The American Nazi Party claims to be socialist! - Pure bull!

[Comrade Gorley]

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You read that correctly. The ANP is listed on Google as being "socialist"! And after doing further research, I've found that George Lincoln Rockwell, the white supremacist I nominated as the patron saint of capitalism (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...m=22&topic=2296 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=2296)) actually CLAIMED to be a socialist! He was the founder of the "National Socialist White People's Party"! Here's the homepage: http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/n...e-peoples-party (http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/national-socialist-white-peoples-party)

This is disgusting blasphemy! I'm almost considering a petition against this!

[Umoja]

Facism is considered National Socialism.

[synthesis]

Dude, the term Nazi is an abbreviation for the German translation of National Socialist. It's what the Nazis are.

Hitler just called himself a Socialist because he knew it would gain him the support of the working classes.

[Comrade Gorley]

So that's what Nazi means. (sigh) I feel so naive.

But I still think calling yourself a socialist, regardless of whether the punctuation "National" makes it fascist or not and still being a racist is.. crap.

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[T Blair]

National Socialism is simply an ideological hybrid.
It replaces "class" with "nation.”
It's a revolution of the nation instead of the working class.
Hitler plagiarised the idea from Mussolini who wanted to transform shitaly into the Old Roman Empire.
Don't get it twisted; Hitler overtly hated Marxism/Socialism. The communists were his chief political adversary.

It wasn't imposed to appeal to just the working class, it was imposed to appeal to all Germans who’s lives and nation were more or less destroyed by the Treaty of Versailles, the stock market crash (great depression) the Weimar Republic...etc.

Beyond the idea of "revolution," it has nothing to do with Socialism in the Marx/Engles/Che context.







(Edited by T Blair at 11:02 pm on May 9, 2003)

[Totalitarian]

National socialism is just what it sounds like > socialism applied to a particular nation.

Differs heavily from universalist socialism which Marxists support.

But then again, there are so many different definitions of the word "socialist".

[synthesis]

National socialism is just what it sounds like > socialism applied to a particular nation.

No, it wasn't. Hitler was one of the least socialist people of the twentieth century. Most trade union leaders were either murdered or imprisoned, and strikes were officially banned by law.

[hazard]

t blah:

that shitaly clip was hilarious. especially considering that it is taking place in anti nazi / anti racist thread. its really funny how white supremicists view anything other than northern european cultures as being inferior. sort of like the way you refer to italy.

you should watch the way in which you refer to nations as culturally important as italy, you swastika wearing goose steppin fascist.

[Cassius Clay]

Don't forget one thing. Nazi Germany was Capitalist, just like the U$A or British Empire. The Death Camp system was Capitalism at it's worst (or best would be more correct since they sure did make a mark or two).

[kidicarus20]

Well it was definitely based on classism. And all Nazi parties despise socialists.

[Totalitarian]

Quote: from DyerMaker on 4:16 am on May 10, 2003
National socialism is just what it sounds like > socialism applied to a particular nation.

No, it wasn't. Hitler was one of the least socialist people of the twentieth century. Most trade union leaders were either murdered or imprisoned, and strikes were officially banned by law.


Okay, point taken. How much striking did the Soviet government allow? They had death camps too...

[RedCeltic]

It's kind of hard to take Swastika bearing Nazis seriously. At least where I live in New York where the population has become so multicultural, backwards thinkers like that are in such a minority, and have no chance of being taken seriously even among most whites.

I can see where the ideology of National Socialism can become quite popular and dangerous in some nations where the majority of people share the same ethnic roots. However the United States is made up of so many ethnic groups that their beliefs are inconsistant with reality.

They talk about preservation of "European Culture" but this is the "American Nazi Party" lol... Nationalism is sort of linked to preservation of the culture of the land one lives in. They are talking about Preservation of culture of the lands whites come from! The heritage that's linked to the land we live on would be Native American heritage!

