US communists say their time has come

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US communists say their time has come

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2 days ago
NEW YORK (AFP) — A rare bird in the political world, the US Communist Party is feeling rather smug in these days of capitalist turmoil.
At the party's New York headquarters on 23rd Street in Manhattan, regional party chairman Libero Della Piana, 36, laid out why he thinks Marxist-Leninism's time has finally come.
"We are very excited, we feel that we are at a turning point," Della Piana, an imposing half-Italian, half-African American with a pony tail, told AFP.
"We can afford to be less on the defensive for the first time since Ronald Reagan, and we can say our word in rebuilding America on a new basis, rebuilding a better world, instead of one based on the greed of the few."
The US Communist Party was founded in 1919 and never really took off. It was ostracized during the Cold War and members faced discrimination, even firing from their work, during the anti-Communist drive of the 1950s.
Today, the party claims to have 3,000 to 3,500 members -- seemingly not a threat to the giant Democratic and Republican parties contesting next month's White House election.
But American communists think that the collapse of Wall Street and huge disillusionment among the public with the economy has put them on a roll.
"We receive more and more phone calls, we have more inquiries from people, we see an increase in interest," Della Piana said. "We hope to be part of the discussion. I can see a role for the Communist Party in this next period."
"The crisis' number one lesson: the market cannot regulate itself," he said. "Otherwise it goes out of control."
Communist youth coordinator Erica Smiley, 28, said "the major issues for the young are: peace, jobs, health care, education, and we provide them with answers."
Whether the communists will be able to deliver remains open to question.
One plus is that their recently renovated New York headquarters, featuring the obligatory tomes of Lenin and Marx, is prime real estate -- a serious and very capitalist nest egg.
But few people were about during a visit by AFP on Monday and the atmosphere was collegial and slightly sleepy, rather than revolutionary.
"They are all out working to get people to vote," explained Bill Davis, 65, who has been a faithful member for 37 years.
There is no communist running for the White House and the Communist Party does not endorse Democrat Barack Obama.
Yet many staff here wore his picture on lapel buttons, while Republican John McCain was relegated to a box of tissues -- the tissues being pulled through his mouth.

[Red October]

The CPUSA is a joke and everyone in the revolutionary left knows it. They may as well dissolve into the left wing of the democratic party. I don't know anyone who takes them seriously.

[Comrade Looter]

Yea, at a protest in New York in 2006, I saw they had a little section off to the side where the "US Communists" were at, I went to talk with them just to get their standpoint and they were a bunch of fucking kids that didn't know shit and were brainwashed by CPUSA propaganda, they couldn't even hold a conversation - There group-leader was even more of a dumbass. They're a fucking joke.

[Drace]

3500 members?
Thats a joke itself.

300 million in America, 3500 are in the Communist Party...
Yea revolution...ehh why don't we have a party instead...

[Dr Mindbender]

just because capitalism is scoring own goals left right and centre doesnt meant the CPUSA is home and dry.

The way i see it it's still anyones game and we must be vigilant . Last depression it was the nazis who got the cookies not us.

[Dr Mindbender]

3500 members?
Thats a joke itself.

300 million in America, 3500 are in the Communist Party...
Yea revolution...ehh why don't we have a party instead...

out of interest how many members does the American nazi party have?

[Drace]

out of interest how many members does the American nazi party have?

No idea.
I tried going on their site for a number but all I found is bunch of crazy loony shit.

[Dr Mindbender]

No idea.
I tried going on their site for a number but all I found is bunch of crazy loony shit.

they're probably too embaressed to say :)

At least the CPUSA's number is large enough to be honest about it which is a good sign.

[Mr. Path-e-fist]

No idea.
I tried going on their site for a number but all I found is bunch of crazy loony shit.Sounds good, Lets see that!

[Drace]

Their whole front page:


Today, according to the latest U.S. Census - only 23% of the American population under the age of 18 is WHITE. Already, four U.S. states are MAJORITY NON-WHITE, and 10% of all counties in America are MAJORITY NON-WHITE. World-wide, White women of child-bearing age comprise only 3% of the earth's population. Do these FACTS disturb you? They should.

Currently, America has an estimated 20 MILLION brown, mestizo ILLEGAL ALIENS who have INVADED OUR NATION - this evil, corrupt Judeo-Capitalist system - where basically 3% of the population, control 85% of the nation's wealth, are demanding and will eventually grant "amnesty" to these foreigners. Why?

Because they want a cheap, slave-like work force - where decent wages and benefits will be a thing of the past. All in the name of selfishness and greed. Every year, our White children's expected life-style - is declining - compared to the previous generations. Once these illegals ARE granted "citizenship", by LAW - they are allowed to bring into our country - ALL their "extended families". This means not only their usual very LARGE amount of children - but, mom, pop, grandma, grandpa and who have you.

By 2025 - given only CURRENT population trends, coupled with this "amnesty" - WHITE AMERICA will be a total MINORITY in a nation that WAS ONCE THEIR BIRTHRIGHT! Does this please you? "HOW" do you think a White MINORITY will be TREATED - once it's an established fact? Do you think that life for your children, and their children will be "business as usual"?

If you are tired of being blamed for all the world's problems - simply because you are White. If you are fed up with a government that is more concerned about everyone and everything on this planet - EXCEPT the well-being of the people who FOUNDED and BUILT America - the WHITE WORKING CLASS population, and are intelligent and clear-sighted enough to see REALITY when it stares you in the face - JOIN WITH US.

American National Socialists are NOT "monsters" as portrayed by the systems controlled media - we are White men and women who care deeply for the future of our children in a decadent, corrupt world gone mad. A world where decency is "wrong" - and "perversion" is more than "acceptable" - why, it's a preferred "lifestyle choice"!

