What the fuck is wrong with you? - Bush!

[Anonymous]

In a surprise, Bush backs a ban on semi-auto weapons
Knight Ridder Newspapers

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration is bucking the National Rifle Association and supporting a renewal of the assault weapons ban, set to expire just before the presidential election.

"The president supports the current law, and he supports reauthorization of the current law," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.

Tossing out the ban on semiautomatic weapons is a top priority for the NRA. President Bush said during his presidential campaign that he supported the current ban, but it was less clear whether he would support an extension.

More (http://www.sierratimes.com/03/04/13/knr_article1.htm)


Goddamn fucking bullshit! This shoudn't even be an issue! What the fuck is wrong with Bush lately? I mean, by now we should have already repealed the Brady act!

EDIT: btw, that fienstein ***** can suck my flaming cock. I'd love to deep throat that wrinkled up socialist whore.

(Edited by Dark Capitalist at 3:28 am on May 11, 2003)

[CubanFox]

Why does one need fully automatic assault rifle's in one's home? They're too powerful for hunting, and strafing a deer kind of ruins the fun of doing it with a bolt action rifle.

[hazard]

bush is just trying to appease us bleeding heart types, BUT DONT FALL FOR IT

his idea of a deal is blow the hell out of Iraq, amke the RW happy

make semiauto weapons illegal, make the LW happy

fuck that shit. make all weapons illegal. that way the revolution will be the only armed group to destroy america from within

LONG LIVE CHE! LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!

[Ghost Writer]

I guess I won't be casting my vote for GW this time around either. I didn't like his 16 billion dollar give away to Africa either.

[dopediana]

oh flipping wonderful. yay bush. way to create even more columbines.


but oh, wait! it's not the republican kiddies shooting up the school. it's the way out of control, bullied by the kiddies whose parents are probably republican, mentally bleeding lost souls who are shooting up the schools.
(such was not exactly the case in columbine, those kids, particularly mitchell were selfish shits, but nearly all other episodes of school massacres have been executed, pardon the pun, by such kids)

[atlanticche]

semi-autimatic weopans aqre not needed for anything but warfare its not likely to defend your own home with one you more likely to kill the people accross the street than a burgular
and you can't use it for hunting unless your some sort of mass deer murder it ruins the fun of traditional deer hunting
they have no place in the military either
semi-autimatics are useless for everyting with the exeption a revolution

LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION

[Blibblob]

Not semi-auto, but tri-bursts and almost fully autos. It's the ban on assault, dont say semi-autos, or is it both, 'cause that would be stupid... Assault rifles, imo, are a waste of bullets. Why the hell do you want to shoot 400 rounds per minute? Semi-Autos are fine, that way you don't have to load every damn time, firing as fast as you can pull the trigger. You don't need it any faster, that will cause more misses, and again, a fucking waste of ammo. But, it is weird. Shotguns are legal, but assault rifles aren't... You can fucking blow a head of with both, shotgun could actually do more damage. Oh well...

(Edited by Blibblob at 9:17 am on May 11, 2003)

[antieverything]

The thing is, DC, that bans on assault weapons enjoy an incredible amount of popular support. No president would dare go against something as popular as this.

But hey, Cappies are delusional...when they see a deer, it's the size of an elephant.

[Tkinter1]

What about the gun collectors, who enjoy collecting and showcasing assault rifles? They are law abiding citizens, should they be subjected to this law?

[Anonymous]

http://www.gunowners.org/a042203.htm

[nz revolution]

Over here it sucks because a semi-auto can't have more than 7 bullets in the magazine.

I think you need to get a higher class licence for autos and say howitzers.

Semi-autos are ideal for hunting pests over here eg. deer, goats, possums, rabbits and hares.

Poor americans can't always get what you want. Isn't cheap oil enough?

[antieverything]

What about the gun collectors, who enjoy collecting and showcasing assault rifles? They are law abiding citizens, should they be subjected to this law?
So if I come out and say that I'm a collector of vintage WWII weaponry, I should be allowed to gain access to, say, flame throwers or nuclear weapons?

[Tkinter1]

anti, what are you talking about?

And I've hear of people owning vintage flame throwers...

(Edited by Tkinter1 at 1:29 am on May 12, 2003)

[The Muckraker]

"But hey, Cappies are delusional...when they see a deer, it's the size of an elephant."

And when he sees his penis, it's the size of a rifle. :-)

Dark Capitalist,

Are you for mandatory sentences when a crime is committed using a gun or a rifle? If so, how long of a sentence?

[Anonymous]

No, I'm not.

[The Muckraker]

Why not?

