Marxism...the ultimate failure.... - Marxism is dead.

[Jifster777]

How can you people actually take yourselves seriously. Do you know why so many communist flags are red? It is the blood stained by 100 million victims. Victims that were mass murdered in the name of communism. Think about Karl Marx your founder. He died a poor man and accomplished nothing! What did he produce? What did he create? A revolution that is responsible for the worst crimes this century. I think you people are marxists because your afraid of a hard days work. You'd rather lounge around and do nothing with your lives. Not me no thank you. I'm an individual and i'd rather die than live like a slave. Marxism is for the lazy, for the unintelligent, for the weak-minded, and ultimately... for losers.

P.S. Russia is the end result of Marxism and America is the end result of liberal democracy and free enterprise. Russia...can we say...losers?

[Sensitive]

What is this pathetic cappie drivel doing in the Politics forum?

[Resorte]

If you think that Marxism is for the lazy, for the unintelligent, for the weak-minded, and ultimately... for losers you should learn more about Ernesto Che Guevara, this forum is for that purpose and ultimately... it might change your mind.

[the SovieT]

SHUT THE HELL UP YANKEE PIECE OF SHIT!!


BAN! BAN! BAN! BAN! BAN! BAN!


the communist flags are red due to blood yes... yet it symbolizes the blood of the workers taht died during the ages fighting the bourgeouse rule...

it is OUR comrades blood...
cause you and your litle capitalist blood can suck my cock!

[Som]

Well you're a jerk.


I hope you weren't expecting any sort of actual reply with crap like that.

[redstar2000]

#Moderation Mode

This is technically not my forum, but I don't think the other moderators will mind if I send this troll off to Opposing Ideologies.

What a dickhead!

:cool:

Moved here (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=2293)

[canikickit]

Redstar, I don't think it matters a damn who's forum it is. You can do what ever you see fit with regard to re-placing threads (at least that's what I've been doing).

[hazard]

since I've been on this board, this exact same topic has been raised at least a dozen times.

honestly, I'd love to know where this idea came from. that way it could be addressed at the source.

is this what teachers are told to tell kids about communism? what a joke.

[synthesis]

Russia...can we say...losers?

Russians are losers?

[Beccie]

You'd rather lounge around and do nothing with your lives

You guessed it! The sole reason I am a Marxist is because I like sitting on a couch. *Rolls eyes*

Try constructing some plausible arguments!

[革命者]

Quote: from DyerMaker on 3:28 am on May 5, 2003
Russia...can we say...losers?

Russians are losers?
discriminating --> BAN! :cool:

[革命者]

btw, what do you game nerds like about the number 777-- individuals.. lol. you're pathetic... go shoot some commies in cyberspace you!!

'cause the holocaust never happened it can't be seen as realistic-- quite harmeless.

(Edited by Scotty at 3:55 am on May 5, 2003)

[Lardlad95]

First of all Russians made more money under the soviet union than they do now

also how can you say that Marxists are lazy. Capitalist CEOS make 400 times more than the average worker (who by the way is probably unemplored thanks to Dubya)for doing no real labor.


Also America has killed countless numbers of people in the various wars we've created, assassinated world leaders, and allowed countless numbers of people to die.

Question if the US is such a great liberator why do we focus on IRaq when many people in Africa live under the same type of opression or worse.


Listen son you know not of what you speak so until you come back with facts, figures, or a valid philosophical,moral,or logical arguement please stay off these boards

[hazard]

"ultimate" failure

that in itself is the only thing I SHOULD comment on.

but besides this I will not. I cannot. well, not yet.

[pastradamus]

I'm an individual and i'd rather die than live like a slave

You are a slave you fucking fool.Marxism is about destroying this slavery.Your a slave for money untill you die in a capitalist society.

"Workers of the world unite,you have only your chains to lose."

[hazard]

alpha 66 should have his rank listed as that:

fucking fool

[pastradamus]

No hazard,We should brand it across his forehead.lol

[hazard]

yes, we should

and if that don't work, we should take turns kicking him in the guts until his snot gets all bloody and shit.

ME FIRST! ME FIRST!

[Urban Rubble]

Not suprisingly he didn't even respond to his own post.

What is it about capitalism that makes people defend it without knowing the facts ? I don't get it.

[Saint-Just]

Jifster777, the people that have died at the hands of justice are those such as yourself, you only give more reasons for this to continue.

[von Mises]

Quote: from Urban Rubble on 9:38 pm on May 5, 2003
Not suprisingly he didn't even respond to his own post.

What is it about capitalism that makes people defend it without knowing the facts ? I don't get it.


So the 100 millions have nothing to do with communism however all the killings caused by the US have everything to with capitalism?

Strange way of reasoning here

[Dirty Commie]

Malte has realy fallen behind in his banning of idots, some cappies I can put up with, but some of the people in here realy need to get out.

[von Mises]

Are you referring to me?

Up till now I have found only one of yu who agreed with me that these killings weren't caused by systems but by governments.

[革命者]

they were killed by government systems and he ppl whom created them.

[notyetacommie]

Von Mises, can you be more specific with those 100 million people? Is there any sort of a document that has all the names of the murdered by communists or are you just repeating someone? How come it is 100 millions no less no more? Not, say, 99,999,999 people, but EXACTLY 100000? You are making some strong accusations here, you need HARD FACTS, not just the ESTIMATES, to blame murder on someone. Even if this someone is the communists.

FACTS, please! FACTS!!!

[von Mises]

See Scotty's answer.

[Invader Zim]

I would disagree with Von Mises, communism did not kill 100 million people, people killed 100 million people.The communist/socialist ideals can not be blamed for the actions of Individuals nearer to facist than communist.

However the Stalinists deny that any Soviot holacaust occured, so if they are correct then this argument is pointless.

[von Mises]

Then you would agree with me AK, ;-) . But then I am probably the only capitalist who sees the US goverment as one of the greatest threats to freedom.

[Harmless Games]

First of all, Communists are the only people who dont need money (greed) to motivate htem to work, they do a full days work for the good of the community, Capitalists do a full days work to elevate themselves above everyone else. You dont want to die a slave? well than why work for crumbs while rich buisness owners have the real say in democracy by donating big bucks to their political party's? Why do you think SUV's are legal? Why do you think cars that get 15 MPG are allowed on our streets? because the billionares who own those SUV companies give big bucks to your friend Bush who all of a sudden decides there needs to be an SUV in every garage. Your a very misinformed individual. Good luck in life.

[American Kid]

Don't call him a dickhead.

Don't accuse of him troll-ship.

Don't call for his banning.

Engage him. Or you're fucked. Like it or not, he's the majority.

-AK

[Urban Rubble]

"But then I am probably the only capitalist who sees the US goverment as one of the greatest threats to freedom. "

That should be the reason he gets to stay I think. I'll be civil to any capitalist that will admit that.

[Capitalist Killer]

Marxism is not irrelevant, it is still true today after 155 years, Marx has and will always be right about capitalist society.