American government on WMDs - a list of interesting quotes

[Reuben]

Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.
Dick Cheney
August 26, 2002


Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.
George W. Bush
September 12, 2002

If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world.
Ari Fleischer
December 2, 2002

The president of the United States and the secretary of defense would not assert as plainly and bluntly as they have that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction if it was not true, and if they did not have a solid basis for saying it
Ari Fleischer December 6, 2002
We know for a fact that there are weapons there.
Ari Fleischer
January 9, 2003

Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.
George W. Bush
January 28, 2003

We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more.
Colin Powell
February 5, 2003

We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have.
George W. Bush
February 8, 2003

So has the strategic decision been made to disarm Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction by the leadership in Baghdad? . . . I think our judgment has to be clearly not.
Colin Powell
March 7, 2003

Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.
George W. Bush
March 17, 2003

Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly . . . all this will be made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever duration it takes.
Ari Fleisher
March 21, 2003

There is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction. And . . . as this operation continues, those weapons will be identified, found, along with the people who have produced them and who guard them.
Gen. Tommy Franks
March 22, 2003

I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of weapons of mass destruction.
Defense Policy Board member Kenneth Adelman
March 23, 2003

One of our top objectives is to find and destroy the WMD. There are a number of sites.
Pentagon Spokeswoman Victoria Clark
March 22, 2003

We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
Donald Rumsfeld
March 30, 2003

Obviously the administration intends to publicize all the weapons of mass destruction U.S. forces find -- and there will be plenty.
Neocon scholar Robert Kagan
April 9, 2003

I think you have always heard, and you continue to hear from officials, a measure of high confidence that, indeed, the weapons of mass destruction will be found.
Ari Fleischer
April 10, 2003

We are learning more as we interrogate or have discussions with Iraqi scientists and people within the Iraqi structure, that perhaps he destroyed some, perhaps he dispersed some. And so we will find them.
George W. Bush
April 24, 2003

There are people who in large measure have information that we need . . . so that we can track down the weapons of mass destruction in that country.
Donald Rumsfeld
April 25, 2003

We'll find them. It'll be a matter of time to do so.
George W. Bush
May 3, 2003

I'm absolutely sure that there are weapons of mass destruction there and the evidence will be forthcoming. We're just getting it just now.
Colin Powell
May 4, 2003

We never believed that we'd just tumble over weapons of mass destruction in that country.
Donald Rumsfeld
May 4, 2003

I'm not surprised if we begin to uncover the weapons program of Saddam Hussein -- because he had a weapons program.
George W. Bush
May 6, 2003

U.S. officials never expected that "we were going to open garages and find" weapons of mass destruction.
Condoleeza Rice
May 12, 2003

I just don't know whether it was all destroyed years ago -- I mean, there's no question that there were chemical weapons years ago -- whether they were destroyed right before the war, (or) whether they're still hidden.
Maj. Gen. David Petraeus, Commander 101st Airborne
May 13, 2003

Before the war, there's no doubt in my mind that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical. I expected them to be found. I still expect them to be found.
Gen. Michael Hagee, Commandant of the Marine Corps
May 21, 2003

Given time, given the number of prisoners now that we're interrogating, I'm confident that we're going to find weapons of mass destruction.
Gen. Richard Myers, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff
May 26, 2003

They may have had time to destroy them, and I don't know the answer.
Donald Rumsfeld
May 27, 2003

For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction (as justification for invading Iraq) because it was the one reason everyone could agree on.
Paul Wolfowitz
May 28, 2003

It was a surprise to me then — it remains a surprise to me now — that we have not uncovered weapons, as you say, in some of the forward dispersal sites. Believe me, it's not for lack of trying. We've been to virtually every ammunition supply point between the Kuwaiti border and Baghdad, but they're simply not there.
Lt. Gen. James Conway, 1st Marine Expeditionary Force
May 30, 2003

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

hypocrits! they sure seemed certain they knew where the bombs were, apparently not, though.

Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.
George W. Bush
September 12, 2002

I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of weapons of mass destruction.
Defense Policy Board member Kenneth Adelman
March 23, 2003

We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
Donald Rumsfeld
March 30, 2003

U.S. officials never expected that "we were going to open garages and find" weapons of mass destruction.
Condoleeza Rice
May 12, 2003

It was a surprise to me then — it remains a surprise to me now — that we have not uncovered weapons, as you say, in some of the forward dispersal sites. Believe me, it's not for lack of trying. We've been to virtually every ammunition supply point between the Kuwaiti border and Baghdad, but they're simply not there.
Lt. Gen. James Conway, 1st Marine Expeditionary Force
May 30, 2003

[Zombie]

I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of weapons of mass destruction

and then,

U.S. officials never expected that "we were going to open garages and find" weapons of mass destruction.

ahahahhahhahhhhahhah LOSERS!

