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spartan
18th October 2008, 23:41
Friends and foes have called Cuba many things - a progressive beacon, a quixotic underdog, an oppressive tyranny - but no one has called it lucky, until now.

Mother nature, it emerged this week, appears to have blessed the island with enough oil reserves to vault it into the ranks of energy powers. The government announced there may be more than 20bn barrels of recoverable oil in offshore fields in Cuba's share of the Gulf of Mexico, more than twice the previous estimate.

If confirmed, it puts Cuba's reserves on par with those of the US and into the world's top 20. Drilling is expected to start next year by Cuba's state oil company Cubapetroleo, or Cupet.

"It would change their whole equation. The government would have more money and no longer be dependent on foreign oil," said Kirby Jones, founder of the Washington-based US-Cuba Trade Association. "It could join the club of oil exporting nations."

"We have more data. I'm almost certain that if they ask for all the data we have, (their estimate) is going to grow considerably," said Cupet's exploration manager, Rafael Tenreyro Perez.

Havana based its dramatically higher estimate mainly on comparisons with oil output from similar geological structures off the coasts of Mexico and the US. Cuba's undersea geology was "very similar" to Mexico's giant Cantarell oil field in the Bay of Campeche, said Tenreyro.

A consortium of companies led by Spain's Repsol had tested wells and were expected to begin drilling the first production well in mid-2009, and possibly several more later in the year, he said.

Cuba currently produces about 60,000 barrels of oil daily, covering almost half of its needs, and imports the rest from Venezuela in return for Cuban doctors and sports instructors. Even that barter system puts a strain on an impoverished economy in which Cubans earn an average monthly salary of $20.

Subsidised grocery staples, health care and education help make ends meet but an old joke - that the three biggest failings of the revolution are breakfast, lunch and dinner - still does the rounds. Last month hardships were compounded by tropical storms that shredded crops and devastated coastal towns.

"This news about the oil reserves could not have come at a better time for the regime," said Jonathan Benjamin-Alvarado, a Cuba energy specialist at the University of Nebraska.

However there is little prospect of Cuba becoming a communist version of Kuwait. Its oil is more than a mile deep under the ocean and difficult and expensive to extract. The four-decade-old US economic embargo prevents several of Cuba's potential oil partners - notably Brazil, Norway and Spain - from using valuable first-generation technology.

"You're looking at three to five years minimum before any meaningful returns," said Benjamin-Alvarado.

Even so, Cuba is a master at stretching resources. President Raul Castro, who took over from brother Fidel, has promised to deliver improvements to daily life to shore up the legitimacy of the revolution as it approaches its 50th anniversary.

Cuba's unexpected arrival into the big oil league could increase pressure on the next administration to loosen the embargo to let US oil companies participate in the bonanza and reduce US dependency on the middle east, said Jones. "Up until now the embargo did not really impact on us in a substantive, strategic way. Oil is different. It's something we need and want."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/18/cuban-oil

Expect either another Bay of Pigs invasion or America suddenly dropping the trade embargo.:rolleyes:

ashaman1324
19th October 2008, 16:15
good for them:)

Incendiarism
19th October 2008, 16:24
Nice, I could see this dissolving some trade barriers. If it yields positive results for the people than this is a great thing.

Trystan
19th October 2008, 16:25
Interesting development.

zimmerwald1915
19th October 2008, 23:51
fascinating...

RedScare
20th October 2008, 00:18
Depends on where the money goes. Oil has helped Venezuela, but I'd hate to see Cuba do what Nigeria did with it's oil.

KurtFF8
20th October 2008, 00:34
Let's hope the next headline we see isn't "United States intelligence finds Cuba has WMDs"

RedScare, could you elaborate the Nigeria point?

RedScare
20th October 2008, 01:15
Let's hope the next headline we see isn't "United States intelligence finds Cuba has WMDs"

RedScare, could you elaborate the Nigeria point?
They allowed the likes of Exxon and Shell in, and now all the wealth generated by the oil doesn't touch the Niger delta. Things have gotten so bad that a few month ago a small rebel group started some hit and run stuff, and blowing things up.


I'd include the links to some BBC stories, but I don't have 25 posts, so it won't let me.

bretty
20th October 2008, 01:23
This could be a good thing. Or it could, as mentioned with the case of Nigeria, be a bad thing. Historically nations with an abundance of a natural resource in the middle east and Africa create the workings of a rentier state. A state which relies heavily on the export of a natural resource. However Cuba's state is much different then those of the middle east and Africa.

To elaborate on the Nigerian point. Rentier states is a state which relies almost solely on the export of a natural resource and therefore specific symptoms become dominant in the society and state:
- expanded bureaucracy
- no taxation, no representation
- repression
- state requires no taxes and therefore becomes a parasitic state
- less emphasis on social programs and infrastructure, more white elephant projects
- ethnic & social conflict and a high probability of civil war.
- the effect of rent seeking, where the state becomes a position holding the rentier space(those commodities valued and the means of extraction)
and therefore several groups in turn contest that space.

There are other more detailed symptoms. However like I said, Africa & the middle east are much different then Cuba's state.

Sendo
20th October 2008, 01:33
I see little good coming from this. As hypocritical as it seems to live in a First World country that benefits from oil (despite my attempts to avoid plastic, consumerism, and economizing my travel), every new discovery of oil puts off a green future.

I think the best use for oil will be to use it in place of coal plants and use the electricity it makes for super efficient electric busses and the like.

I also worry that this means a US invasion has become slightly more likely to happen. They've got a leftist govt setting a good example (a crime!) and now they have natural resources to exploit. If I'm not mistaken that's two grounds for a US invasion. Thankfully for them, there isn't enough political capital to launch one for some time. I don't think people would stand for it. But if the USA takes on a more and more authoritarian direction, it could happen. Keep your eyes peeled for any internal rabble or instability or weakness on Cuba's part. This is of course a what if? scenario involving a descent into full fascism that would take some five years or so. I don't think it will happen though.

Saorsa
20th October 2008, 01:43
The attacks carried out by MEND (Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta) have been going on for some time now, more than a few months. The key difference between Cuba and Nigeria is that Nigeria is a neo-colony whereas Cuba is a socialist country.

Labor Shall Rule
20th October 2008, 02:00
Good news for Cuba.

The U.S. is losin' it in Latin America! It's all unraveling!

Comrada J
20th October 2008, 02:49
It's good news, and they deserve it after the hurricane. But with an oil-hungry america in recession...well no need to state the obvious. Nevertheless, the future of the Americas will be interesting.

magnus
20th October 2008, 03:05
This is great news.

This can create the material conditions for a genuine workers democracy!