National Socialists reject the materialist chains that bind the minds of so many, and realize that there IS more to life than acquiring vast amounts of high-interest debt - in the mad race to gather together like pack-rats, more and more plastic junk made in China.

To a National Socialist, things like PRIDE, HONOR, LOYALTY, COURAGE, DISCIPLINE, and MORALITY - actually MEAN something. Like our fore-fathers, we too are willing to SACRIFICE to build a better world for our children whom we love deeply, and like them as well - we are willing to DO ANYTHING NECESSARY to ACHIEVE THAT GOAL.

We are your brothers and your sisters, we are your fathers and your mothers, your friends and your co-workers - WE ARE WHITE AMERICA, just like YOU! Your enemies in control attempt with their constant "anti-nazi" propaganda - to persuade you that "they" are your "real friends" - and that WE, your own kin, are your lifelong enemies. Yet, ask yourself THIS - "WHO" have you to "THANK" for ALL the PROBLEMS FACING YOU? The creatures who HAVE been in total CONTROL - or - those of us resisting the evil? The TRUTH is right there in front of you - DON'T be afraid to understand it and to ACT upon it! You hold the FUTURE - BRIGHT or DARK - in YOUR hands, and TIME IS RUNNING OUT!

They sure like to play imaginary wars.

[Red October]

they're probably too embaressed to say :)

At least the CPUSA's number is large enough to be honest about it which is a good sign.

Not really, they hardly do anything with that membership. There are tons of much smaller leftist groups of all different tendencies that are way more active than the CPUSA. The CPUSA is as good as useless, though I hear their million dollar headquarters is very nice.

[Red_Dialectics]

We need an official poll about CPUSA, not that it think it will be surprising.

[Dust Bunnies]

CPUSA is a joke, they support Barack Obama. :lol:

[freakazoid]

Perhaps we should be trying to recruit from them then? Obviously there are people interested in it if they have that many people. Sounds like they just suck at doing something about it.

[Die Neue Zeit]

^^^ He's got a good point. The CPUSA is recruiting from more liberal-minded people. Why not poach THEIR organization?

[Charles Xavier]

The Bolshevik party was a very small party coming before the revolution in 1917

[RedScare]

Meh, I think the CPUSA is useful to have around, even if they don't do much. They attract people to the Left to begin with, and since no one outside the tiny revolutionary leftist circles in the US really knows how bad they are, it's good place to start if you're just getting into radical leftists politics. Plus, they're always a chance they could fix themselves, you never know.

[Random Precision]

The Bolshevik party was a very small party coming before the revolution in 1917

That's not true.

[undeadsinner]

May I remind any of you-it only takes 1 person to start a revolution-3500 could carry on a guerrilla stuggle for years-so don't forget that-as for the CPUSA-maybe their time has come-maybe it hasn't-=we won't know until a new Civil War breaks out and we'll see how many red flags are flyng across america-andI'm not talking about Red Flags of the Republicans...
"Long Live The Revolution"
:thumbup1:

[redSHARP]

i like the CPUSA, they are nice people and their staff are very personel. they do have agenda issues and basic problems with getting the name out, but with many youth seeking radical politics, at least the CPUSA is not the nazis. my biggest concern is their lack of anti-facist work; they seem to not care and do not have a street fighting unit. FYI: there are nazis in NYC

[Niccolò Rossi]

May I remind any of you-it only takes 1 person to start a revolution

I'm lazy, so I'll let Pannekoek do the talking:
"Can't individual acts be the signal which sets in motion a mass struggle by giving a radical example? It's a wellknown fact in history that the action of an individual in moments of tension can act as a spark to a powder keg. But the proletarian revolution has nothing in common with the explosion of a powder keg. Even if the Communist Party is trying to convince itself and everyone else that the revolution can break out at any moment, we know that the proletariat still has to form itself for new mass combats. These sorts of ideas reveal a certain bourgeois romanticism. In past bourgeois revolutions, the rising bourgeoisie, and behind it the people, were confronted with the personalities of sovereigns and their arbitrary oppression. An assassination of a king or a minister could be a signal for a revolt. The idea that in the present period an individual act could set the masses in movement is based on the bourgeois concept of the "chief", not an elected party leader, but a self-appointed chief, whose action mobilizes the passive masses. The proletarian revolution has nothing to do with this out-dated romanticism of the chief. All initiative has to come from the class, pushed forward by massive social forces.

But, after all, the masses are made up of individuals and mass actions contain a whole number of individual actions. Of course, and here we come to the real value of individual acts. Separated from mass action, the act of an individual who thinks he can accomplish great things on his own is useless. But as part of a mass movement, it's of the greatest importance. The class in struggle isn't a regiment of identical puppets marching in step and accomplishing great things through the blind force of its own movement. It is on the contrary a mass of multiple personalities, pushed forward by the same will, supporting itself, exhorting itself, giving itself courage. The irresistible strength of such a movement is based on many different strengths all converging towards the same goal. In this context, the most audacious bravery can express itself in individual acts of courage, since it is the clear understanding of all the others which directs these acts towards a real goal, so that the fruits of such acts aren't lost. In an ascending movement, this inter-action of strengths and acts is of the greatest value, when it's directed by a clear understanding by the workers about what needs to be done and about how to develop their combativity. But in these cases, it takes a lot more tenacity, audaciousness and courage than it takes to burn a parliament!" - Pannekoek, Individual Acts (http://www.marxists.org/archive/pannekoe/1933/individual.htm)

[KC]

CP is a bunch of left-democrat liberals.

[Charles Xavier]

17 people lead the Cuban Revolution.

[Dr. Fish]

can't we just have rowdy motherfuckers enter and lead it to a more passionate protest.
Like entryism, only we'd be making it an actual communist party.