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Invader Zim

26th May 2003, 02:19

Quote: from i hate pinochet on 4:22 am on May 14, 2003
It would be more accurate if human waste was running through the streets as well.

--IHP

It would be yet still more accurate if it had the bones from one of the many mass graves sticking out of the ground... But were going into technicalitys.

Guardia Bolivariano

26th May 2003, 05:34

To bad that iraqi woman doesn't have a macht.

(Edited by Guardia Bolivariano at 5:35 am on May 26, 2003)

Guest1

26th May 2003, 07:28

it would be even more accurate with a crowd of demonstrators being shot at by the soldiers. 15 dead. but then we're REALLY getting picky, eh AK?

FAB

29th May 2003, 04:16

Really true

death b4 dishonour

29th May 2003, 04:25

"Who did the yanks give contracts to to rebuild the iraqi oil industry. In the boom video clip by that band it mentions someone from shell or something having the top spot or something like that."

I think it was Halliburton who was given the contracts to rebuild the Iraqi oil fields. I think it is partly owned by Dick Cheney or something.

IHP

29th May 2003, 04:42

"It would be yet still more accurate if it had the bones from one of the many mass graves sticking out of the ground... But were going into technicalitys"

Yes, good point. Also, why doesn't it show a boy dying of AIDS in South Africa? Or why doesn't have a picture of Napoleons parents in Corsica?

Where in that satirical cartoon does it show anything about the former regime? Can't find it? No. You know why, because this cartoon isn't talking about the old regime. It's talking about the new regime. The oil, the lack of running water, and as I said the human waste because if you recall the water treatment plants and sewage systems haven't been put into action yet.

Hence what I said. You really are nick-picker aren't you.

--IHP

nz revolution

29th May 2003, 05:58

FUCK YOU AK 47, YOU ARE NO LEFT WINGER.

You should really join the Labour Party and fuck off you liberal piece of fuckin trash.

FUCK YOU!

Urban Rubble

29th May 2003, 06:08

Why, because he understands that Saddam Hussein is evil ? As left wingers are we supposed to ignore a madman that tortured and raped thousands of innocent people ?

I hate you fucks that think just because America is against something that you have to be for it.

Fuck you NZ revolution, you're an idiot.

Urban Rubble

29th May 2003, 06:11

By the way, I understand the evil things we've done in this war, that doesn't make Saddam any better.

Once again, fuck you.

nz revolution

29th May 2003, 11:22

FUck you too you fuckin idiot.

This **** known as AK suports the war I take it you do to fuck face.

WHat ever happened to a nation deciding for itself?

Go suck GWB dick you loser

nz revolution

29th May 2003, 11:24

You don;t think I know Saddam is evil?

You are pathetic.

AK supports the war on Iraq, he supports Israel invading Palestine.

Maybe you could organise a get together with Bush, Sharon and AK?

Fuckin idiot

IHP

29th May 2003, 11:35

What the fuck just happened there?

Urban rubble, how base do you think we 'fucks' are. Get off your freakin' high horse. We know Saddam's evil. That cartoon had nothing to do with his regime.

"I hate you fucks that think just because America is against something that you have to be for it."

We're a little presumptious aren't we? How can you possibly have any clue about our stance and why. You are obviously pro-war. Justify your stance.

If you can't, take your gutter talk somewhere else.

--IHP

Invader Zim

29th May 2003, 11:42

Quote: from nz revolution on 11:24 am on May 29, 2003
You don;t think I know Saddam is evil?

You are pathetic.

AK supports the war on Iraq, he supports Israel invading Palestine.

Maybe you could organise a get together with Bush, Sharon and AK?

Fuckin idiot

he supports Israel invading Palestine.

No i dont! I have said MANY times how i believe that the actions of Isreil are completly immoral. But i doubt you will understand as you are determined not to.

You should really join the Labour Party and fuck off you liberal piece of fuckin trash.

Tell me were you born ignorant or did you acquire ignorance over time?

This **** known as AK

Ohh big words little man, go away and annoy some one with the time and inclination to put up with you.

Just because America is against something that you have to be for it.

Thats my logic about the war, Saddam needed to be removed, however the actions (or lack of them) of the USA restoring the

Tell me nz revolution do you always excessivly flame people you disagree with with out actually posting a single argument. I think it really highlights your ignorance, i suggest you stop digging.