[vox]

Hey, where are the sub-human filth (that is, Republicans) who are supposed to be defending the LIES of the LIARS they voted for?

C'mon, you filthy little cowards. Where are you now?

[Totalitarian]

Of course the conquest of Iraq had nothing to do with imaginary "weapons of mass destruction".

Iraq was a threat to the expansionism of the Israeli Reich, and so Zionist Jews in the US government used lies and deceipt to have the regime crushed.

Expect more ridiculous lies in the future, as the middle east rampage continues.

[Ghost Writer]

Although I am not a Republican, I did support this as justification for the war. This subject still troubles me, since we have not found the weapons he created. The fear of a nexus between terrorist organizations and states who develop WMD is still a major concern. I think the left is being too quick to ridicule the administration, at the risk of looking pretty stupid. What else is new? It seems that no matter how many times the left is wrong, they continue to stick their necks out only to flush their credibility and their reputations down the drain. I suspect that this issue is another example of poor predicting, and failed political posturing on the part of the socialists. Here is a link where I continue to support the intelligence community's assessment of Iraq's weapons programs. Not everyone has backed down from the issue. I still believe in the merits of the case. However, if I find out that my government has lied to me again about such an important topic, I will be right there next to the dirty hippies, next time they want to take us to war.

Does anyone remember the left claiming that both Afghanistn and Iraq were to be Vietnam repeats. Why would anyone listen to those who have proven themselves to be inept on military and intelligence matters? Perhaps we already know where these weapons are, but we are presenting the illusion that we are clueless for the purpose of operational security. Operational security, ever heard of it?

links to further examples of my reasoning on this subject: http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...ic=2400&start=0 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=2400&start=0)

(Edited by Ghost Writer at 11:19 am on June 4, 2003)

[vox]

Ghost Writer,

You would do well to keep your mouth shut, for spewing bullshit, as you've done, is a good way to make people think you're just another lying Republican.

Fact is, it isn't even the Left that's saying the Bush Junta lied, it's the actual "intelligence community" itself. The CIA is quite annoyed that Rumsfeld set up his own "intelligence" operation, and let's not forget that even a diehard right-winger like Powell said that he was going to read "bullshit."

Of course, in the UK, Blair is under heavy fire because the parliament knows the data was cooked.

Bush lied.

Rumsfeld lied.

Like Paul Wolfowitz said, it was a "bureaucratic" decision.

The Left was right, and the right, as always and forever, was very, very wrong. Deadly wrong, in fact. People died for Bush's re-election campaign.

How very, very vulgar that is, especially for a "man" who promised to restore "dignity" to the White House. I guess that lying about an affair is undignified, but lying about the invasion and occupation of a soveriegn country is very dignified indeed, huh?

Clinton's lie didn't even achieve orgasm.

Bush's lie killed tens of thousands of people.

Hmm.

[Ghost Writer]

Fact is, nobody has provided ample evidence that the administration lied about this issue. If they did, it would make Lewinsky look like horse-play. However, I think you're wrong, as well as disgraceful.

Look at the way you attack, without having the evidence on your side. Your assertion that the administration is lying is far more subjective than the inteligence assessments that led us into this war. In a sense, you are doing the same thing you are accusing the Bush Administration of doing, which is jumping to conclusions. You are creating your own version of events, which does not concide with reality, and is not known to be 100% accurate at the present time.

Instead of leading us to war in Iraq, you are asking us to war amongst ourselves, and crucify the system. Which is worse. At least the war in Iraq was in our national interest. Another scandal would only further the left's agenda to further weaken the institutions of the great nation of ours.

The difference between you and I remains the fact that I do not wish for our government to fail, but you do. You would like nothing more than further embarassment of those agencies mandated to protect us. This would weaken our country, and its moral, leaving America open to manipulation by liberal elements such as yourself. Unfortunately for you, most of the American people do not even care if they were lied to. They believe the war was justified regardless. I happen to be a minority, since I understand many of the implications associated with such a scandal.

Only time will tell. Both you and I will have to see how this one plays out. My position, for the moment is clarified. If I am wrong, I will adjust my attitude and perception. I am convinced that you will not. This is yet another difference between us.

[vox]

Ghost,

Oh, you very sorry thing, you.

I present verifiable fact, and all you can do is talk about what "I," supposedly, want.

Donald Rumsfled said, "We know where they are. They are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad."

Apparently, they weren't.

