Marijuana became "class related"

[Black Sheep]

and thus it was banned.
What does 'class related" mean? And why was it banned? I don't get it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRpjXsgqJZw&feature=related

[duffers]

This is rather baffling from Chomsky; weed is notable for inducing mental health issues, namely psychosis and schizophrenia.

Whatever the reasons for it being banned, it is a dangerous substance, and more so than cigarettes and alcohol, as it is commonly compared to.

Drugs, of all kinds, are the enemy of the working class.

[#FF0000]

This is rather baffling from Chomsky; weed is notable for inducing mental health issues, namely psychosis and schizophrenia.

Whatever the reasons for it being banned, it is a dangerous substance, and more so than cigarettes and alcohol, as it is commonly compared to.

Drugs, of all kinds, are the enemy of the working class.

That isn't true. There are no reputable studies that show that is true. There is a longitudinal study going on in Australia on the subject, but they have only been establish a weak link between marijuana and abnormal brain development.

And cigarettes and alcohol are both much, much, much more dangerous and immediately damaging.

Still, I think it's wise to avoid drugs anyway. They're just a mode of control, giving the State a way to imprison surplus population and make a profit off of them.

[tehpevis]

Alcohol: Addictive, causes brain damage
Cigarettes: VERY Addictive, can cause Cancer (unless it is pure tobacco and not mass-manufactured Cigarettes)
Marijuana: Not addictive, makes people calm down & become Hungry. It's not really bad, it's just useless.

[#FF0000]

Alcohol: Addictive, causes brain damage
Cigarettes: VERY Addictive, can cause Cancer (unless it is pure tobacco and not mass-manufactured Cigarettes)
Marijuana: Not addictive, makes people calm down & become Hungry. It's not really bad, it's just useless.

To say it isn't addictive is sort of misleading. It is psychologically addictive. Though, the people who are addicted the marijuana are the same people who get addicted to chocolate, or something like that. They don't really need rehab for it. Just a damn hobby.

[Charles Xavier]

Marijuana is illegal in Mexico too... Chomsky himself is a conspiracy theory nutbar.

[cop an Attitude]

This is rather baffling from Chomsky; weed is notable for inducing mental health issues, namely psychosis and schizophrenia.

Whatever the reasons for it being banned, it is a dangerous substance, and more so than cigarettes and alcohol, as it is commonly compared to.

Drugs, of all kinds, are the enemy of the working class.

I have never seen somebody die from marijuana posioning, like alcohol. Pot is pretty harmless but potheads are another story. I smoke, i admit it, but I dont do it all to often. I have been cutting down and only really use it to unwind. people who smoke everyday (I use to be one of them) normally dumb down after a while. you get a burnout feeling and really cant think correctly. Like when I smoke I may have some cool ideas but I dont remember them or I can't really convey them all that well. Its really just a disraction when used that much, a lot like video games and TV, good in moderation. for those who smoke when their bored, read instead, thats what I have been doing. Weed is defently a lot less harmful than achohal though. Its easy to stop smokeing, you regain control of your action for the most part, very little long term dangers, and you can't die/throw up from it. For cigarettes, very highly addictive and extreamly hard to quit. Weed is defently the lesser of the 3 but still something that should be seen as "harmless".

[Os Cangaceiros]

Marijuana is a class issue, in at least one way. Quite a few of the drug laws in place originated in racist/Nativist beliefs...specifically, one of the opium laws in San Francisco was enacted to prevent "Asians from dragging white women into dens of despair". Mexicans were also targeted as a corrupting element that was enslaving children with marijuana. :rolleyes:

If you want a devastating assault on the drug laws, I'd recommend "Why Our Drug Laws Have Failed: A Judicial Indictment of the War on Drugs", by Jim Gray (a former judge and prosecuter). It was originally published around 2000, I believe, but it's still as relevant as ever.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Marijuana is illegal in Mexico too... Chomsky himself is a conspiracy theory nutbar.

And that may soon change...

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=1114699a-22aa-4d16-b14f-2ba74f2a1267

[cop an Attitude]

Marijuana is illegal in Mexico too... Chomsky himself is a conspiracy theory nutbar.

well then why is such a minor substance illegal. I have heard that mexican theroy time and time again.

