Where's the party in opposition to capitali$m in Canada?

[Die Neue Zeit]

I know this thread's a bit late, given that our elections have just passed, and I apologize for parroting R_P_A_S's excellent thread, but for some reason the more "left-wing" Canada is LESS conducive to class-strugglist leftist political activity (BTW, congrats to the M-L party getting more votes than the official CP). Thoughts?

[jake williams]

Well I will say that the ML party just ran way more candidates than the CPC, but none of them as far as I know were very active. I've never met or even seen the ML candidate who ran here, ever, and he's run in at least three or four elections. No one knew who he was, or knows who he is. But he gets votes because he at least in the narrow sense exists. I think the CPC ran about 30ish candidates, whereas I'm thinking the ML ran almost a full set.

Ignoring that drivel though. I'm not entirely sure what you mean about "the more 'left-wing' Canada is LESS conducive to class-strugglist leftist political activity". Could you clarify a bit?

[Die Neue Zeit]

^^^ Thanks for clarifying about the candidacies. Organizationally speaking, there isn't a Canadian equivalent to something like the multi-tendency SPUSA.

[Now, I'm not fawning over the SPUSA, because it seems to accept non-class-strugglist reformists (even if they're in a minute minority at the moment :lol: ). Just as there are non-class-strugglist revolutionaries (like the old "propagandists of the deed"), there are class-strugglist, "orange" reformists (like the pre-liquidationist Mensheviks).]

The Socialist Project is too content to act as a glorified think tank with trade union activity, and is programmatically behind the times.

[jake williams]

^^^ Thanks for clarifying about the candidacies. Organizationally speaking, there isn't a Canadian equivalent to something like the multi-tendency SPUSA.
I think I sort of see what you mean, and in that sense I think a big part of the reason is that it's just a smaller country, and so you don't really have the numbers to do the sorts of things the SPUSA does. It's sort of a quantitative change leading to qualitative change thing.

[R_P_A_S]

hahaha. i don't mind! its a valid question..

[Revy]

Here is a good list (http://www.broadleft.org/ca.htm). It shows all the left parties, so a few of them may not be socialist. But many of them are. Also, many of them aren't active anymore.

Personally, I'm a fan of the New Socialist Group (http://newsocialist.org/).

[Charles Xavier]

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[Die Neue Zeit]

^^^ So why don't either of you (parties) raise the 32-hour workweek as your primary immediate demand and consider post-parliamentary participatory democracy? :(

[Charles Xavier]

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[Die Neue Zeit]

Same thread, different board:

http://www.rabble.ca/babble/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=008084