I don't think there is anything wrong with someone embracing their heritage, as long as the respect others rights to do the same. We can all learn alot from eachother. I'm a lover of cultural heritage and traditions myself, which is why I'm an anthropologist.

[T Blair]

Quote: from hazard on 4:27 am on May 10, 2003
t blah:

that shitaly clip was hilarious. especially considering that it is taking place in anti nazi / anti racist thread. its really funny how white supremicists view anything other than northern european cultures as being inferior. sort of like the way you refer to italy.

you should watch the way in which you refer to nations as culturally important as italy, you swastika wearing goose steppin fascist.


Wouldn’t a Fascist naturally worship shitaly, the worst country in the world?
Not only is it responsible for the inception of such a wicked, perverse and murderous ideology,
It continues, to this day, to advocate it…despite its injurious flaws.
Alessandra Mussolini is presently sitting in parliament for the National Alliance (neo-fascist party currently in power) not only condoning, but praising her Grand Father’s sadistic, anti-intellectual, botched political platform.
Am I to admire a nation such as this; a nation of blackshirts; a nations who’s cultural eminence manifests itself in the form of genetically mutated turtles that do karate?
I don’t want to wind up assassinated like Matteotti, do I?
Big ups ITALY:
The Mecca of meaningless (f)art, Bicycle thieves, and fascism.

[Saint-Just]

Quote: from T Blair on 10:43 pm on May 10, 2003

Quote: from hazard on 4:27 am on May 10, 2003
t blah:

that shitaly clip was hilarious. especially considering that it is taking place in anti nazi / anti racist thread. its really funny how white supremicists view anything other than northern european cultures as being inferior. sort of like the way you refer to italy.

you should watch the way in which you refer to nations as culturally important as italy, you swastika wearing goose steppin fascist.


Wouldn’t a Fascist naturally worship shitaly, the worst country in the world?
Not only is it responsible for the inception of such a wicked, perverse and murderous ideology,
It continues, to this day, to advocate it…despite its injurious flaws.
Alessandra Mussolini is presently sitting in parliament for the National Alliance (neo-fascist party currently in power) not only condoning, but praising her Grand Father’s sadistic, anti-intellectual, botched political platform.
Am I to admire a nation such as this; a nation of blackshirts; a nations who’s cultural eminence manifests itself in the form of genetically mutated turtles that do karate?
I don’t want to wind up assassinated like Matteotti, do I?
Big ups ITALY:
The Mecca of meaningless (f)art, Bicycle thieves, and fascism.






Now, would Tony Thatcher be pleased you said that?

[hazard]

toni:

if I were to attempt to decipher your post without a cypher, I'd be dead a hundred years before I even got half way through what you're trying to say. so I'll just filter through all the nonsense.

and whats left in the glass, after straining out all the hog wash, is an ugly little pulpless purified substance. here it is.

racism

take your white supremicist, only the whitest of the whitest of the white is white and everything else is shit attitude and shove it up your beer drinking, albino, dead eyed whore of a sisters stinking twat. when people ask you if you shave your legs does it make you feel like a man, or a ****?

[T Blair]

If fascism is a race, then I am a racist.
I hate fascism and I hate the ugly womb that
gave birth to it: shITALY.


I am a Zionist.
The White supremacist, gentile/goyim rat fuck is too self-absorbed to see how ridiculous he is. I refuse to aknowledge this sub-specie as anything less than "terminally worthless."
Do you know why my family first got involved with banking?
Because the racist rat pig gentile prohibited the Jew from pretty much every other possible avenue of employment.
I spit on the Gentile,
I spit on Italy.
&
I spit on you!

[hazard]

t banned:

I think you've said enough to prove that you are a nazi, and should be banned.

although the word facism has its origins in ITALY, the practice is much older than even the roman empire. many people consider Plato's republic to be the origin of ALL facist thought. your problem should be with the ancient greeks and not with italy.

but then again, they're southern european too so you probably have a million reasons to hate 'em already.

you are red, not because you're a commie, but because every time you try to tan, you burn. BOOYAAA!