[BobKKKindle$]

From from being dangerous, marijuana is now being used to diminish the effects of some illnesses such as multiple sclerosis because the drug has such as a calming effect on the body. There is no evidence to show that marijuana is more dangerous than tobacco or any other drug, and is certainly not physically addictive*. This is not just true of marijuana but also of a range of other drugs which are currently banned by the oppressive bourgeois state, including MDMA, and communists should fight against the deluge of lies which is currently being spread in the bourgeois education system concerning the effects and allegedely addictive properties of recreational drugs.

As Emma Goldman might have said, if it doesn't have drugs, it's not my revolution.

*However, even if it was shown that marijuana is highly dangerous, there would still be no justification for banning it, as long as the harms are limited to the person who is taking the drug and others are not harmed as a result.

[#FF0000]

Marijuana is illegal in Mexico too... Chomsky himself is a conspiracy theory nutbar.

So? I'm pretty sure leprosy isn't especially common in Mexico either, but that doesn't stop Lou Dobbs from using it as a reason to call for closing the border.

[Labor Shall Rule]

This is rather baffling from Chomsky; weed is notable for inducing mental health issues, namely psychosis and schizophrenia.

Whatever the reasons for it being banned, it is a dangerous substance, and more so than cigarettes and alcohol, as it is commonly compared to.

Drugs, of all kinds, are the enemy of the working class.

Are you serious?

[black magick hustla]

man i dont get the obsession with the left with marihuana. i mean i also love the ganja *weed* 420 *smokes blunt* shit but i think its pretty much a non-issue.

you people are so stereotypical! :):)

[Os Cangaceiros]

Well, it's an issue in certain areas...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7625195.stm

[black magick hustla]

Well it is in that sense. But I always thought it was a strange thing to be passionate about, and always had the feeling that a lot of folks felt strongly for the legalziation of marihuana because they like it, and then they looked for the arguments to back their position. Not the other way around

[Black Sheep]

Nobody has addressed the 'related to class' part though.

[bobroberts]

Marijuana is cheap, effective, and safe, which makes it popular among the lower classes. In the USA, this has translated to using drug laws which have been used to oppress and disenfranchise various groups that those in power want to keep under their thumb.

[spice756]

Marijuana is a class issue, in at least one way. Quite a few of the drug laws in place originated in racist/Nativist beliefs...specifically, one of the opium laws in San Francisco was enacted to prevent "Asians from dragging white women into dens of despair". Mexicans were also targeted as a corrupting element that was enslaving children with marijuana.



It simple the US was founded on conservative and not christians but under the saying god we trust .The US has never been separation of church and state.In the US eyes separation of church and state or secularity are evile.

Do to the conservative religiuse dogma in the US past to present the US has been apose to liberal views like homosexuality,abortion ,stem cell research,divorce ,single moms ,rights to femels ,sex out of the wedlock, common law living,60's sex revolution ,smoking and drinking ,sex and drugs ,atheists ,agnostic,prostitution so on.

To them this is work of the devil and a immoral society.

Now this is the main reason drugs are illegal.Now there are lots and lots of money on the war on drugs .




If you want a devastating assault on the drug laws, I'd recommend "Why Our Drug Laws Have Failed: A Judicial Indictment of the War on Drugs", by Jim Gray (a former judge and prosecuter). It was originally published around 2000, I believe, but it's still as relevant as ever.


You cannot control society the conservative religiuse dogma thinks you can control society and you cannot.Look at the drug war or sex .People will do it even if it is illegal.

[synthesis]

Marijuana is a class issue in the sense that the quality of your lawyer determines the extent to which you'll be processed by the legal system.

It was originally banned because of racial prejudice (the use of the term "marijuana" was promoted by the plant's opponents to associate it with "dangerous Mexicans"), a capitalist monopoly (many industries felt threatened by hemp) and puritan morality.


weed is notable for inducing mental health issues, namely psychosis and schizophrenia.

Untrue, based on both statistics and the personal experiences of most weed smokers - they have only been proven to be correlated, which makes it more likely that psychotics and schizophrenics self-medicate with marijuana rather than marijuana inducing these conditions.

[Sendo]

Alcohol: Addictive, causes brain damage
Cigarettes: VERY Addictive, can cause Cancer (unless it is pure tobacco and not mass-manufactured Cigarettes)
Marijuana: Not addictive, makes people calm down & become Hungry. It's not really bad, it's just useless.

Alcohol isn't physically addictive for most people. A lot of people build up tolerance, but it's addictiveness is like that of weed, purely psychological. Alcohol leaves the body too quickly for any addictions to take place. Hangovers are a mixture of things, one of them is alcohol withdrawal. In some hours it's like you never had it in your body.

