Wikipedia: Cambodian communism

[Schrödinger's Cat]

Unfortunately, it's locked to regular users. I'm not surprised. Capitalist apologists have been raiding the site for months.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist#Council_Communism

What the hell is "Cambodian" communism? There isn't even one bit of theory involved. Has anyone actually met a Khmour Rouge apologist?

[Trystan]

I met one over the net once. Could have been a troll. Didn't seem too bright. But I'm sure that are some other nutcases out there who are sincere about it.

BTW, could anyone tell me what influence the French CP had on the Khmer Rouge? Their ideologies seem pretty different to me . . .

[Yehuda Stern]

I met one over the net once. Could have been a troll. Didn't seem too bright. But I'm sure that are some other nutcases out there who are sincere about it.

There are apologists for any regime that has ever proclaimed itself to be even remotely Marxist out there, I'm sure it's just a matter of being lucky enough to find the one guy who's a "Potist."


BTW, could anyone tell me what influence the French CP had on the Khmer Rouge?

Well, Ho Chi Minh was for quite some time a member of the PCF and I'm sure that that had a big effect on him. It's possible that the leaders of the Khmer Rouge were influenced either similarly (as members of a French colony living in France temporarily) or indirectly through Ho Chi Minh himself.

[More Fire for the People]

I remember a libertarian tried to convince me that 'sinister' was an objective description of a communist symbol.

[cmbnd10]

I remember a libertarian tried to convince me that 'sinister' was an objective description of a communist symbol.

Did you slap said libertarian?

[GPDP]

Wikipedia articles with an anti-communist slant? No, perish the thought! Wikipedia is unbiased!

[Kwisatz Haderach]

Unfortunately, it's locked to regular users.
It's only locked to guests and new users. If you register you'll be able to edit it in a couple of days. The same applies to all other "semi-protected" articles.

[Incendiarism]

Yeah, but articles like that tend to be closely monitored and any changes will be snipped away unless you have readily available sources and what not.

But really, even though they pride themselves on offering an objective and unbiased information, we have to take into account their sources on these types of pages are largely capitalist, and the owner of the website himself is a libertarian.

[Kwisatz Haderach]

Yeah, but articles like that tend to be closely monitored and any changes will be snipped away unless you have readily available sources and what not.
It appears the "Cambodian communism" section was added a few weeks ago by a user who did not explain his reasons for adding it. It can be removed completely, because it violates the Undue Weight policy (what makes Cambodian communism "special" enough to be worthy of its own section? by these standards, why not have a section on Bulgarian communism or Czech communism?)

But the communism article is also quite crappy in general. It appears to be little more than a collection of paragraphs taken from other articles (Marxism, Leninism etc.) and pasted together.

[Random Precision]

Well, Ho Chi Minh was for quite some time a member of the PCF and I'm sure that that had a big effect on him. It's possible that the leaders of the Khmer Rouge were influenced either similarly (as members of a French colony living in France temporarily) or indirectly through Ho Chi Minh himself.

Saloth Sar, Khieu Samphan, Ieng Sary, and many other Khmer Rouge leaders were members of the French CP as students in the mother country during its Stalinist heyday in the thirties. So it's not exactly a surprise that when they went back to Cambodia, they did not exactly have the best understanding of Marxism, as they had only read a few of the selected "holy texts" in French, a language not many understood very well.