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[Edelweiss]

Afghanistan (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/asa/afghanistan!Open)
Albania (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/eur/albania!Open)
Australia (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/asa/australia!Open)
Azerbaijan (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/eur/azerbaijan!Open)
Bulgaria (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/eur/bulgaria!Open)
Colombia (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/amr/colombia!Open)
the Czech Republic (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/eur/czech+republic!Open)
Denmark (http://www.amnesty.org/ailib/aireport/ar97/EUR18.htm)
El Salvador (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/amr/el+salvador!Open)
Eritrea (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/afr/eritrea!Open)
Estonia (http://www.amnesty.org/ailib/aireport/ar97/EUR51.htm)
Ethiopia (http://)Georgia (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/eur/georgia!Open)
Hungary (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/eur/hungary!Open)
Italy (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/eur/italy!Open)
Japan (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/asa/japan!Open)
South Korea (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/asa/republic+of+korea!Open)
Latvia (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/eur/latvia!Open)
Lithuania (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/eur/lithuania!Open)
Macedonia (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/eur/macedonia!Open)
the Netherlands (http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-nld/index)
Nicaragua (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/amr/nicaragua!Open)
the Philippines (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/asa/philippines!Open)
Poland (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/eur/poland!Open)
Portugal (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/eur/portugal!Open)
Romania (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/eur/romania!Open)
Rwanda (http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-rwa/index)
Singapore (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/asa/singapore!Open)
Slovakia (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/eur/slovak+republic!Open)
Spain (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/eur/spain!Open)
Turkey (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/eur/turkey!Open)
United Kingdom (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/eur/uk!Open)
Uganda (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/afr/uganda!Open)
Uzbekistan (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/eur/uzbekistan!Open)

Note especially the highlighted countries for being a shining example of democracy to the evil evil Iraq, and the devil himself Saddam Hussein. But thank to the American heroes in uniform, Iraq is now liberated, and will soon follow that shining example.

God bless America!

[Liberty Lover]

Trust the king commie to compare the human rights record of countries like Colombia to Iraq. Has Alvaro Uribe Velez commited genocide lately? Gassed is own people? No.

Maybe if countries with the appaling human rights record of, say, Cuba (http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-cub/index) were part of the coalition your argument would be valid. But as it stands...woosh.

(Edited by Liberty Lover at 1:15 am on April 18, 2003)


(Edited by Liberty Lover at 3:34 am on April 18, 2003)

[hazard]

that list is the weakest excuse for a coalition I've ever seen

UK, the only semi powerful nation, is only "willing" because of their own internal terrorist problems. they think by suckholing to the US they will get the go ahead to get brutal on the Irish.

everybody else is, as was already pointed out, civil rights violators, american puppet nations or just plain weakling countries that amount to nothing.

[Chiak47]

You forgot Pakistan...

[Sabocat]

Oooops. LL...you forgot one.

http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-usa/index

(Edited by Disgustapated at 5:13 pm on April 18, 2003)

[Dhul Fiqar]

You also forgot Iceland, but the fucking Yanks don't even bother listing them on all their lists. They signed up, though, the baaaastards :(

--- G.

[Dhul Fiqar]

Oh, and many more of those countries have more than questionable records and corrupt regimes of course.

Albania, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Colombia, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Georgia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Nicaragua, Romania, Rwanda, Singapore, Slovakia, Turkey, Uganda and Uzbekistan are among the countries on that list that have some very serious issues at home to deal with, ranging from corruption and crime to ethnic cleansing and genocide, lack of democracy and lack of free speech.

--- G.

[Edelweiss]

Quote: from Liberty Lover on 1:12 am on April 18, 2003
Trust the king commie to compare the human rights record of countries like Colombia to Iraq. Has Alvaro Uribe Velez commited genocide lately? Gassed is own people? No.

Maybe if countries with the appaling human rights record of, say, Cuba (http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-cub/index) were part of the coalition your argument would be valid. But as it stands...woosh.