It was originally banned in Mexico, because the govt wanted to demonize the Zapata-era revolutionaries. The US picked up on this and used to oppress native and migrant Mexicans North of the Rio Grande. Like most drugs, its prosecution is mostly against the underclass and the threat of being told on is enough to keep workers in line. Well originally, at least.

[duffers]

I'm actually quite worried people are purporting weed is harmless, and using non relevant comparisons to alcohol. Having already stated the damage caused by the drug is mental, as opposed to physical, how can you even compare long term mental health to instant organ damage?

Whilst still up for debate what draws the user to the drug, there is a correlation with anxiety, psychosis and depression with the intake of cannabis. That is indisputable fact. Not only that, but studies show due to heavy usage, heart attacks, strokes and abnormalities in the brain form, as well as lung disease, which effects cannabis user 24 years quicker than cigarette smokers.

The mention of cannabis for medicinal purposes is also fruitless, it's hardly being used in the same manner a pothead induces it, come on, this is elementary stuff. Not to mention, not all hospitals around the world endorse it, nor it is common treatment with studies still debating its use and effectiveness.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Whilst still up for debate what draws the user to the drug, there is a correlation with anxiety, psychosis and depression with the intake of cannabis. That is indisputable fact.

No, it's quite disputable, in terms of the cause and effect relationship.

Here's an article from a medical journal of Pharmacology:

http://www.safeaccessnow.org/downloads/long%20term%20cannabis%20effects.pdf


Not only that, but studies show due to heavy usage, heart attacks, strokes and abnormalities in the brain form, as well as lung disease, which effects cannabis user 24 years quicker than cigarette smokers.

Care to give a source for this?

Because this study tells a different story, in terms of lung cancer:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729_pf.html


The mention of cannabis for medicinal purposes is also fruitless, it's hardly being used in the same manner a pothead induces it, come on, this is elementary stuff.

That's simply factually incorrect.

Doctors in California, for example, have been prescribing marijuana in it's smokable form for some time now.

[ellipsis]

Criminalizing Marijuana serves only to oppress the working class who encounter the police much more often than the bourgeoisie and often can't buy expensive lawyers to keep out of jail.

[duffers]

I cannot posts links yet, as I'm a new user. They both come from the British Medical Journal however.

I can tell you however, all your material is out of date; the studies I have are from 2007 and 2008, respectively, and tell a different story.

The drug medicinally, is suggested to be induced either by tincture, consumption by eating, or vapourisers. I'm afraid little to no one sits around, toking from a spliff, contrary to the myth.

[which doctor]

Alcohol isn't physically addictive for most people. A lot of people build up tolerance, but it's addictiveness is like that of weed, purely psychological. Alcohol leaves the body too quickly for any addictions to take place. Hangovers are a mixture of things, one of them is alcohol withdrawal. In some hours it's like you never had it in your body.
The addictiveness of alcohol is not like weed. The general scientific consensus is that Alcohol can and is physically addicting. Of course not everyone who drinks has an alcohol addiction, and there are a lot of reasons for this, principally frequency, reasons for drinking, and genetics.



Alcohol leaves the body too quickly for any addictions to take place.
I don't think that even really has much of a bearing on how addictions begin. Alcohol is actually metabolized rather quickly when comparing it to other drugs. For instance, the half-life of cocaine in the body is roughly only an hour, yet cocaine remains a very addictive drug.


Hangovers are a mixture of things, one of them is alcohol withdrawal. In some hours it's like you never had it in your body.
In some hours? Clearly you've never been that drunk before, because I've still felt hungover for over a day since I drank.

[tehpevis]

I cannot posts links yet, as I'm a new user. They both come from the British Medical Journal however.

I can tell you however, all your material is out of date; the studies I have are from 2007 and 2008, respectively, and tell a different story.

The drug medicinally, is suggested to be induced either by tincture, consumption by eating, or vapourisers. I'm afraid little to no one sits around, toking from a spliff, contrary to the myth.
Quote, down in the botom-right corner of the Post

[Os Cangaceiros]

I cannot posts links yet, as I'm a new user. They both come from the British Medical Journal however.

I can tell you however, all your material is out of date; the studies I have are from 2007 and 2008, respectively, and tell a different story.

The drug medicinally, is suggested to be induced either by tincture, consumption by eating, or vapourisers. I'm afraid little to no one sits around, toking from a spliff, contrary to the myth.

