Is Sarah Palin fit to be vicepresident/president?

[Faction2008]

I would say no on the case that she is a moron. She said in her speech, "What does Obama want to accomplish after he's done healing the world?". I'm thinking why is that such a shit thing to want to do?

Here's a video seeing Sarah Palin getting tackled:D:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=07kO9TtHYzQ

[Sentinel]

She is a proudly ignorant and totally unpredictable religious fundamentalist, and a huge bigot. The more power she gets, the larger the amount of people are not only in danger of losing their rights in society, but their lives as well.

I'm truly horrified of the prospect of her ever getting to be president, and as her running mate is an old fossile that danger is imminent if they win.

I hope they don't.

[Bilan]

Hmm...is a ultra-right wing religious zealot fit to be president?
Hmm..hm-hm-hm-hm...

[Faction2008]

Republicans spent more than $150,000 on Sarah Palin's clothes

The Republicans have spent more than $150,000 (£92,000) on clothes and accessories for Sarah Palin and her family since she was chosen as the vice-presidential candidate in August.

By Tom Leonard in New York
Last Updated: 7:53AM BST 23 Oct 2008

Previous1 of 3 ImagesNext Sarah Palin's bills for campaign accessories include a $75,000 shopping trip Photo: AP
Palin dressed warmly for an appearance at an NHL game Photo: REUTERS
Palin with her son Trig. The campaign bills include $295 at an upmarket baby store Photo: AP
Questions over the legality of Mrs Palin's wardrobe bill – paid for out of campaign donations – prompted her spokesman yesterday to say that the clothes would not be kept but donated to charity.

According to financial records obtained by Politico.com, a US politics website, the fashion spending spree started in early September.

The spending on so-called "campaign accessories" included bills from the fashion chain Saks Fifth Avenue in St Louis and New York that came to a total of $49,425.

There were also a couple of hefty splurges at another expensive fashion store, Neiman Marcus, in Minneapolis, including one worth more than $75,000.

The Republican National Committee also spent $44,716 on Mrs Palin's hair and make-up in September after reporting no such costs in August.

The rest of the Palin family made do on rather less. Around $295 was spent at Pacifier, an upmarket baby store, and just under $5,000 at Atelier, an expensive men's clothes shop.

The legality of such expenditure was questioned by campaign finance experts who cited the Federal Election Commission's opposition to campaign money being used to buy items for personal use.

Federal campaign finance law prohibits the use of campaign funds for personal use, which it defines as any expense "that would exist irrespective of the candidate's campaign or duties as a federal officeholder".

After initially refusing to discuss the spending, the McCain campaign issued a new statement as criticism mounted.

"With all the important issues facing the country right now, it's remarkable that we're spending time talking about pantsuits and blouses," said a McCain spokesman.

"It was always the intent that the clothing go to a charitable purpose after the campaign."

Tax experts said Mrs Palin will be liable to tax on the clothes, even if she eventually gives them away.

Excessive primping and preening by presidential candidates is fraught with risk. John Edwards was lambasted over his $400 hair cuts in 2007 as was John McCain over his $520 Ferragamo shoes.

In 2006, Hillary Clinton was teased after she spent $3,000 for two sessions at the hairdressers

While this money is being spent pointlessly they are still reluctant to help the poor.

[Killfacer]

Bit of a pointless poll on a site full of lefties?

[Bud Struggle]

Bit of a pointless poll on a site full of lefties?

I think she's cute and she just as good as anyone else running for President. So why not?

[jake williams]

Ms. Palin isn't competent to be mayor of the "meth capital of Alaska".

[Dean]

Just as fit as all the other monsters who have run this shitty nation.

[Algernon]

She'd just be another version of W.

[Wake Up]

no-one is fit to be a president/vice president.

Apart from Will Smith

[Forward Union]

I duno abotu vice presidency but shes def fit.

[F9]

I dont know if she is ready or not,and what ready implies but i can certain say that seeing that woman in such positions only sadness and madness can offer me!But everyone offers my madness when he "fights" to be a president or something "higher" than others!

Fuserg9:star:

[pusher robot]

She's qualified to be vice president, a job that has no real duties or skill requirements.

She's not very qualified to be president - but on the other hand, she's at very least as qualified as Obama.

A lot of her appeal is as a populist candidate - she's one of the few candidates for high office not to be an ivy-league-educated washington insider. Elite-looking Ivy Leaguers are a bit unpopular at this time.

[pusher robot]

She said in her speech, "What does Obama want to accomplish after he's done healing the world?". I'm thinking why is that such a shit thing to want to do?

