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RedSonRising
8th November 2008, 07:44
I think the flexibility and the wide range of Socialist theories that have sprung from even before Marx and beyond are something to be valued, but revolutionaries tend to suscribe to a very particular creed in order to satisfy the goals of the working class. This dedication is important, but I have noted that the differences among those who describe themselves as Social Democrats, Socialists, Communists, and Anarchists, as well as everything in-between, create massive rifts that prevent certain individuals who beleive in class struggle and democratic equality from uniting. Referencing the Spanish Civil War, the different creeds of the Soviet and more moderate Socialist segments of the Republican army led to an alienation and breakdown of these different "parties" per se. Does it concern any of you that these differences are preventing effective action from revolutionary leftists in the world, particularly in the US?

I Personally beleive that Democratic Socialism will establish a base for the people to dictate the market in such a way that Communism, as predicted, will develop the way it should, instead of impracticle centralized state planning, and that by consequence society will develop into an Anarchist civilization with its roots in the freedoms and principles of equality and self-determination . If Marx was wrong, which to some may be blasphemous, and the development of the capitalist market has disallowed for a full evolution to Anarcho-Communism, democratic socialism is at least framework flexible enough to dictate the peoples wants in both the political and economic structure of classess society, even if the ambient utopia possible does not evolve from Communism.

redguard2009
8th November 2008, 07:56
Sadly, the main point of departure between us is that we have very different opinions of how things should happen. While we obviously do have a great deal in common, this is usually sidelined by the fact that each of us believes the other is incapable of attaining that common goal through their beliefs and course of action. For instance, as a Maoist, I do not believe that the Trotskyist course of action is capable of achieving anything, which hypothetically imposes a limit on how much I am willing to co-operate with a Trotskyist -- afterall, if I do not believe he or she is capable of attaining our goal, why would I ally myself with him? It would serve only to hold me back from what I believe is the correct path.

I was initially a very anti-sectarian person who believed that leftists should unite for the fight, but I've since come to realization that our differences, as relatively minor as they may be, are a solid wall preventing real action from taking place. I have thus adopted the principle that the only way for the movement to succeed is for every opposing revolutionary movement to be comprehensively defeated and abolished so that my particular course of action can continue without interference from the left.

In short, I no longer care if anybody believes my ideology and I will succeed. I will continue to push forward independantly, and defeat anything that attempts to stand in my way. I'm also feeling a tad antagonistic at the moment -- perhaps tomorrow I will be more open to co-operation. I'm a bit inconsistent like that.

Edit: Perhaps this sounds a little hostile to others, and some may interpret my statement as a willingness to openly attack other leftists. So I will state this disclaimer: I do not want to attack other leftists. I want to attain my goals, and not be held back by dogmatism or sectarianism. Stay out of my way and I'll stay out of yours, and history will decide which one of us followed the correct line of thinking.