And I can post more recent links and studies within the last year or two, if that's more to your liking.

And I don't have to prove that there isn't a link between marijuana use and psychosis/schizophrenia/lung diseases, or whatever else...all I have to do is prove that it's not firmly established.

I don't know what "myth" you're referring to, either, as my father smoked marijuana with pipe for his back pain, after multiple spinal and neck surgeries.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nSdV6GIjbQ

[Agrippa]

Marijuana has different effects on different people. I've found it very useful in treating my attention deficit disorder. In general, if you're a skittish, overly-energetic, easily-distracted, jittery person, you'll probably benefit from smoking cannabis. If you're a slow, sluggish, unmotivated person, it will probably make you slower, more sluggish, and more unmotivated.

Yes, from my personal experience I can say that it is addictive, not just psychologically, but chemically, but it's addiction is mild - about the same as caffeine or sugar.

Smoking anything damages the respiratory system, however, smoking is not the only way to ingest marijuana.

Cannabis prohibiton is obviously a "working class" issue as in the u.s. it is one of many legal excuses for the police to incarcerate working-class people (particularly working class people of color) so their labor can be exploited by the prison industry. In the u.s., cannabis prohibition was created to criminalize and socially stigmatize black, Chicano, and Puerto Rican jazz culture which was becoming a threat to capitalist stability. (It's also been suggested that it was the nylon industry attempting to elliminate competition but I find that explaination highly suspect) The same is true of Mexico and Jamaica in regards to similar social movements. To my knowledge, the u.s., Mexico, and Jamaica were the forerunners in marijuana prohibition.

However, smoking marijuana is far from "revolutionary", "working class", etc. as, like coffee, alcohol, tobacco, etc. it is something members of all social and economic classes participate in. These days, cannabis remains illegal, not because "the establishment" doesn't want people smoking pot, but because by being an illicit substance, it maximizes the profit among certain sectors of the bourgeoisie. ("the black market", organized crime, corrupt DEA officials, etc.) It allows for a total monopolization of crop-flow and cash-flow and keeps other sectors from stealing some of the profits (lack of taxation, etc.)

It's something people have probably smoked for tens of thousands of years and will probably continue to smoke for tens of thousands of years. Like tobacco, alcohol, coffee, opium, coca, psilocybin, kava root, etc. it should be enjoyed in moderation.

[spice756]

I'm actually quite worried people are purporting weed is harmless, and using non relevant comparisons to alcohol. Having already stated the damage caused by the drug is mental, as opposed to physical, how can you even compare long term mental health to instant organ damage?

Whilst still up for debate what draws the user to the drug, there is a correlation with anxiety, psychosis and depression with the intake of cannabis. That is indisputable fact. Not only that, but studies show due to heavy usage, heart attacks, strokes and abnormalities in the brain form, as well as lung disease, which effects cannabis user 24 years quicker than cigarette smokers.

The mention of cannabis for medicinal purposes is also fruitless, it's hardly being used in the same manner a pothead induces it, come on, this is elementary stuff. Not to mention, not all hospitals around the world endorse it, nor it is common treatment with studies still debating its use and effectiveness.


It is myth smoking pot leads to cancer or depression .

What heart attacks and strokes all BS.

[synthesis]

It is myth smoking pot leads to cancer or depression .

There is no direct link between THC and depression, true, but it can definitely cause cancer when smoked.

THC is almost totally harmless (except to your short-term memory) when cooked or vaporized.

[Vanguard1917]

Whether weed should be legal is a question of personal freedom, pure and simple. Its effects on body, its addictiveness, etc. are besides the point. Grown men and women don't need state officials deciding for them what they can and cannot eat, drink, smoke or whatever.

[lvl100]

I dont think that the goverment has some hidden agenda to imprison blacks or something like that.

It`s clearly that this drug have some problems, otherwise they would make it legal and put taxes on it. Tobacco and alcohol industries are huge money makers.

I was reading the cons and pros in this thread and it hit me (just a personal idea but i think it kinda makes sense):

If marijuana its less damaging than the alcohol (i`m not even disscusing about tobbaco, you cant get wasted with it) maybe thats why its considered more dangerous.
I mean not anyone can be a heavy drinker. You need a rather long time to get really wasted and a fairly good health condition to be able to enjoy it. For example I have friends that drool near me when i`m drinking a beer , but they are unable because of the stomach`s acidity problems. Not to mention the gruesome hangovers that might occur the next day that in many cases will turn off any desire for a future bacchic experience.
So alcohol has its own limitations.