(Edited by Liberty Lover at 1:15 am on April 18, 2003)


(Edited by Liberty Lover at 3:34 am on April 18, 2003)


Are you kidding? You really think that countries like Uzbekistan or Uganda are any better than Iraq? They are totally ignored by the corporate media, but the human rights situation there is not any better than in Iraq, as you can clearly read in the AI reports. The difference is that they don't have any oil.

[mentalbunny]

Ah, the US, what a wonderful place. Well as long as the EU can put enough pressure on the US then maybe it won't be so bad in Iraq, but it's all hanging in the balance.

[Chiak47]

Now, as we begin, I must ask you to banish all present information and prejudice from your minds, if you have any.



http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/amr/...r/colombia!Open (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/amr/colombia!Open)
Armed opposition groups
Armed opposition groups were responsible for numerous abuses including the arbitrary and deliberate killing of hundreds of civilians. Journalists, indigenous leaders and politicians were among those members of civilian society particularly targeted by guerrilla forces for opposing their policies or exposing their abuses. Scores of civilians were wounded or killed in the course of indiscriminate and disproportionate attacks against military targets.

In February, seven young trekkers were killed in the Puracé Natural Park, Cauca Department, following their abduction by FARC forces of the XIII Front. In March the FARC admitted responsibility for the massacre. In November AI wrote to the FARC leadership raising this and other cases of abuses, but no reply had been received by the end of the year.
Pablo Emilio Parra Castañeda, the manager of a radio station in Tolima Department, was killed on 27 June, reportedly by members of the FARC who accused him of being an informant.
ELN guerrillas of the María Cano Front killed a 73-year-old member of the indigenous community of Katío Tegual La Po in the municipality of Segovia, Antioquia Department.
On 15 May, ELN guerrillas entered the Campo Dos area, Tibú Municipality, Norte de Santander Department. They threatened several members of the civilian population, accusing them of collaborating with the army, and killed Francisco Javier Rola and Luis Burgos.

Kidnapping

2001 saw continued high levels of kidnappings and hostage-taking. Guerrilla forces were responsible for an estimated 60 per cent of around 3,000 kidnappings. Paramilitaries also increasingly resorted to hostage-taking and were responsible for an estimated eight per cent of reported kidnappings. Hostages held by guerrilla forces were killed during confrontations with the security forces.

On 24 September, Consuelo Araújo Noguera, a former Minister of Culture and the wife of the Procurator General, was kidnapped, together with 24 other people, by the 59th Front of the FARC, in Patillal, near Valledupar, Cesar Department. The majority of the hostages were released by 25 September. Consuelo Araújo Noguera was killed by the FARC on 30 September.
Timothy Parks, a British citizen who was being held hostage by the ELN, was killed on 28 October during an armed confrontation between the ELN and the armed forces in Chocó Department.

The FARC and the ELN agreed to end collective kidnappings in October and December respectively.



http://library.nps.navy.mil/home/tgp/farc.htm

Description
Established in 1964 as the military wing of the Colombian Communist Party, the FARC is Colombia’s oldest, largest, most capable, and best-equipped Marxist insurgency. The FARC is governed by a secretariat, led by septuagenarian Manuel Marulanda, a.k.a. "Tirofijo," and six others, including senior military commander Jorge Briceno, a.k.a. "Mono Jojoy." Organized along military lines and includes several urban fronts. In 2001, the group continued a slow-moving peace negotiation process with the Pastrana Administration that has gained the group several concessions, including a demilitarized zone used as a venue for negotiations.

Activities
Bombings, murder, kidnapping, extortion, hijacking, as well as guerrilla and conventional military action against Colombian political, military, and economic targets. In March 1999 the FARC executed three US Indian rights activists on Venezuelan territory after it kidnapped them in Colombia. Foreign citizens often are targets of FARC kidnapping for ransom. Has well-documented ties to narcotics traffickers, principally through the provision of armed protection.

