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Dimentio
19th October 2008, 13:11
The Russian Revolution was caused by black magic, because of Grigorij Rasputin's hate for the Romanovs. Nicholas II was a good ruler and everything was just beautiful and perfect in Imperial Russia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-KjJqop_tE&feature=related

I wonder how much this will influence the perception which children have over the reason why the Russians overthrew the monarchy.

When you were kids, and you saw for example a Disney movie with a clear political message, could you say it affected the values you held then?

I know for example that the Reason institute (a conservative think tank) has a list on Disney movies where they classify them over their attitude to private property (The Lion King got a positive score while Pocahontas got a negative score).

JimmyJazz
19th October 2008, 19:56
I know for example that the Reason institute (a conservative think tank) has a list on Disney movies where they classify them over their attitude to private property (The Lion King got a positive score while Pocahontas got a negative score).

That is fucking hilarious. What did Robin Hood get? :lol:

revolution inaction
19th October 2008, 20:04
I know for example that the Reason institute (a conservative think tank) has a list on Disney movies where they classify them over their attitude to private property (The Lion King got a positive score while Pocahontas got a negative score).

have you got a link?

I remember seeing something where one of the british socialist parties had done reviews of films based on how marxist they where, cant remember where to find it right now though.

revolution inaction
19th October 2008, 21:27
I can't find what I was looking for, but here's some maoist film reviews http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/movies/index.html

from their review of dune

...
MIM encourages readers to hear "Iraq," when
thinking of the planet where the fighting happens-
-"Arrakis." The fighting over "spice" is fighting
over oil and "desert power" has to do with the
military strength of Mideast peoples. In both
films, there is no mistaking that the power of the
throne on Arrakis stems from the control of oil
and the potential ability to blow it up and starve
the whole universe of this irreplaceable
commodity.

Even containing a discussion of suicide bombers,
"Dune" is very contemporary in its overtones. The
political differences in the two versions reflect
approximately the strategic differences in outlook
of U.$. imperialism in 1984 and 2000. The U.$.
rulers fancy themselves the rightful rulers of the
Mideast, bringing progress to the oppressed people
there who rose up to put them on the throne.
Such is the interpretation of Afghanistan today.
MIM says the Amerikkkans should learn that they
are dreaming and such dreams do not even belong in
science-fiction movies.

Os Cangaceiros
19th October 2008, 22:03
MIM is always good for a LOL.

Dimentio
19th October 2008, 22:29
I can't find what I was looking for, but here's some maoist film reviews http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/movies/index.html

from their review of dune

The Dune is actually one of the few fantasy/sci-fi worlds which is essentially islamic and anti-western. The religion of the Fremen is heavily influenced by Shia Islam.

Dimentio
19th October 2008, 22:42
http://volokh.com/sasha/quasimod.html

Reclaimed Dasein
10th November 2008, 03:42
The Russian Revolution was caused by black magic, because of Grigorij Rasputin's hate for the Romanovs. Nicholas II was a good ruler and everything was just beautiful and perfect in Imperial Russia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-KjJqop_tE&feature=related

I wonder how much this will influence the perception which children have over the reason why the Russians overthrew the monarchy.

When you were kids, and you saw for example a Disney movie with a clear political message, could you say it affected the values you held then?

I know for example that the Reason institute (a conservative think tank) has a list on Disney movies where they classify them over their attitude to private property (The Lion King got a positive score while Pocahontas got a negative score).

I heard that they did research to make the hero as attractive to women as possible, but I can't be sure. It's all very annoying anyway.

Foldered
10th November 2008, 05:05
The Russian Revolution was caused by black magic, because of Grigorij Rasputin's hate for the Romanovs. Nicholas II was a good ruler and everything was just beautiful and perfect in Imperial Russia.
You mean it wasn't black magic...?;)




I wonder how much this will influence the perception which children have over the reason why the Russians overthrew the monarchy.


I imagine they will think the revolution had entirely evil foundations, etc. Which, of course, is ridiculous.

Dust Bunnies
16th November 2008, 17:41
I always liked Lion King more than Anastasia, it just collects dust ;)

Wanted Man
16th November 2008, 23:04
The Russian Revolution was caused by black magic, because of Grigorij Rasputin's hate for the Romanovs. Nicholas II was a good ruler and everything was just beautiful and perfect in Imperial Russia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-KjJqop_tE&feature=related

I wonder how much this will influence the perception which children have over the reason why the Russians overthrew the monarchy.
Wow, that's fucking pathetic. I do not endorse posting stupid comments on Youtube (there are too many already), but maybe someone could say something like: "The Reds did the world a great favour by wiping out those stuffy aristocrats and their inbred shit children."

Anyway, I never saw this film. I was always a Disney loyalist.


When you were kids, and you saw for example a Disney movie with a clear political message, could you say it affected the values you held then?
I do remember wondering if Aladdin, disguised as Prince Ali, really deserved having all the people of Agrabah kneeling before him. That snot-nosed little shit.