Invader Zim

29th May 2003, 11:46

Quote: from Che y Marijuana on 7:28 am on May 26, 2003
it would be even more accurate with a crowd of demonstrators being shot at by the soldiers. 15 dead. but then we're REALLY getting picky, eh AK?

Yes well i was simply adding a little to IHP's comment, sorry if i annoyed you or IHP with that comment.

IHP

29th May 2003, 11:57

OK, fair enough. I apologize for attacking. I thought you were challenging me. *shake hands*

But that aside, in my reply post to you, do you see my point?

--IHP

Invader Zim

29th May 2003, 12:03

Quote: from i hate pinochet on 11:57 am on May 29, 2003
OK, fair enough. I apologize for attacking. I thought you were challenging me. *shake hands*

But that aside, in my reply post to you, do you see my point?

--IHP

Ohh yes completely, What you say is quite true, I supported the removal of Saddam Hussain not the systematic theft of the people's oil.

However i think its a bit unfair that you have a go at Urban Rubble after the conduct of nz revolution, who to be quite honist is being a reactionary fool.

IHP

29th May 2003, 12:13

Good. Settled.

In regards to Urban Rubble. I am just so utterly sick to death of being accused of being anti-war just because it's America. It's untrue and cannot be proved in anyway, shape or form. He was also questioning the integrity of the Leftists with:

"Why, because he understands that Saddam Hussein is evil ? As left wingers are we supposed to ignore a madman that tortured and raped thousands of innocent people ?"

I suppose I over-reacted. If Urban Rubble takes back his statement about anti-americanism, I will happily do the same.

--IHP

Felicia

29th May 2003, 18:03

awww, that's so sad! But yet, so true...... :(

Urban Rubble

30th May 2003, 01:50

O.K, first off, my comments were directed at NZ revolution, no one else. I wasn't saying leftists as a whole are against the war just because it's America but I think alot of them are. The reason I replied with such an attituse is because this NZ guy is calling names and being a "little *****". All AK did was acknowledge that Saddam is also evil and this kid comes back with that shit ? Fuck that.

I am not for the war, I am glad Saddam is gone but I think there were better ways to go about it. Either way it almost definately would have resulted in war, you can't negotiate with people like Saddam (or people like Bush).

I seriously wasn't directing these comments at anyone but NZ. Let's take a look at some of the great arguements he came back with:

"FUck you too you fuckin idiot"

Nice. Fuck you too you fucking fuck.

"Maybe you could organise a get together with Bush, Sharon and AK?"

Ya... I don't quite know what to say to that.

IHP

30th May 2003, 02:53

Ok, dispute two settled. Granted, NZ did go overboard.

But in future, please don't make sweeping statements like that. Thanks.

--IHP

nz revolution

30th May 2003, 03:52

Yeah I did go a wee over board. And you know you hardly swear and "flame" as you call it AK. So I'll tell you, no I don't.

T'was a long day of dealing with Liberals like yourselves (AK and Urban Rubble) but hey now its a new day.

Liberals who don't give a fuck about a war being waged in a far away land but as soon as the govt. raises fees for education they finally take notice of how shocking capitalism is.

How can a leftist support an Imperialist war? Well simple really, they are not a leftist but capitalist sympathiser.

Pah ignorance you say? You seem to be ignorant of all left wing ideology.

3 cheers for imperialism and AK's support of it!

Urban Rubble

30th May 2003, 07:38

I like how you read 3 posts of mine and decide that I'm a liberal. Aren't judgements fun !!

Even though I told you in the post before I didn't support the war you didn't seem to get it, so here it is in big ass letters I DIDN'T SUPPORT THE WAR. How you can say I'm a liberal who doesn't give a fuck about the war escapes me.

So tell me, what would your solution be to the problem of Saddam ? I would love to hear it. After all, I'm such a fucking sadistic capitalist sympathizer that I can't think of a solution other than war.

Zombie

30th May 2003, 07:43

Quote: from felicia on 1:03 pm on May 29, 2003
awww, that's so sad! But yet, so true...... :(

The truth? You don't know anything about the truth! You can't handle the truth!
The truth is out there Agent Scul.. Felicia, now go.

;)

nz revolution

30th May 2003, 08:57

The same way other tyrants in history have been ousted I'll write this in big arse letters BY A POPULAR REVOLUTION.