On the other hand marijuana its another story. You can get high anywhere in just a few minutes and when the drug is out you dont walk like a zombie for the rest of the day.
So if they make it legal, a much larger number of people would get wasted and therefore the problems associated with that ( car accidents, violence, etc) will increase to a much higher level.

[Reclaimed Dasein]

Criminalizing Marijuana serves only to oppress the working class who encounter the police much more often than the bourgeoisie and often can't buy expensive lawyers to keep out of jail.
I think this is absolutely correct. Despite any medical, historical, or political reasons for Marijuana being outlawed initially, it is now being used to criminalize the poor. There's a strong argument that more than religion, opium is the opiate of the masses, but that's seems neither here nor there right now. If we can free an enormous amount of people from prison by decriminalizing marijuana that seems like a good start. We can convince them not to use drugs later. Or not.

[mikelepore]

What happened historically was, there was a "crime wave" in New Orleans in the 1920s, during a time when alcohol was prohibited. Newspaper capitalist William Randolph Hearst kept writing articles that said the black people and jazz musicians switching from alcohol to marijuana was the thing responsible for New Orleans crime problem. So Louisiana and a few nearby states outlawed marijuana, but nothing federal yet. Then when the Depression came, Texas newspapers told unemployed workers in Texas to blame their problems on marijuana-crazed Mexicans coming to take their jobs away. So the establishment of the Federal Narcotics Bureau in 1930, with anti-marijuana crusader Harry J. Anslinger as the head of it, was associated historically with the passage of the Mexican Repatration Act in 1931. In 1937 Anslinger testified to Congress and included questionable anecdotes, including the story of a man with schizophenia who had killed his wife, and Anslinger reported that marijuana and not schizophenia was the cause of the act, so that same year Congress signed the self-incriminating Marijuana Tax Act, which Roosevelt signed. The self-incriminating law was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court's overturning of a Timothy Leary conviction, so it was replaced by the 1970 Controlled Substance Act. As my source here, I'm pretty much parapharasing a documentary video entitled "Illegal Drugs and How They Got That Way" which I saw on television a few years ago.

[Agrippa]

I dont think that the goverment has some hidden agenda to imprison blacks or something like that.

Nowhere in my post do I mention a "hidden agenda to imprison blacks". The u.s. government is just as happy to incarcerate working class whites, Hispanics, etc.

Rather, there is an open agenda to incarcerate as many people as possible. This is because it is easier and cheaper to exploit the labor of incarcerated people.


It`s clearly that this drug have some problems, otherwise they would make it legal and put taxes on it. Tobacco and alcohol industries are huge money makers.

Unpasteurized/non-homogenized milk is also illegal in the u.s., as is sassafras. Are you suggesting that these substances are more hazardous to one's health than tobacco and alcohol?

Considering the number of highly toxic substances that are legal to produce and sell, what motivation would the u.s. have in expending so many resources criminalizing cannabis? Use your critical thinking skills.

Keep in mind that more taxes means less of a profit for the black-market narcotics industry which is basically in bed with the DEA.


the problems associated with that ( car accidents, violence, etc) will increase to a much higher level.

Cannabis is neither a known cause of car accidents or violence.

[ashaman1324]

marijuana was illegalized in the US in the 1930's because of a fascist congressman, Huey Long (wikipedia him) because black and latino musicians were going around "raping" white women. in the south, there used to be massive plantations to make rope from the fibers. and more than likely to smoke too.
ive smoked weed very very occasionally for over a year.
im just fine mentally and im physically fit.
im just always broke for some reason...

[politics student]

This is an interesting read.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/iom/IOMReport.htm

Interesting the list of side effects when in withdraw.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/cannabise.pdf

Interesting read.

Personally I hardly drink yet alone touch drugs. I have no issues with my mates who smoke weed.

[lvl100]

Rather, there is an open agenda to incarcerate as many people as possible. This is because it is easier and cheaper to exploit the labor of incarcerated people.

I doubt that, they are spending a lot of more money than they earn with the inmates. And in most of the places work its not even mandatory, it can bring you some advantages if you do it but not mandatory.


Unpasteurized/non-homogenized milk is also illegal in the u.s., as is sassafras. Are you suggesting that these substances are more hazardous to one's health than tobacco and alcohol?