There are many articles that now say the intelligence was "cooked" by the Bush administration. They are so prevelant that I really shouldn't have to link them. They are everywhere.

Bush lied.

Rumsfeld lied.

Powell lied.

Perle lied.

Wolfowitz lied.

There is nothing to suggest that anything they claimed was true. Not one damned thing.

Even the trailers that Bush claimed were in and of themselves WMD, which is, of course, a very foolish thing to say, didn't have a trace of biological evidence on them to support that claim. Hell, they didn't even have the proper equipment to make such things!!!

And yet here you are, not even trying to argue the facts, but simply saying that I want things to go a certain way, as if my personal feelings have anything at all to do with the verifiable facts that we know.

You are, of course, very wrong in everything that you say. Mostly, what you wrote is just an unfounded attack on the Left, for you don't provide anything in the way of evidence, but rather offer only prejudice.

You're beaten. Give up now.

vox


(Edited by vox at 7:28 am on June 4, 2003)

[El Che]

Glad you`re back vox!

[Ghost Writer]

In a related story, the CIA states that Al Qaeda is prepared to use chemical, biological, and even nuclear weapons.

source: Washington Times (http://washingtontimes.com/national/20030603-122052-2698r.htm)

Also Deputy Secretary of State, Paul Wolfowitz, says the United States is still only in the earlier stages of hunting for WMD.

source: EastDay, a Chinese publication (http://english.eastday.com/epublish/gb/paper1/923/class000100003/hwz139775.htm)

G8 members acknowledge the growing danger associated with the proliferation of WMD.

source: U.S. State Department Press Release (http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/WO0306/S00051.htm)

(Edited by Ghost Writer at 1:05 pm on June 4, 2003)

[vox]

Thanks, El Che. :-)

But I'm only here part-time, if that. I've no illusions about creating some sort of community, you know? This is just the Net. Better for info than relationships.

[vox]

In a related story...

Related? Related to what, exactly. Please be specific.

It's not related to Iraq, of course, and that's what this thread is about. Hell, bin Laden called Hussiend an infidel. Somehow, small-minded right-wing asshole shitheads (and that's the polite term for them) transformed that into Iraq supporting terrorism, for which, once again, there was no credible evidence.

Now Ghost wants to convince us that terrorists, fueled by the invasion and occupation of Iraq by a power mad imperialist nation, have something to do with the US administration's lies about WMD????

How very bizarre and pathetic the right-wingers have become.

It's very obvious that Ghost's "story," which comes from a radical and discredited paper, has absolutely nothing at all to do with Republican LIES.

Obfuscation won't work with me, Ghost.

Once again, I'm right, you're wrong. And that will always be the case.

vox (is just better than you)

[Loknar]

vox

Saddam did aid Al-Queda in the past. Recently it was discovered that Al-Queda was attempting to establish a germ warfare program in Iraq and Saddam's Unit 999 are experts in trainning people how to highjack airplanes with out guns. And remember al-queda isnt the only terrorist network around. Iraq is known to support some, Iraq sends checks to the famlies of suicide bombers. What exactly do you need? A tax retrn?

Also people, do you think it is a wise decision for Bush to attack Iraq under the pre-tense that they possesed Chemical weapons if they didnt? It would be a political suicide. He likely destroyed them, remember he had months to do so.

[vox]

Loknar wrote:

"What exactly do you need?"

A link to a reputable source would be nice.

[Loknar]

Quote: from vox on 1:32 pm on June 4, 2003
Loknar wrote:

"What exactly do you need?"

A link to a reputable source would be nice.

I suppose if I showed you an anti-Saddam site you would agree with it right?

[Loknar]

http://www.iraqinews.com/specials.shtml

[ComradeRiley]

Can anyone believe that ghost is backing up the Bush admin????

There are no WMD!!!

[Loknar]

Saddam is the ultimate master of deception, he is even fooling all of you.


Anyway, he used them in the past, why would he get rid of them?

[HankMorgan]

Saddam Hussein was also in Iraq and so far he hasn't been found. Is anyone prepared to say there was no Saddam?

Keep your shorts on.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

yes hank, but claims were made that we knew exactly where the WMD were, we knew that they were being produced, we knew that they were there. We found none. The war ended like a month ago and we were able to find the oil, but no WMD, what was the point of the war again?