I'm guessing that she wasn't implying that "healing the world" is bad, but rather that Obama is suffering from delusions of grandeur if he thinks that he personally can accomplish that.

[Killfacer]

She looks like a fucking freak, dont knowwhy everyone keeps saying she fit. Anyway, nobody who calls their children Bristol and Track is fit to hold any kind of office, let alone vice president.

[Jazzratt]

Given the calibre of president America tends to elect I'd say she's eminently qualified, but considering it's for a role in which a baboon on crack is probably overqualified that isn't saying much.

EDIT: As for the role she will fill until McCain finally drifts off this mortal coil, well I've taken antibiotics for things that could fill that role.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

She's not very qualified to be president - but on the other hand, she's at very least as qualified as Obama.

What?! She was Governor of a state which has less people than Obama's neighborhood.

But yes, neither is all that experienced. Biden is much more qualified to be on the other side of the ticket.


A lot of her appeal is as a populist candidate - she's one of the few candidates for high office not to be an ivy-league-educated washington insider. Elite-looking Ivy Leaguers are a bit unpopular at this time.

That's too bad. I'm hopeful Obama is an elitist, one of the intelligentsia. I'm sick and tired of every President being a shitkicker from the south.

[mykittyhasaboner]

I think she is one of the most pathetic human beings that has ever lived.

[pusher robot]

What?! She was Governor of a state which has less people than Obama's neighborhood.

But Obama wasn't the governor of that neighborhood. He has never been chief executive of anything, ever. So I think they're about equal.


That's too bad. I'm hopeful Obama is an elitist, one of the intelligentsia. I'm sick and tired of every President being a shitkicker from the south.

Ugh, like we've had one. Bush was a Harvard MBA. You don't think he's really Texan, do you? I think it's disgusting how many attacks on Palin are transparently classist - she's not from the upper class, she's not one of the privileged Ivy Leaguers. She's a peasant! She's not fit to rule!

[Qwerty Dvorak]

[quote=pusher robot;1268427]But Obama wasn't the governor of that neighborhood. He has never been chief executive of anything, ever. So I think they're about equal.
[quote]
How does that make them equal?

[Bud Struggle]

Ugh, like we've had one. Bush was a Harvard MBA. AB Yale, a little of something--and Bush was Skull and Bones--it was like being the son of a duke in England.


I think it's disgusting how many attacks on Palin are transparently classist - she's not from the upper class, she's not one of the privileged Ivy Leaguers. She's a peasant! She's not fit to rule!

Agreed. Maybe not fit to rule--but who the hell is? She's a member of the proletariat--unfinishes, crude, rude and totally indifferent to class warfare.

She's one of you guys. Maybe wrongly informed--but she's your sister in the class struggle.

[Jazzratt]

She's one of you guys. Maybe wrongly informed--but she's your sister in the class struggle.

Funny kind of sister in class stuggle that has 1.5 million dollars personal assets. Her folksy woman of the people image is just smoke and mirrors.

[Comrada J]

If George Bush was president for 8 years then I can't see what's stoping Palin.

[Wanted Man]

Funny kind of sister in class stuggle that has 1.5 million dollars personal assets. Her folksy woman of the people image is just smoke and mirrors.
Yeah, Sarah Palin is one of us, I also love to go on $150,000 shopping sprees... And yes, it's irrelevant and petty. And no, it's not as if McCain and Obama shop at the Men's Wearhouse. But the GOP brought it upon themselves by going on about Michelle Obama's $500 room service, John Edwards' $100 haircut, Hillary's pantsuits, etc.

[Dejavu]

What does it mean to be 'qualified' for president? Is there some kind of objective criteria that she's not meeting? What is she being compared to? I didn't think the presidency was at all about 'qualifications' whatever that means. I mean just about every president I could think of in times past wasn't much brighter than Palin. But is intelligence/wisdom even a criteria? In this mass franchise democracy how is it even possible to know?

[Lenin's Law]

Republicans spent more than $150,000 on Sarah Palin's clothes

The Republicans have spent more than $150,000 (£92,000) on clothes and accessories for Sarah Palin and her family since she was chosen as the vice-presidential candidate in August.

By Tom Leonard in New York
Last Updated: 7:53AM BST 23 Oct 2008

Previous1 of 3 ImagesNext Sarah Palin's bills for campaign accessories include a $75,000 shopping trip Photo: AP
Palin dressed warmly for an appearance at an NHL game Photo: REUTERS
Palin with her son Trig. The campaign bills include $295 at an upmarket baby store Photo: AP
Questions over the legality of Mrs Palin's wardrobe bill – paid for out of campaign donations – prompted her spokesman yesterday to say that the clothes would not be kept but donated to charity.

