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Ricardito1941
8th November 2008, 10:58
When I make it known that I am a Catholic first and Communist second and not necessarily in that order by the way, only grew up that way. One must study Communism as one must study Catholicism to fully appreciate both. I look to Latin America and the Liberation Theology that is springing forth in the mountains along with the cocoa plants. I think of Jesus in the temple upsetting the tables of the usury agents that plied their trade and I say Jesus was no capitalist. If he was at all political he was socialistic in his teachings. There have been sins committed in the name religion as well as in communism because both are human bound and subject to errors but not condemnation in my estimation. Both beliefs give me strength to survive in the poverty of capitalism.

Random Precision
8th November 2008, 19:10
Welcome to the forum. :)

Liberation theology is all well and good... one of my personal heroes is Archbishop Romero. However, you'll run into problems being a "Catholic first and a communist second." For example, if there were a socialist revolution in your country, and the Catholic hierarchy denounced it and sided with the capitalists (as they did in Spain and nearly everywhere else), you would be forced to choose between the Church and the revolution. That's a problem many at this board will have with your position, one that does not extend to unaffiliated Christians or members of other faiths.

Die Neue Zeit
8th November 2008, 19:20
I dunno how the Roman Catholic Church can actually go to extremes such as this to prove its "worth":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shoes_of_the_Fisherman

Bud Struggle
8th November 2008, 19:52
You might like Hardrian the Seventh--another fictunal tale of a make believe Pope. This one (while not actually stating it,) is rather something of a Communist. He even sells off all the Vatican treasures to give the money to the poor.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hadrian-Wordsworth-Classics-Frederick-William/dp/1853260819

Dust Bunnies
10th November 2008, 00:27
I will first of all say welcome. (and if you were born in 1941 as I may assume by your username then it is great that older people are joining us, to prove that Communism is just not some teenage rebellion.)

I believe that Jesus, if existed as it is told in the bible, was no doubt at least a slight leftist. (Social Democrat?)

The Christian community here is small however, and filled with many many atheists.

Welcome!

To put something to add to the thread, it can be a conflict that the Pope is more important than the revolution. Why wait for the second coming when we can make heaven on Earth right?

Killfacer
10th November 2008, 15:25
He wasn't a leftist. Why do people say that?

He thought he was the son of god, he led a group of deranged cultist and pretended he could peform miracles. Freak.

Kwisatz Haderach
10th November 2008, 21:29
He thought he was the son of god, he led a group of deranged cultist and pretended he could peform miracles. Freak.
No. If the Bible is true, Jesus really was the Son of God and really did perform those miracles. If the Bible is not true, then we don't know anything about the life of Jesus at all, so any speculation about what he did or believed is pointless.

Faction2008
10th November 2008, 21:43
Jesus sounded like a pussy.

LordMortis
11th November 2008, 18:31
Jesus sounded like a pussy.
Right, because willingly having nails driven through your wrists and feet, you know that any wuss could do that. And be beaten with a cat-o-nine-tails. And walk with a crown of thorns around their forehead. What a pussy he was.

Killfacer
11th November 2008, 18:40
Right, because willingly having nails driven through your wrists and feet, you know that any wuss could do that. And be beaten with a cat-o-nine-tails. And walk with a crown of thorns around their forehead. What a pussy he was.


He's the son of god, bet he didn't even feel it. Pussy.

Faction2008
11th November 2008, 21:57
Right, because willingly having nails driven through your wrists and feet, you know that any wuss could do that. And be beaten with a cat-o-nine-tails. And walk with a crown of thorns around their forehead. What a pussy he was.
He just let them do it, that's a pussy to me. What a pussy.

Dust Bunnies
11th November 2008, 23:15
I can see the new shooter...

Crucifixion

The Romans try to nail Jesus but instead he pulls out an M16 and he has to kill legions of Romans...

Jesus Weekly gives it 5 out of 5 stars

Sarah Palin approves!