[Ghost Writer]

The Dod Policy Chief addresses many of the liberal media lies that have been designed to attack the intelligence community. Douglas Faith gets back to the fundamental sources used in the assessment of Iraq's weapons capability, and points to the fact that there was no change in the intelligence data from the Clinton Administration to the Bush Administration. This point refutes the claim made by mad dog liberals, like Vox here, that the data was cooked up by the Bush Administration.

source: American Forces Press Service (http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jun2003/n06042003_200306041.html)

Many will remember that Clinton also pointed to Iraq's WMD when he attack Iraq in 1998. If the intelligence used for the latest war was cooked by the current administration, they why is the intelligence consistent with information known by the previous administration. The rabid communists never think about these things. All they do is attack people with no logical basis to support the conclusions the draw. That is why liberalism is a mental disorder.

[James]

All they do is attack people with no logical basis to support the conclusions the draw

says he...

[El Che]

"Bureaucratic reasons" (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=25&topic=913)

Such an extraordinary and revealing admission. Sometimes the truth just slips into your mouth uninvited.

(Edited by El Che at 1:36 pm on June 6, 2003)

[Loknar]

I admit that even though I support and do continue to support the war I dont think that there are WMD's. I just dont care frankly because in the lon run less people have died in this entire war than in 1 usual year in Saddams Iraq (Amnesty international estimates 40,000 disappeared each year)

[James]

You can't tell from such a small period of time. Its better to look at Afghanistan... not good at all :(

Law and order has gone completly, and American hypocracy is going to lead to the Taliban coming back. Again.
etc etc etc

[Loknar]

James. We couldnt hold that country together even if we tried. There are too mant tribes and they dont like us. They want it to end up that way then let it.


Isnt the Afghan government in power in other places aside from Kabul?

[James]

We couldnt hold that country together even if we tried.


BLAIR PROMISED the afghan people that they would not be abandoned. That they certainly have :(

You don't want to hold it together?
WTF?!?!?!
Stalbility = less terrorists and september 11's
It would be your top priority if this war was really about getting rid of terrorism and the causes of terrorism.

There are too mant tribes and they dont like us.

Firstly, yes there are many. They are encouraged as well with American dollars.

Some do, some don't like "us".

It shouldn't be ran like a US city in the 20s though.

They want it to end up that way then let it.

Do you think the afghan people have much of a choice?
Do you think they have any power to improve their situation?
Do you think that the afghans "want" it to "end up that way"?
Is it in "our" interest to let it all fall apart?

Honestly, i didn't realize your grasp on reality was so poor.

Isnt the Afghan government in power in other places aside from Kabul?

No.
The police have gone along time without being paid (i think this was being changed) so they lived off bribes and protection money.

Do you think Afgahnistans roads are safe?

[kingbee]

Quote: from HankMorgan on 4:19 pm on June 4, 2003
Saddam Hussein was also in Iraq and so far he hasn't been found. Is anyone prepared to say there was no Saddam?

Keep your shorts on.


right. dunno if you are being sarcastic, but

if you are, then sorry, im not thinking straight.

if not, then, we have seen saddam on tv many times, he has been supported by the us, and im sure there is more chance of him being around than the WMD (words of mass deception). its just that point has been made many times n its pissing me off now.


Quote: from Ghost Writer on 11:37 am on June 4, 2003
F At least the war in Iraq was in our national interest.

as dulles said, as a nation, we dont have friends, only national interests.

[Loknar]

BLAIR PROMISED the afghan people that they would not be abandoned. That they certainly have :(

It was a lie. They need to say it at that time. I wouldnt believe it.

You don't want to hold it together?
WTF?!?!?!

I never said that. I do want it to be held together

Honestly, i didn't realize your grasp on reality was so poor.

ok, wrong.

No.
The police have gone along time without being paid (i think this was being changed) so they lived off bribes and protection money.

The Coalition military is conducting operations in different areas though.

Do you think Afgahnistans roads are safe?

No I dont. I hope Bush wakes up.

(Edited by Loknar at 11:03 pm on June 8, 2003)

[Vinny Rafarino]

I actually believe I have lost severl IQ points from simply reading the posts of Ghost writer, loknar and Hank.

Especially ghost writer. Your irrelevent babblings made me begin to drool and rock back and forth. You are truly an imbecile. You're perfect for politics.

[Loknar]

So do you have anything useful to add COMRAD?

[Vinny Rafarino]

What is your pussy still hurting Loknar?

Anyone with even one fourth of a brain knows the US fucked up. Get over it.

[Anonymous]

There is no way RAF can be a commie. Come on you gotta be Stormin Normin's alter ego trying to make communism look bad. Come clean Norman, we all had a good laugh. Now come on out.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Oh no....you caught me. I guess I can now go back to the desert and slaughter some more brown people in the name of "freedom"....Oh well

[Loknar]

RAF,
Yes the US is fucked up. Do you have anything useful to add though? If not then shut up. You really must feel high and mighty acting like a spoiled brat.