According to financial records obtained by Politico.com, a US politics website, the fashion spending spree started in early September.

The spending on so-called "campaign accessories" included bills from the fashion chain Saks Fifth Avenue in St Louis and New York that came to a total of $49,425.

There were also a couple of hefty splurges at another expensive fashion store, Neiman Marcus, in Minneapolis, including one worth more than $75,000.

The Republican National Committee also spent $44,716 on Mrs Palin's hair and make-up in September after reporting no such costs in August.

The rest of the Palin family made do on rather less. Around $295 was spent at Pacifier, an upmarket baby store, and just under $5,000 at Atelier, an expensive men's clothes shop.

The legality of such expenditure was questioned by campaign finance experts who cited the Federal Election Commission's opposition to campaign money being used to buy items for personal use.

Federal campaign finance law prohibits the use of campaign funds for personal use, which it defines as any expense "that would exist irrespective of the candidate's campaign or duties as a federal officeholder".

After initially refusing to discuss the spending, the McCain campaign issued a new statement as criticism mounted.

"With all the important issues facing the country right now, it's remarkable that we're spending time talking about pantsuits and blouses," said a McCain spokesman.

"It was always the intent that the clothing go to a charitable purpose after the campaign."

Tax experts said Mrs Palin will be liable to tax on the clothes, even if she eventually gives them away.

Excessive primping and preening by presidential candidates is fraught with risk. John Edwards was lambasted over his $400 hair cuts in 2007 as was John McCain over his $520 Ferragamo shoes.

In 2006, Hillary Clinton was teased after she spent $3,000 for two sessions at the hairdressers

While this money is being spent pointlessly they are still reluctant to help the poor.

This is in fact rather pointless as well. 150K will do next to nothing to assist the much more fundamental issues surrounding the economy. Furthermore, compared to Palin's finances (which to be fair, she is the most financially modest of the major candidates running for Pres and VP...though admittedly this isn't saying much) And it's not as if the Dems don't spend lavishly on private jets, expensive suits, Hollywood/Beverly Hills parties etc. Kerry and Kennedy, both liberal Democrats are the wealthiest members of the senate. Millionaire Joe Biden spent a whopping 3,000 on charity.

The point isn't to nitpick on someone's wardrobe and then ask "why don't use that to help the poor!??!?" in a somewhat idealist fashion but to demand the commanding heights of the economy be nationalized for the benefit of the common good, along with a heavy progressive tax that transfers wealth from a decadent, parasitic wealthy layer of society to the vast majority.

[graffic]

She is very hot. Seeing her in such a powerful position making humanity crushing decisions would be a definite turn on..

However, more importantly I don't think she's got the intellect or broad understanding of the world to fulfill the job properly.

[Incendiarism]

Millionaire Joe Biden spent a whopping 3,000 on charity.

In his defense, don't people receive tax breaks donating a certain set amount to charity? Whatever, in any case both parties are full of crap. :cool:

[Comrade B]

But Obama wasn't the governor of that neighborhood. He has never been chief executive of anything, ever. So I think they're about equal.
She was governor of a socialized oil company better known as Alaska for under 2 years and mayor of a town of under 3000.

I may not like Obama fully, but he is not as inexperienced as people pretend

[La Comédie Noire]

She can be the banker in all presidential Monopoly games, but that's about it.

[Faction2008]

This is in fact rather pointless as well. 150K will do next to nothing to assist the much more fundamental issues surrounding the economy. It's not so much that the money wouldn't make such much of a difference to economy but rather the principle in it. There are people in America suffering and living on welfare while she without any guilt happily spends the average of 4-5 salaries combined in order to buy material to wear.
And it's not as if the Dems don't spend lavishly on private jets, expensive suits, Hollywood/Beverly Hills parties etc. Kerry and Kennedy, both liberal Democrats are the wealthiest members of the senate. Are you repling to an imaginery post where I defended the democrats?

Millionaire Joe Biden spent a whopping 3,000 on charity. okay.


The point isn't to nitpick on someone's wardrobe and then ask "why don't use that to help the poor!??!?" in a somewhat idealist fashion but to demand the commanding heights of the economy be nationalized for the benefit of the common good, along with a heavy progressive tax that transfers wealth from a decadent, parasitic wealthy layer of society to the vast majority. I wasn't even refering to the economy but rather that I hate consumerism and pointless spending. There's some places in the US where you can buy a home for that sort of money.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Sarah Palin isn't fit to pick up my dry cleaning.

[Madvillainy]

She is an unbearable human being.