[Anonymous]

What tool was used in the comitting of a crime is irrelevant. Killing is killing, regardless of wether it's done with a hammer or a .45. Criminals will use whatever is the easiest and/or cheapest weapon to get the job done.

[The Muckraker]

What tool was used in the comitting of a crime is irrelevant. Killing is killing, regardless of wether it's done with a hammer or a .45.

This may well be true, but it doesn't really address the question, does it?

Surely you're not going to equate a handgun with a hammer, are you? One is much deadlier than the other, and we all know which that is. Armies, of course, do not square off with hammers, for guns are much deadlier and much safer for the user, since he is at a distance from the victim. This is why guns are more intimidating than hammers.

Also, I didn't say anything about murder at all. You were the one who leapt to that conclusion, so I assume that's what you see guns for: murdering people. After all, that's what you yourself talked about.

I, on the other hand, talked about crimes committed with guns. For example, armed robbery. No one has to be murdered for it to be armed robbery, of course. by your "logic," all robbery should be treated the same, whether a gun was used or not, correct? So you think the current criminal justice system has that wrong, yes?

If your concern is for the right to access of guns/rifles by law abiding citizens, then I'm curious as to why you oppose mandatory sentences on people who use these weapons while committing a crime. Surely you do not support crime, right? But you didn't offer an argument. Instead, you claimed equivalency of crime but not of weapon, disregarding the material differences between a hammer and a gun. If we were to agree with your "argument," then hunters should have to kill deer, and quail, and whatever else, with hammers, for to you they are the same.

You can see the idiocy inherent in what you wrote now, no doubt.

So, try again, please, and more than two meager and nonsensical sentences is welcome.

[Guest1]

HAHAHA, Muckraker, with every post you make me love you even more.

[vox]

Thanks. :-)

But be careful, Che y Marijuana. The word is out. the Muckraker is really vox. Remember vox? He pissed a lot of people off. But that's me.

vox

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Quote: from nz revolution on 9:33 pm on May 11, 2003
I think you need to get a higher class licence for autos and say howitzers.

Howitzers? are you sure? Aren't they carriage mounted anti-tank weapons???
you hit a deer with a howitzer, mate, there won't be anything remaining.

[nz revolution]

No no no way I use a howitzer, yes you are right with the description i was just making a point, Im glad someone reacted YAY!

[CubanFox]

Dude, howitzers are old news, man. Everyone with any self respect hunts deer with these now:

http://www.strategyplanet.com/commandos/images/leopold_5.jpg
http://www.strategyplanet.com/commandos/images/leopold_1.jpg

:cool:

They're called Leopolds and they kicked some arse at the Battle of Anzio.

(Edited by CubanFox at 11:18 am on May 12, 2003)

[Guest1]

Quote: from vox on 3:33 am on May 12, 2003
Thanks. :-)

But be careful, Che y Marijuana. The word is out. the Muckraker is really vox. Remember vox? He pissed a lot of people off. But that's me.

vox


Doesn't matter old friend, I like your posting, we'll just pick up from here and continue the cause. I'm a forgiving person and I hope everyone else can be too. I also hope you can appreciate our contributions too, because that's what pisses people off.

Anyways, things'll be good, no worries. And once again, welcome back ;)

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from Tkinter1 on 9:02 pm on May 11, 2003
What about the gun collectors, who enjoy collecting and showcasing assault rifles? They are law abiding citizens, should they be subjected to this law?


If they have the working parts removed and the breach sealed then the law is different, at least in this country, im not sura abou the US.

In my opinion all gun ownership, (with the exception of licenced shooting clubs) should be banned along with hunting. End of problem.

[nz revolution]

How will you have your armed revolution with your AK AK47?

[Invader Zim]

nz revolution Posted on 10:23 pm on May 12, 2003
How will you have your armed revolution with your AK AK47?


I wont...

Its just a name, i chose for 3 reasons...

1. Deap philasophical bullshit i could tell you, but it IS bullshit...

2. My opinion on violance has changed considerably since i joined. I am now anti violance except in very unique cercumstances.

3. Out of the 4 guns i have fired that one was my favourate... It just feels so much better than the L98, .22 etc. At the time i was strapped to find a name, AK47 just came into my head, when thinking randomly.

Infact while im on the subject could i change my name? Mods, Admin???

[antieverything]

Uhg...mandatory minimums are always a bad idea.

TK, what do you think I'm talking about? I quoted you and responded to the statement. Where do you draw the line on which killing machines are acceptable?

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Taking guns out of law-abidng citizens' hands just mean that criminals (Who will have procured their weapons illegally!) will not have to worry about getting shot... my personal opinion is that if a burglar breaks in your house and gets a faceful of buckshot, the f--kin' idiot deserved it.