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The Idler
26th October 2008, 17:20
Is there a book about all of the Internationals? 1st (1864), 2nd (1889), 3rd (1919), 4th (1938) and proposed 5th?
JimmyJazz
26th October 2008, 20:11
I've looked really hard for the same thing, but I've never found it.
I've found a few books about the 1st:
book 1 (http://www.amazon.com/Karl-Marx-British-Labour-Movement/dp/B000L38R7Y/ref=cm_lmf_tit_1), book 2 (http://www.amazon.com/Karl-Marx-First-International-Padover/dp/0070480818/ref=cm_lmf_tit_2), book 3 (http://www.amazon.com/Marx-Engels-Contribution-Breakthrough-Contemporary/dp/0791444902/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225048007&sr=1-1), plus any biography of K Marx
2nd:
book (http://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fall-Second-International/dp/B000WVY0XK/ref=cm_lmf_tit_5); plus this (http://www.amazon.com/May-Day-History-International-1886-1986/dp/0717806332/ref=cm_lmf_tit_4) and this (http://www.amazon.com/War-Zimmerwald-Origins-Communist-Internationalism/dp/1931859825/ref=ed_oe_p) are very related
and 3rd:
books (http://www.amazon.com/The-Comintern/lm/R2CXSYJ5TUZHGG/ref=cm_lm_byauthor_title_full)
Bottom line though, no, there isn't a book that covers the first three, much less also the fourth. Best to just read the wiki articles on them and then pick a book on the specific international you want to know more about.
Charles Xavier
27th October 2008, 03:44
Is there a book about all of the Internationals? 1st (1864), 2nd (1889), 3rd (1919), 4th (1938) and proposed 5th?
Read some of the speeches of the third International they are quite good.
Marx and Engels wrote extensively about the 1st, Lenin participated in the 2nd until its dissolution at the beginning of ww1 and founded the third.
Rosa Lichtenstein
27th October 2008, 05:18
Trotsky's 'The Third International After Lenin' is required reading:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1928/3rd/index.htm
And there is an article on the Fourth International by Duncan Hallas, here:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/hallas/works/1973/xx/fidecline.htm
You can also read his book on the Comintern, here:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/hallas/works/1985/comintern/index.htm
And his articles on the same, here:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/hallas/index.htm
Also relevant is Alex Callinicos's book on Trotskyism:
http://www.marxists.de/trotism/callinicos/index.htm
Charles Xavier
27th October 2008, 06:32
Trotsky's 'The Third International After Lenin' is required reading:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1928/3rd/index.htm
And there is an article on the Fourth International by Duncan Hallas, here:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/hallas/works/1973/xx/fidecline.htm
You can also read his book on the Commintern, here:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/hallas/works/1985/comintern/index.htm
And his articles on the same, here:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/hallas/index.htm
Also relevant is Alex Callinicos's book on Trotskyism:
http://www.marxists.de/trotism/callinicos/index.htm
Wow... these articles are pretty anti-communist.
Q
27th October 2008, 08:48
Wow... these articles are pretty anti-Stalinist.
Fixed.
Trystan
27th October 2008, 09:29
:lol:
Rosa Lichtenstein
27th October 2008, 11:59
GD:
these articles are pretty anti-communist.
As QC notes: anti-Stalinist, yes -- but that is one of their many strengths.:)
Hit The North
27th October 2008, 12:18
A book on the history of the workers' internationals would be an essential but monumental work.
In lieu of finding one, however, comrades could do worse than visit the Working-class Internationalism and Organization history page on MIA which is replete with links to articles and speeches from all four internationals as well as the forerunner of the 1st WI, the Communist League:
http://www.marxists.org/history/international/index.htm
Holden Caulfield
27th October 2008, 12:24
What about this one here (http://socialistworld.net/pubs/history/00.html)
Junius
27th October 2008, 13:04
I'm reading The Comintern - Historical Highlights.
Has a very detailed section into Stalin's massacre of various internationalists and socialists: the extermination of the Zimmerwald Left, the annihilation of the Polish Communist party, the extermination of the leaders of the Yugloslav party, the murder of the German Communist leaders, victims of the NKVD from Finland to Greece, murders of Italian Left Communists, with political backgrounds of the victims. Also has transcripts of Bordiga and others at the Congress of Marseille.
Hit The North
27th October 2008, 17:59
What about this one here (http://socialistworld.net/pubs/history/00.html)
Tut-tut. That is a link to the history of your very little party, not an account of the mass workers internationals. Naughty. :sneaky:
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