Quick U R someone else is being hassled in Chit Chat, run to thier rescue... (how you thought it was your righteous duty to run the the aid of AK is beyond me)

Urban Rubble

30th May 2003, 22:10

Hmmm, when you use my name you aren't just directing it at AK, you're directing it at both of us.

Answer my question though, what would you have done about the problem of Saddam ?

nz revolution

31st May 2003, 07:51

Me personally? I would have done what many other brave commies tried to do, have an uprising/revolution. As my last post said basically.

No I'm quite sure when I use your name I am directing it at you the same with anyone else, when I use someone elses name I am talking to them or commenting on them. Unless you and AK are the same person, or are in a deep and loving relationship.

Zombie

31st May 2003, 08:10

Answer my question though, what would you have done about the problem of Saddam ?

this has been debated over and over and over and over on this forum.
You're just starting a flamewar by asking this question ;)

Felicia

31st May 2003, 17:09

Quote: from Zombie on 3:43 am on May 30, 2003

Quote: from felicia on 1:03 pm on May 29, 2003
awww, that's so sad! But yet, so true...... :(

The truth? You don't know anything about the truth! You can't handle the truth!
The truth is out there Agent Scul.. Felicia, now go.

;)

There's no need for me to go out there and look for the truth, I am the truth. Come with me and let me lead you to the truth so you can know the truth and love the truth.......... hey wait... it sounds like I'm talking about me here doesn't it? ..... :biggrin:

Urban Rubble

31st May 2003, 21:05

"T'was a long day of dealing with Liberals like yourselves (AK and Urban Rubble) but hey now its a new day.
Liberals who don't give a fuck about a war being waged in a far away land but as soon as the govt. raises fees for education they finally take notice of how shocking capitalism is.
How can a leftist support an Imperialist war? Well simple really, they are not a leftist but capitalist sympathiser.
Pah ignorance you say? You seem to be ignorant of all left wing ideology."

Am I alone in thinking that was directed towards me ?

rAW DEaL bILL

31st May 2003, 21:20

no that was definitly towards you by the look of it. anyway i personally think nz is being a ****. u cant tell someone theyre for the war. u cant say "hwey u over there yea u ur for war dammit i dont care what u fucking say ass hole UR FUCKINGN FOR WAR!!!!" its bullshit. the man repetitivly said hes against the war dumbshit nz. how could u possibly get angry at what AK said? its total bullshit. je wasnt disagreeing the war was fucked he was simply recognising that the old regime was pretty fucked too. that doesnt at all mean hes for the new one dumbass. i think if he was he wouldve said so. stop putting words in peoples mouth.

nz revolution

1st June 2003, 01:39

Oh I see more pathetic people running to the aid of AK and now to UR. These kids can look after themselves.

Your quoting is shocking I'm sure no one said:

"hwey u over there yea u ur for war dammit i dont care what u fucking say ass hole UR FUCKINGN FOR WAR!!!!"

I take it with your 38 posts you don't know this AK character where numerous threads have been started in the Commie Club about getting him thrown out of this website or only allowed in the OI forum.

Excuse my "ignorance" but what are you trying to get at by running around in little circles about who I was directing it at?

Invader Zim

1st June 2003, 02:14

Quote: from nz revolution on 1:39 am on June 1, 2003
Oh I see more pathetic people running to the aid of AK and now to UR. These kids can look after themselves.

Your quoting is shocking I'm sure no one said:

"hwey u over there yea u ur for war dammit i dont care what u fucking say ass hole UR FUCKINGN FOR WAR!!!!"

I take it with your 38 posts you don't know this AK character where numerous threads have been started in the Commie Club about getting him thrown out of this website or only allowed in the OI forum.

Excuse my "ignorance" but what are you trying to get at by running around in little circles about who I was directing it at?

*sigh* nz your petty attacks are making you look more dumb by the second. I suggest you stop in the hope to keep any credibility.

As for you comment about a guy with ounly 38 posts... you are reletivley new with 519 posts. Also you obviously dont know my charicter either. While were stating the obvious you obviously cant read either.

I suppose your just another 13 year old kid with a big ideas and no maturity. Which would explain for all your flame and attitude you have actually provided no evidance or even argument to back up your case.

Well i have not got the time for you.

Invader Zim

1st June 2003, 02:19

Quote: from nz revolution on 8:57 am on May 30, 2003
The same way other tyrants in history have been ousted I'll write this in big arse letters BY A POPULAR REVOLUTION.