[Liberty Lover]

If Plato was responsible for facism, who was responsible for [i]fascism[i]?

[CubanFox]

Stop being a typo policeman.

[Liberty Lover]

When a word is misspelled more than once it ceases to be a typographical error and enters the realm of stupid spelling mistakes.


(Edited by Liberty Lover at 8:42 am on May 15, 2003)

[hazard]

wow, lover, you can spell real good

if I ever need a publicist, I'll be sure to let you know

[Liberty Lover]

LOL, The mere suggestion that hazard would ever get book published is implausibly absurd.


(Edited by Liberty Lover at 8:43 am on May 15, 2003)

[hazard]

what makes you so sure I havent already get book published?

and what if I really want to get book published? how dare you insult my dreams! I'd get book published before you'd ever get book published!

[Xvall]

Socialism is usually an international theory; Nationalized Socialism is pure idiocy, as are the individuals who follow it. Just like the National Bolshevism crap that Russian anti-semites used to try and appeal to the Ex-Soviet population. National Socialism will get you nothing but a bunch of stupid suburban teenagers that post on Stormfront complaining that they had to sit next to an African American on a bus. Most prominent National Socialists (Hitler, Himmler, etc.) are dead. They got what they had coming. Hopefully the Nazis running around now will follow in their footsteps. If they want a Racial Holy War prehaps we had best give them one. Red Power.

[Comrade Gorley]

Quote: from hazard on 9:35 am on May 11, 2003
what makes you so sure I havent already get book published?

and what if I really want to get book published? how dare you insult my dreams! I'd get book published before you'd ever get book published!


I'm with Hazard on this one. Grammar and spelling were just invented by the wealthy burgeoise twits to make themselves feel intelligent, simply because they could conform to something that was considered upper-class. Of course, I attempt to follow these rules, but not following them shouldn't result in some weak cappie verbal jabs.

To show you the irrelevance and stupidity of spelling perfect, LL, let me correct your punctation and grammar:

"When a word is misspelled more than once, it ceases to be a typographical error and enters the realm of 'Stupid Spelling Mistakes'. "

You substituted "be" for "became", made "mistakes" singular and didn't make your realm a proper title.

For shame! ;)

(Edited by Comrade Gorley at 10:27 pm on May 11, 2003)

[synthesis]

I would just like to add my comment that T Blair fits perfectly the definition of 'Zionazi'. He is the physical embodiment of that term.

[T Blair]

Quote: from hazard on 8:58 am on May 11, 2003
t banned:

I think you've said enough to prove that you are a nazi, and should be banned.

although the word facism has its origins in ITALY, the practice is much older than even the roman empire. many people consider Plato's republic to be the origin of ALL facist thought. your problem should be with the ancient greeks and not with italy.

but then again, they're southern european too so you probably have a million reasons to hate 'em already.

you are red, not because you're a commie, but because every time you try to tan, you burn. BOOYAAA!


Nah,
The Greeks, though loud and obnoxious and responsible for the creation of Zappa clothing; the most hideous clothing company EVER, are pretty TIGHT!
I lovah tha gyros and ah tha falafel...you know,
I'm a regular Shirley fucking Valentine.
The evil and demonic Turks however...

I SPIT ON THE TURKS!

[Edelweiss]

That's nothing new really, at least here in Germany a big faction of the neo-Nazis uses leftist rhetoric, and claims to be anti-capitalist, anti-US-imperialist and of course anti-zionist and pro-Palestine. Their ideology are pretty simular to some Stalinists on this site, the anti-semtism is exatly the same, and actually there are some former Maoists/Stalinists in the NPD the biggest neo-Nazi party in Germany (Horst Mahler for example, a former RAF terrorist).

[Chiak47]

Hitler was a socialist.
For example....
He gave tractors to farmers and supplied machinery to factories at no cost.