[pusher robot]

However, more importantly I don't think she's got the intellect or broad understanding of the world to fulfill the job properly.Really? What is your basis for concluding this?


She is an unbearable human being.I just don't understand this hatred. It's frightening.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

She's fit to do the vice president's laundr...

*runs away*

[Led Zeppelin]

I just don't understand this hatred. It's frightening.

Yeah? Watch some footage of the scum that show up at Palin's rallies and support her, and also ask themselves; "Who is Obama?":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vagD-4AH4Vc

Now that's frightening.

[Drace]

I rather have Tina Fey over Palin.


Yeah? Watch some footage of the scum that show up at Palin's rallies and support her, and also ask themselves; "Who is Obama?":

LOL. "SOCIALIST!! COMMUNIST!!"

[Pogue]

"Is Sarah Palin fit?"

[mykittyhasaboner]

Yeah? Watch some footage of the scum that show up at Palin's rallies and support her, and also ask themselves; "Who is Obama?":

vagD-4AH4Vc

Now that's frightening.

That truly is frightening, it makes me sick. except for the guy at 1:35, he was funny.

[Trystan]

Of course she's fit to be VP. She can see Russia from Alaska, you know. How many of you can claim to have such experience?

[Trystan]

Well, she's ready for the "Revolution!" (And not of the Commies side! :D)

http://scottthong.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/sarahpalinrifle.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3161/2814649424_e823955212.jpg?v=0

Oh, and are your Commie women this fit? :D

I actually think Hillary is more attractive. I'd love to be her intern.

[Jazzratt]

It's unfair to describe Palin as unfit for vice presidency or even presidency. Hell it's unfair to describe my shoes as unfit for those jobs, Palin is at least (presumably) sapient.

Personally she seems to me to be just another gaff-prone type along the lines of GWB who's either playing up a folksy image and milking it for all it's worth or simply has trouble expressing herself for whatever reason. What's terrifying about her, though, is her outright batshit beliefs on just about everything - it's like she's decided to run as the "greater of two evils" candidate and turn the "evil" up to 11.

[Dust Bunnies]

I don't think if she's ready, but damn she is hot enough.

[Comrade B]

I honestly think she is totally unattractive.
Onto the important topic,
Do you REALLY REALLY think, that if the 73 year old John McCain were to be like the average American and die at the age of 75, Sarah Palin could actually in all honesty, lead the country in a manner that would not make anything drastically worse than it already is?

[jake williams]

Of course she's fit to be VP. She can see Russia from Alaska, you know. How many of you can claim to have such experience?
When I was from about 3-7 I lived in (my mom's) student housing and a lot of my neighbours were Chinese or Muslim or whatever. UN HERE I COME! Dibs Secretary General. I have diplomacy experience.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Of course she's fit to be VP. She can see Russia from Alaska, you know. How many of you can claim to have such experience?

The only place in Alaska where you can clearly see Russia is on the Diomede Islands, and I'm fairly sure that Palin hasn't been there.

[Comrade B]

The only place in Alaska where you can clearly see Russia is on the Diomede Islands, and I'm fairly sure that Palin hasn't been there.
Also fairly sure that Putin hasn't paid a visit to the furthest east (west?) point of Russia recently... nor has anyone...

[RebelDog]

I don't really know what 'fit' means in this context. They have so many advisers, aides, speechwriters etc that it would be just more of the same really. Its like what Chomsky said about Reagan. He was literary an actor and he was playing a part and he had no real idea about the polices he was regurgitating at the podium. Is George Bush Junior 'fit'? He has basically done what the US business class wants and shown his dedication to their domestic and international dominance. In that regard he could be regarded as having 'done a good job'. The US political system has almost zero scope for anything else, as does the British system to all intents and purposes. I'm sure (should Palin find herself in power) she will help manage the collective affairs of the rich and powerful with aplomb, ruthlessness, and the obligatory disregard for simple human decency and empathy that all masters require of their managers. Its the same mind-numbing, real issues dodging, pointless farce acted out over and again, decade after the decade, and people still buy tickets.

[Reclaimed Dasein]

She's hardly fit to be the bad joke she is.

[Elway]

She's hardly fit to be the bad joke she is.

Flawless comment. Thanks!

Re: Is Sarah Palin fit to be vicepresident/president?

Sarah Palin isn't fit to organize a children's ping pong tournament!

[Bud Struggle]

The only place in Alaska where you can clearly see Russia is on the Diomede Islands, and I'm fairly sure that Palin hasn't been there.

Isn't her husband a "brother" fisherman?

[Os Cangaceiros]

Isn't her husband a "brother" fisherman?