And sacrifisse the lives of thousands of revolutionarys and even more civillians. The USA was in a far better position, with highly trained armys and huge technological advantages to a poorly trained and poorly equiped revolutionary force. If you used your brains and not your pashon for the cause for once you would see how illogical it is to use a revolution in this cercumstance.

nz revolution

1st June 2003, 05:00

I actually joined before you as you can tell, I spend more time doing other things than just typing on a forum where wishy washy left liberals like yourself profess their bullshit and I'm not 13 actually and I probably do more political work in one day than you do in months (that is, if you do more than just spout your support for George duh duh Dubya Bush)

I can read, but it seems you can't spell
pashon

I take it you mean passion.

Glad to see you support the imperialists in war, I rest my case...

nz revolution

1st June 2003, 05:02

Just to clarify, I was calling AK a wishy washy left liberal not anyone else.

Peace

Urban Rubble

1st June 2003, 07:06

NZ, the reason I'm "running around in little circles about who I was directing it at" is because you made several assumptions about me that weren't true and tried to claim they weren't directed at me.

Whatever though, this is little kid shit and I'm over it.

All I want to say is this, I'm not trying to fight with you and start stupid little insult wars, you are a leftist and so am I, that's enough to make me see you as a "friend" (even though I've never met you). What pissed me off is when you started using personal insults and making assumptions about me based on one or two posts.

Fuck it though, like I said, I'm over it.

My stance is this, Saddam was sick and needed to go. I wish it would have happened another way, like with a few more countries involved to keep us in check, but it didn't. I don't think a reolvution of the people would have worked. I did not support the war but I am glad Saddam is gone, I'm sad that we are now in control of Iraq.

Take those statements as you will.

One last thing, try not to make fun of people for their spelling, it just makes it look like you have nothing better to say.

(Edited by Urban Rubble at 3:08 pm on June 1, 2003)

nz revolution

1st June 2003, 10:12

I am also over it too, I guess I fucked up, long days and sleep deprevation can make you go crazy huh? And I guess it is all about getting in the last word as some might say.

Glad to hear you are a person of age (20), I myself am 19.

The only reason I picked on his spelling is because he said some rubbish about my reading, where they both go hand in hand really.

So are you from the States? I always thought you were from Canada.

"The workers united, will never be defeated"

Invader Zim

1st June 2003, 13:28

Quote: from Urban Rubble on 7:06 am on June 1, 2003

One last thing, try not to make fun of people for their spelling, it just makes it look like you have nothing better to say.

Its because he has nothing else to say. He hasnt place a single argument... Just flame.

And he's not even any good at that: -

Glad to hear you are a person of age (20), I myself am 19.

That makes it considerably worse that you are just immature. If you had been 13 I would have been able to forgive you for your imaturity.

Glad to see you support the imperialists in war, I rest my case...

No... *sigh* [condesending]I support the war because fewer lives would have been lost with the USA fighting it with presision rockets, than a bunch of poorly trained and armed revolutionarys who would get blasted by machine gun fire before they got any where near there objective.

I suppose you would rather see 100,000 thousands of civillians and revolutionarys die in a mass civil war, rather than the comparitivly few die in a shor but a effective war from the most powerful nation on earth.

But I suppose logic is not one of your strong points is it?

PS still waiting for an argument... Not just flame.

Urban Rubble

1st June 2003, 21:38

Ya, I'm a stupid American, I'm basically Candian, I'm 2 hours from the border and I spend as much time up there as I can. Whenever I leave the country I just tell people I'm Canadian, everyone loves Canadians =)

AK, I kind of agree with you, I definately think that by us fighting the war it saved more lives than a peoples revolution would have. But at the same time I think we could have gone about this much different, give it more time, let more countries be involved. Like I said though, at least Saddam is gone. I didn't support the war but I do support the ousting of that guy.

Seriously though, everyone calm down.

If the Kids
Are United
They will never
Be Divided

Sham 69- If the kids are united.

Comrade Mathew

1st June 2003, 21:56

i definetly oppose this war but i think that there are good points like the removal of sadam. every one has the right to decide if he thinks the war is right or wrong...... if the people see all arguments... ak does i think

Invader Zim

1st June 2003, 22:03

Quote: from Comrade Mathew on 9:56 pm on June 1, 2003
i definetly oppose this war but i think that there are good points like the removal of sadam. every one has the right to decide if he thinks the war is right or wrong...... if the people see all arguments... ak does i think

Yes, comrade I have given much thought to the war, and not reached my decisions lightly, nz does not respect that, soi actually pity him.

nz revolution

1st June 2003, 22:28

I have plenty to say actually AK my friend.