Actually , yes it is. Maybe you will die after 20 years of smoking, just maybe.
But a lot of infested milk will fill the hospitals today, no matter if your pothead or a vegetarian obsessed by his body blood purity.


Considering the number of highly toxic substances that are legal to produce and sell, what motivation would the u.s. have in expending so many resources criminalizing cannabis? Use your critical thinking skills.

I did use them. But you still didnt debunked my little hypothesis.


Keep in mind that more taxes means less of a profit for the black-market narcotics industry which is basically in bed with the DEA.

DEA = State
Do you think that a few DEA prosecutors can make more money for the State than the IRS ? :)


Cannabis is neither a known cause of car accidents or violence.
Of course it isn't. I mean what are the chances to have an accident driving completely wasted at 80 miles / hour ? Null i guess :laugh:

[bruce]

I think it's important to note that the movement towards prohibition was fueled by the racial fearmongering and propaganda, but not funded by it. That was provided by companies such as DuPont as a measure of protectionism against a growing hemp industry.

[gorillafuck]

I love marijuana as much as the next guy, but this is really not the biggest issue at hand, in my opinion.

[4th_horseman]

the mexican maryjane theory is soon to be a moot point anyway. they have a bill in their legislature to remove criminal penalties for marijuana use. surprisingly enough the bill received support from our very own drug czar.
too new to post links but you can just google mexico marijuana legislation.

[Black Sheep]

I love marijuana as much as the next guy, but this is really not the biggest issue at hand, in my opinion.

I never said it was.My question was on the 'it became class related'.. what that means, and why it was banned because of that.

i don't give a rat's behind about marijuana itself or drugs in general,my question was clear.At least i thought so.

[tehpevis]

Of course it isn't. I mean what are the chances to have an accident driving completely wasted at 80 miles / hour ? Null i guess :laugh:
That would be DWI. Pot makes you drive at 5mph down the Interstate lol

[tehpevis]

I never said it was.My question was on the 'it became class related'.. what that means, and why it was banned because of that.

i don't give a rat's behind about marijuana itself or drugs in general,my question was clear.At least i thought so.
It was, just that most of us apparently ignored it.

[duffers]

It is actual anti-working class as all drugs are, but it's probably best that the disbelievers of that 'moronic' subject, science, disregard all sensible thought and cull themselves from society, when they eventually become schizophrenic, mad, or dull as a butter knife.

[ZeroNowhere]

disbelievers of that 'moronic' subject, science
Carl Sagan? :D

There's nothing wrong with marijuana. However, it can be grown quite easily by people, and is far better than alcohol or cigarettes (you see a load of assholes fighting with people. Are they drunk or on marijuana? Yes, drunk. People on marijuana can't fight, because it is impossible). Thusly, it would be high in the interests of capitalists in charge of cigarette and alcohol companies to make it illegal, as otherwise people wouldn't have to rely on them for drugs. Crud, if I remember correctly, they even managed to get snus banned in most of the EU. Heh.

[duffers]

There's nothing wrong with marijuana.

Still not fact. Studies suggest it's not. Up for contention, currently.

[Pogue]

It is actual anti-working class as all drugs are, but it's probably best that the disbelievers of that 'moronic' subject, science, disregard all sensible thought and cull themselves from society, when they eventually become schizophrenic, mad, or dull as a butter knife.

Are your arguments based around trying to justify republicans murdering (rival) drug dealers in Northern Ireland? I think they are.

[duffers]

Jeez, you've already proved you're an apologist for English imperialism, you gonna follow me here to a different topic?

I don't like drugs regardless of INLA's stance on them, is that allowed?

How about Cuba? Do I not agree with that based on republicanism as well? Piss off with your sectarian shite.

[bretty]

From from being dangerous, marijuana is now being used to diminish the effects of some illnesses such as multiple sclerosis because the drug has such as a calming effect on the body. There is no evidence to show that marijuana is more dangerous than tobacco or any other drug, and is certainly not physically addictive*. This is not just true of marijuana but also of a range of other drugs which are currently banned by the oppressive bourgeois state, including MDMA, and communists should fight against the deluge of lies which is currently being spread in the bourgeois education system concerning the effects and allegedely addictive properties of recreational drugs.

As Emma Goldman might have said, if it doesn't have drugs, it's not my revolution.

*However, even if it was shown that marijuana is highly dangerous, there would still be no justification for banning it, as long as the harms are limited to the person who is taking the drug and others are not harmed as a result.

Quoted for Truth.