Log in

View Full Version : Hawaii drops universal healthcare for children



Incendiarism
17th October 2008, 14:07
http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/10/17/hawaii.health.ap/index.html

So typically american

A New Era
17th October 2008, 14:23
Wow, that is sick. What will happen to the children if their parents do not have enough cash?

Will a bill be sent to the parents afterwards or..?

Yehuda Stern
17th October 2008, 18:19
The children will probably just die in the streets, as is less common in our world than one would think.

Herman
17th October 2008, 18:46
Assholes!

JimmyJazz
18th October 2008, 05:45
Not joking: when I clicked on this I thought you meant "drops" in the hip hop sense, i.e., they introduced it.

BraneMatter
18th October 2008, 09:22
Shame on Hawaii. But capitalism, as a system, does really not give a f__k about people, only profits, and only allows enough "trickle down" to the working class to keep the lid on the pressure cooker.

I generally do not favor so-called single-payer 'universal health care' plans, although they are certainly better than what we have now. For them to even work at all, severe controls, especially on costs, must be imposed on the entire medical industry complex. Otherwise, you have something like Medicare and Medicaid, with out-of-control costs and massive fraud, plus lousy care.

I favor, rather, true socialized medicine, period. A self-contained, government run and owned system like the VA, properly funded, for everyone, with nationalization of the entire medical and pharmaceutical industries. The insurance companies would be eliminated from the picture, and the government would not serve as a single-payer insurance company for a private medical industry at all. All doctors would work directly for the government, and all pharmacies and pharmaceutical companies would be nationalized, as well as all medical related industries like nursing homes, all hospitals, medical equipment companies, medical research facilities, etc.

Obama's health care plan is far from perfect, but still is an improvement if managed right.

cyu
20th October 2008, 20:37
I talked to a guy who was a small shopkeeper in Hawaii. He said Hawaii has one of the highest rates of people forced to take more than one job, because the cost of living is so high there.

The more rich people that move to Hawaii, the higher the cost of living. The rich buy up the real estate, the good food, etc etc, while just lying back in the sun, while the underclass not only have to work to support themselves, but now they serve the rich as well - who obviously aren't doing any real work.