Thanks for your pity but I'll have to return it to you for your support of the imperialists in this war.

I thought it was quite funny how you said something about being 13 when you are only 2 years older than that.

I was actually thinking of that song "Kids are united" but I don't really know if 19+ people are counted as kids (maybe sometimes through their behavior).

Logic, what about principle? Every war the US wins it gets stronger, when the day comes (if it ever comes, because of people like you holding the anti-war, socialist, communist whatever you want to call it movement back) confronting the US ruling class will be near impossible. I see your logic is just as wishy-washy as your ideology.

Now the US is in a far better position to dominate the world, but hey there is relative peace for a few more months eh AK?

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/upload/pro-warlosers.jpg

Not some of your friends are they AK?

(Edited by nz revolution at 10:29 am on June 2, 2003)

Invader Zim

1st June 2003, 22:39

It may shock you to know that I am infact not 15.

Logic, what about principle?

Principal??? Howabout saving the lives of millions from genocide at Saddams hand? How about freedom for the Kurdish people? How about saving the lives of all those revolutionarys and civillians?

Just a few of my principals all of which out weigh the principal of attacking US imperialism, in my opinion.

I have plenty to say actually AK my friend.

I thought I was an ignorant fucker/wishy washy liberal according to you. But hey your inconsistancy is not a problem for me.

Every war the US wins it gets stronger, when the day comes (if it ever comes, because of people like you holding the anti-war, socialist, communist whatever you want to call it movement back) confronting the US ruling class will be near impossible. I see your logic is just as wishy-washy as your ideology.

Thats some fucked up logic you've got there, as it happens the US ruling class is already impossible to topple, the war in Iraq is not going to alter that a bit.

nz revolution

2nd June 2003, 00:46

Impossible? If you can't beat em join em then. You can do that. Not for me thank you.

16?

I thought you would crazy over putting "friend" in there, hehe...

Fucked up logic? Seems quite left-wing, challenging the capitalist elite not appeasing and justifying what they do, believing the bullshit they try and make us (the public) believe.

I guess the US doesn't have any strategic interest in Iraq, I take it the bases they will build will be to do tests on Iraqi sand, not for military reasons at all.

3 cheers for Bush, Blair and Howard! Saving the Iraqi people from Saddam!

(Edited by nz revolution at 12:48 pm on June 2, 2003)

IHP

2nd June 2003, 01:11

Come now children, that's quite enough.

This, and just about any other debate on this issue just end up bitter and with division. This could simply be a case of 'agree to disagree.'

So how 'bout it? Can we shake hands and move on? Iraq is somewhat yesterday's news now anyhow.

--IHP

Invader Zim

2nd June 2003, 02:01

Quote: from nz revolution on 12:46 am on June 2, 2003
Impossible? If you can't beat em join em then. You can do that. Not for me thank you.

16?

I thought you would crazy over putting "friend" in there, hehe...

Fucked up logic? Seems quite left-wing, challenging the capitalist elite not appeasing and justifying what they do, believing the bullshit they try and make us (the public) believe.

I guess the US doesn't have any strategic interest in Iraq, I take it the bases they will build will be to do tests on Iraqi sand, not for military reasons at all.

3 cheers for Bush, Blair and Howard! Saving the Iraqi people from Saddam!

(Edited by nz revolution at 12:48 pm on June 2, 2003)

Impossible? If you can't beat em join em then. You can do that. Not for me thank you.

I never said that.

16?

Wrong again, becoming quite a nasty habbit youve got there.

I thought you would crazy over putting "friend" in there, hehe...

well i would not call my responce crazy, then again as a "ignorant fucker" i would not know.

believing the bullshit they try and make us (the public) believe.

Yes but i dont believe what they say so that entire argument is false.

3 cheers for Bush, Blair and Howard! Saving the Iraqi people from Saddam!

If only you could really use sarcasm skillfully...

Come now children, that's quite enough.

This, and just about any other debate on this issue just end up bitter and with division. This could simply be a case of 'agree to disagree.'

So how 'bout it? Can we shake hands and move on? Iraq is somewhat yesterday's news now anyhow.

--IHP

I suppose so.