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funlandatthebeach
10th November 2008, 05:20
are there any anarchist groups in existance like The Revolutionary Insurrectionary Army of Ukraine or the Black Guards or something. I know of different communistic revolutionary groups like the Red Brigade or the RAF, but does anarchism have anything like this?

JRPS-12
10th November 2008, 06:39
The EZLN.. they use the red star but they arent Stalinist.. Anarchists as far as I know.. No centralized form of government..

#FF0000
10th November 2008, 06:43
The EZLN is very libertarian, but not Anarchist.

Junius
10th November 2008, 06:55
does anarchism have anything like this?

Yes, there are a number of terroristic anarchist groups in Greece for example.

Os Cangaceiros
10th November 2008, 06:57
The Red Army Faction and similar groups are nothing to emulate, in my opinion.

F9
10th November 2008, 13:32
Yes, there are a number of terroristic anarchist groups in Greece for example.

No, there arent any there!People claiming Anarchism when they attack police and destroying roads, yeah, but an Anarchist terrorist organization there isnt!

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Black Sheep
10th November 2008, 13:53
Yes, there are a number of terroristic anarchist groups in Greece for example.
Nah,they are just anti-authoritarian kiddos.there was a marxistic terrorist group though that got arrested recently.The infamous "November 17th"

F9
10th November 2008, 13:57
Nah,they are just anti-authoritarian kiddos.there was a marxistic terrorist group though that got arrested recently.The infamous "November 17th"

:crying:Just a week away!

Black Sheep
10th November 2008, 14:00
http://www.revleft.com/vb/../revleft/smilies2/crying.gifJust a week away!
Why the tears comrade? Rejoice and get inspired by the uprising against imperialism and its junta face on that glorious day!:)

F9
10th November 2008, 14:03
Why the tears comrade? Rejoice and get inspired by the uprising against imperialism and its junta face on that glorious day!:)

I want to be there next week, thats the tears!:crying:

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Junius
10th November 2008, 14:07
No, there arent any there!People claiming Anarchism when they attack police and destroying roads, yeah, but an Anarchist terrorist organization there isnt!

Fuserg9:star:

What about the Thieves in Black? Anti-State Justice? Anarchist Attack Group? You don't consider them anarchists or you don't consider them terrorists? What about Revolutionary Struggle which fired a rocket at the American Embassy? (I understand this group is Marxist)

Charles Xavier
10th November 2008, 17:06
Anarchists are primarily a high school debating society.

Pirate turtle the 11th
10th November 2008, 17:40
Anarchists are primarily a high school debating society.

Go lick a plug socket.

F9
10th November 2008, 17:51
What about the Thieves in Black? Anti-State Justice? Anarchist Attack Group? You don't consider them anarchists or you don't consider them terrorists? What about Revolutionary Struggle which fired a rocket at the American Embassy? (I understand this group is Marxist)

I dont know them tbh!From where do you know those?


Anarchists are primarily a high school debating society.

Shut up!!!You become really boring, and i have said it to you before!
Plus i gave you positive rep and that wasnt my intention :mad:

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bcbm
11th November 2008, 01:10
I know of different communistic revolutionary groups like the Red Brigade or the RAF, but does anarchism have anything like this?

RAF members came from a range of ideological backgrounds, some not having any real ideological background at all. The June 2 Movement in Germany was an anarchist equivalent and there were also Rote Zora and the Revolutionary Cells. Then there were the Angry Brigades in the UK and Direct Action in Canada. Italy in 77/78 had a number of armed anarchist groups, named or not, and there was a lot of armed streetfighting occurring autonomously. Following the Civil War in Spain some guerrillas remained actives in the mountains and later in the Basque region there were some armed anarchist off-shoots of ETA.


Nah,they are just anti-authoritarian kiddos.

Uh, one of the anarchist bank robbers who was caught was in his 30s. Others who have been arrested are older as well. Hardly "kiddos," although being young isn't an automatic discrediting of your ideas anyway.


there was a marxistic terrorist group though that got arrested recently.The infamous "November 17th"

Recently? It was half a decade ago.


I dont know them tbh!From where do you know those?

They're groups that have claimed various bombings and other actions.

Forward Union
11th November 2008, 01:13
The RIAU was a hierachical millitary body with a cultural department, press department and over 100,000 soldiers.

So no. We don't have anything like that now ?!? and how can you compare it to the RAF!

F9
11th November 2008, 13:01
Uh, one of the anarchist bank robbers who was caught was in his 30s. Others who have been arrested are older as well. Hardly "kiddos," although being young isn't an automatic discrediting of your ideas anyway.

Bulk sheep isnt talking about those people definitely!There are a lot of self-claiming Anarchists in greece but the only thing they do is come out when there is action against police, when there is a beating upcoming etc.They see Anarchism as the way to wear a hood and beat other people, nothing more.Those people are who BS characterized kiddos!
For the people that stole from supermarkets they are real Anarchists, not even near as "kiddos" and they have a great contribution in the movement!Bulk sheep i dont think has any problem with them , or call them "kiddos".



Recently? It was half a decade ago.

Yeah, there group has benn arrested a long time ago, but less than 10 years is not so long time!




They're groups that have claimed various bombings and other actions.

Small groups that take responsibility of bombs usually dont even appear anywhere in the political stand, so they hardly are Anarchists.Probably they are "members" of the "Anarchists" i said above!

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Bilan
11th November 2008, 13:11
are there any anarchist groups in existance like The Revolutionary Insurrectionary Army of Ukraine or the Black Guards or something. I know of different communistic revolutionary groups like the Red Brigade or the RAF, but does anarchism have anything like this?

No, it doesn't. Not now, anyway. What purpose would that serve in the current climate?
It has more important things like syndicalist unions (e.g. IWA), organizations (e.g. Liberty and Solidarity) and Federations (e.g. IAF)

bcbm
11th November 2008, 13:12
I think you're drawing lines that don't really exist. What you suggest is the case certainly was not my experience in Greece and not the impression I got from the comrades I spoke to.

F9
11th November 2008, 13:17
I think you're drawing lines that don't really exist. What you suggest is the case certainly was not my experience in Greece and not the impression I got from the comrades I spoke to.

I can be wrong, but this is what i know from the situation!Maybe bulk sheep can help a little more cause he is actually there!

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Black Sheep
11th November 2008, 15:06
those people are who BS characterized kiddos!That's right.


What you suggest is the case certainly was not my experience in Greece and not the impression I got from the comrades I spoke to.Well then that depends to each other's experience of course.I am not the Pope.
But the anarcho-kiddo disease is quite widespread.Like an antifascist+antipolice+antijail movement,and that's it.

Of course there are comrades too in the self-proclaimed anarchists, and i hope they are the majority, which i strongly doubt.

Charles Xavier
12th November 2008, 05:43
I'm the pope.

F9
12th November 2008, 12:30
I'm the pope.

You are a moron and stop trolling whenever you find a thread for Anarchism!:mad:

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