[革命者]

Quote: from Chiak47 on 8:44 am on May 15, 2003
Hitler was a socialist.
For example....
He gave tractors to farmers and supplied machinery to factories at no cost.
hitler was evil.
hitler was (probably) a human being.
you are (probably) human.
does that make you evil??

[Chiak47]

I'm evil...So what?

As far as Hitler...It could have been worse.
He could have been Stalin or Pol-Pot.

[Cassius Clay]

Hitler was a Capitalist. He said he was in defence of private property. He met in 1932 with two of Germany's biggest Industrialists to say he 'was the only alternative to the Communists' and to say he would safeguard there interests. And who made huge prfoit out of the death camp system? That's right German Capitalist company's.

Oh and Malte 'Stalinists' (especially me since you said 'all Stalinists on this board) are NOT anti-semitic, a few misguided individuals who claim to like Stalin while openly being white-supremisats and extreme nationalists may exist. But it's not my or Stalin's fault that they buy there own propganda about the man.

[Aleksander Nordby]

You fucking stalinist!

[von Mises]

Quote: from Cassius Clay on 10:14 am on May 16, 2003
Hitler was a Capitalist. He said he was in defence of private property. He met in 1932 with two of Germany's biggest Industrialists to say he 'was the only alternative to the Communists' and to say he would safeguard there interests. And who made huge prfoit out of the death camp system? That's right German Capitalist company's.


So, since when can there be no private property in a socialist country?

Those who claim that he was a socialist have far more arguments supporting their views. And since as far as I can tell almost all German ceo's were members of the NSDAP so capitalism under Hitler is as far from the real thing as socialism under Stalin.

[Invader Zim]

Oh and Malte 'Stalinists' (especially me since you said 'all Stalinists on this board) are NOT anti-semitic, a few misguided individuals who claim to like Stalin while openly being white-supremisats and extreme nationalists may exist.

Out of the stalinists i have had the mispleasure to waste my time with are usually antisemetic bastards who probably done with more love and attention as kids.

With the following exceptions: -

Oren (New Democracy)
Cassius Clay
Thursday Night
Mazdac

That is about the sum total of Non antisametic stalinists i have spoken to. all the rest have been antisametic.

PS if you are a non antisametic stalinist and i have missed you out the list i am sorry.

[Cassius Clay]

AK47, isn't Oren Jewish? Which kind of puts this whole theory into the rubbish tip where it deserves to be. I'm not sure who or what 'Stalinists' you've been talking to but I can tell you they are not anything of the sought.

For starters.

''"anti-Semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism.
Anti-Semitism is of advantage to the exploiters as a lightening conductor that deflects the blows aimed by the working people at capitalism. Anti-Semitism is dangerous for the working people as being a false path that leads them off the right road and lands them in the jungle. Hence Communists, as consistent internationalists, cannot but be irreconcilable, sworn enemies of anti-Semitism.

In the USSR anti-Semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system"

Josef Stalin.

And who attempted to set up a Jewish Autonmous Republic? Comrade Stalin.

The RCWP has been accussed of anti-semitism and they answered that ridiculious claim categorically and firmly. Today in Russia it is precisly the 'Stalinists' who are fighting anti-semitism. It is the 'Stalinists' who walked out of a conference in protest against anti-semitism. And I guess it's because we are such racsists that people like Paul Robeson and W.E.B Doubious praised Stalin?

Von misses, it's been claimed with alot of evidence to back it up that the USSR between 1956 and 1991 was infact Capitalist. I've seen no evidence that Nazi Germany was not, infact all the evidence is on the contray. I couldn't care if Hitler orginally belonged to a group calling itself the 'German Workers' party, the fact is the Labor Party here in Britain claims to represent the workers, yet not once out of the dozne odd times they've been in power have they attempted to overthrow it. Under Saddam all teachers were forced to be members of the Bath Party, what's your point about the ceo's?

'You fucking Stalinist'

The maturity level of this board grows day by day.