She's a fisherman, too, in Bristol Bay. Home of the last great salmon run on Earth. Her husband is a commercial fisherman, but
I think that he makes most of his money from his involvement in BP.

A lot of the fishermen that I know were voting for her when she first ran, because her platform and record suggested that she would be a "friend of the fisherman". After Frank Murkowski, who was universally despised, a lot of people were willing to vote for just about anyone.

[FlamingChainsaws]

She's completely incompetent, but she's a possible vpilf.

[Wanted Man]

What exactly is supposed to be 'hot' about her in any way? She just about embodies the hypocritical values of conservative America: speaking publicly about morality and family values, while simultaneously appealing to some very unchristian urges ("I'd do her!").

[Revy]

I voted "Yes" in that she meets the requirements to be both VP and Prez.

Is Biden ready to be Vice President? He's a capitalist imperialist.

I think the whole anti-Palin thing is kinda like anybody but Bush. People are going to vote for Obama just because they don't want President Palin. I don't care either way. I'm going to be building socialism.

[Revy]

The only place in Alaska where you can clearly see Russia is on the Diomede Islands, and I'm fairly sure that Palin hasn't been there.

It's actually Russia's Big Diomede Island that you can see. So technically, one can see "Russia". if we are talking about from each land mass, no.

[Revy]

Well, she's ready for the "Revolution!" (And not of the Commies side! :D)

http://scottthong.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/sarahpalinrifle.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3161/2814649424_e823955212.jpg?v=0

Oh, and are your Commie women this fit? :D

This is Marylou Cabral.

http://www.pslweb.org/images/content/pagebuilder/22192.jpg

I honestly can't see how Palin is hotter than this.

[Os Cangaceiros]

It's actually Russia's Big Diomede Island that you can see. So technically, one can see "Russia". if we are talking about from each land mass, no.

My point still stands, though, because I never specified if I meant continental Eastern Russia. :lol:

It almost looks like you can see Russia from Gambell...I've never been there, though.

[Plagueround]

Oh, and are your Commie women this fit? http://www.revleft.com/vb/../revleft/smilies/biggrin.gif

While I generally don't like to participate in alpha male chestbeating about "our women" as if they are some sort of property, I can safely say every woman I've seen post a picture in the CC is more attractive than Sarah Palin. Hell, some of the men are too. :lol:

[Jazzratt]

While I generally don't like to participate in alpha male chestbeating about "our women" as if they are some sort of property, I can safely say every woman I've seen post a picture in the CC is more attractive than Sarah Palin. Hell, some of the men are too. :lol:

We vet our CC members based on how good looking they are, surely as a CC member you were made aware of this?!

[Sentinel]

Everyone, this is a serious, political discussion forum. In other words, quit posting the photoshopped images of Palin wearing a bikini in this thread.

I have already trashed such posts from here once before, and this is the last warning.

Next time warning points will be issued.

[Bud Struggle]

That was me. I apologize.

[The Feral Underclass]

I'm a hockey mom.

[Os Cangaceiros]

So you're a bulldog with lipstick?

Interesting.

[Svante]

Sarah Palin i s ugly *****.she and Mccain will contiinue George Bush politique.i hope Barack Obama he win.:thumbup:

[Killfacer]

Sarah Palin i s ugly *****.she and Mccain will contiinue George Bush politique.i hope Barack Obama he win.:thumbup:


Oh dear.

[Bud Struggle]

Sarah Palin i s ugly *****.she and Mccain will contiinue George Bush politique.i hope Barack Obama he win.:thumbup:

As de great Marley said it: No Woman, No Cry! :lol:

[AAFCE]

No.

Never.

[Dimentio]

She and Obama has about the same amount of political experience, while she has slightly more political experience. The difference is that Palin appears to be a bigotted, narrow-minded, religious fundamentalist.

Given that, I don't think that if McCain won and died during the term, that she would implement even 5% of her idiocy potential. But her narrow-mindedness and provincialism would have made her an easy prey for advisors.

Obama has some positive personal traits, namely that he is cosmopolitan, has a university education with good grades (he was the editor of the Harvard Law Journal).

Obama was forced to fight the entire democratic establishment in the primaries, and had zero resources at the beginning. That he has won the elections despite that he has several obvious disadvantages speak to his favor (his radical background, his skin colour). He is a savvy politician, and a person who is known to not make decisions before evaluating several options.

Sarah Palin would never have become a presidential candidate without her being chosen by John McCain. She would have got fewer primary votes than Huckabee.

That judgement leads me to the conclusion that Obama is a better choice than Palin, if we should make choices between right-wing politicians.