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Malvinas Argentinas
21st April 2003, 17:56
Lenin describes the state as a machine possesed by the upper classes to control the other classes. he proposed first to take that machine from the capitalist, then use it to eliminate any possible explotation, and the get rid of that machine that the state is.

On the other hand, Breinstein, leftift revisionist, afirmed that the state is not a coactive instrument of the dominant class, is not neccesary the violent distruction of the state, and it is not valid the tabu of the extinction of the state.

I personaly agree much more with lenin, by at the same time i see difficult to destroy such organ as the state
komsomol
21st April 2003, 20:31
I agree with Lenin, in smashing the Bourgeois state you create a new Proletarian state.
Totalitarian
22nd April 2003, 15:43
Quote: from MOLOCH on 8:31 pm on April 21, 2003
I agree with Lenin, in smashing the Bourgeois state you create a new Proletarian state.

Which differs from the previous tyranny, how exactly?
Guest1
23rd April 2003, 05:34
No, lenin didn't mean that, steal the state, turn it into a proletariat state, then smash it. The state is a tool of oppression no matter what side controls it.