Does Justicialista, Sanmin Zuyi & Bolivarism is socialism?

[maxham]

In Latin America (such As Argentina, & Bolivia), France, & ROC, they were based on the "cocktail" ideology? Does centrism can also be considered as socialism or not?

[Yehuda Stern]

It depends on how you define socialism and what it means to you that a political current is socialist. I would say that socialism means a society without private property, where the producers enjoy the fruits of their production (there are no workers under socialism, inasmuch as the working class is bound with the capitalist mode of production). A socialist would be a person advocating such a society.

Centrism is a complex phenomenon - certainly there are many centrists who truly believe in Marxism and who genuinely want socialism, but in the end centrist groups are a fetter on the revolution and their social role is to block to development of class consciousness in the working class.

As for Justicialista, Bolivarianism etc., none of these currents are socialist. They are left-populist, which means that they use "poor vs. rich" style rhetoric to attract mass support, especially from more politically backwards workers and peasants. They very often speak of socialism, but end up either suppressing the workers or preparing their suppression at the hands of the ruling class (often it's both: they oppress the more militant workers, thus demoralizing their supporters and allowing right-wing military leaders to overthrow them).

[Magdalen]

they oppress the more militant workers, thus demoralizing their supporters and allowing right-wing military leaders to overthrow them

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you therefore implying that, for example, it was Salvador Allende's fault that his Popular Unity government was overthrown by Pinochet's forces in the US-backed coup of 1973?

[Yehuda Stern]

Well, first and foremost to blame is the Chilean ruling class and their imperialist backers. But as far as dangers from within go, yes, I think Allende has a great part of the responsibility for the rise of Pinochet (including, for example, making him commander in chief of the army).