Strength
Approximately 9,000 to 12,000 armed combatants and an unknown number of supporters, mostly in rural areas.

Location/Area of Operation
Colombia with some activities--extortion, kidnapping, logistics, and R&R--in Venezuela, Panama, and Ecuador.

External Aid
Cuba provides some medical care and political consultation.


Councel, Then We'll Stand In Recess. And, Councel, Would You Bring You And Your Clients And Thier Materials Into Chambers, Please.



Thank you,
Judge

[Edelweiss]

Quote: from Chiak47 on 1:50 pm on April 18, 2003
Now, as we begin, I must ask you to banish all present information and prejudice from your minds, if you have any.



http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/amr/...r/colombia!Open (http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/amr/colombia!Open)
Armed opposition groups
Armed opposition groups were responsible for numerous abuses including the arbitrary and deliberate killing of hundreds of civilians. Journalists, indigenous leaders and politicians were among those members of civilian society particularly targeted by guerrilla forces for opposing their policies or exposing their abuses. Scores of civilians were wounded or killed in the course of indiscriminate and disproportionate attacks against military targets.

In February, seven young trekkers were killed in the Puracé Natural Park, Cauca Department, following their abduction by FARC forces of the XIII Front. In March the FARC admitted responsibility for the massacre. In November AI wrote to the FARC leadership raising this and other cases of abuses, but no reply had been received by the end of the year.
Pablo Emilio Parra Castañeda, the manager of a radio station in Tolima Department, was killed on 27 June, reportedly by members of the FARC who accused him of being an informant.
ELN guerrillas of the María Cano Front killed a 73-year-old member of the indigenous community of Katío Tegual La Po in the municipality of Segovia, Antioquia Department.
On 15 May, ELN guerrillas entered the Campo Dos area, Tibú Municipality, Norte de Santander Department. They threatened several members of the civilian population, accusing them of collaborating with the army, and killed Francisco Javier Rola and Luis Burgos.

Kidnapping

2001 saw continued high levels of kidnappings and hostage-taking. Guerrilla forces were responsible for an estimated 60 per cent of around 3,000 kidnappings. Paramilitaries also increasingly resorted to hostage-taking and were responsible for an estimated eight per cent of reported kidnappings. Hostages held by guerrilla forces were killed during confrontations with the security forces.

On 24 September, Consuelo Araújo Noguera, a former Minister of Culture and the wife of the Procurator General, was kidnapped, together with 24 other people, by the 59th Front of the FARC, in Patillal, near Valledupar, Cesar Department. The majority of the hostages were released by 25 September. Consuelo Araújo Noguera was killed by the FARC on 30 September.
Timothy Parks, a British citizen who was being held hostage by the ELN, was killed on 28 October during an armed confrontation between the ELN and the armed forces in Chocó Department.

The FARC and the ELN agreed to end collective kidnappings in October and December respectively.



http://library.nps.navy.mil/home/tgp/farc.htm

Description
Established in 1964 as the military wing of the Colombian Communist Party, the FARC is Colombia’s oldest, largest, most capable, and best-equipped Marxist insurgency. The FARC is governed by a secretariat, led by septuagenarian Manuel Marulanda, a.k.a. "Tirofijo," and six others, including senior military commander Jorge Briceno, a.k.a. "Mono Jojoy." Organized along military lines and includes several urban fronts. In 2001, the group continued a slow-moving peace negotiation process with the Pastrana Administration that has gained the group several concessions, including a demilitarized zone used as a venue for negotiations.

Activities
Bombings, murder, kidnapping, extortion, hijacking, as well as guerrilla and conventional military action against Colombian political, military, and economic targets. In March 1999 the FARC executed three US Indian rights activists on Venezuelan territory after it kidnapped them in Colombia. Foreign citizens often are targets of FARC kidnapping for ransom. Has well-documented ties to narcotics traffickers, principally through the provision of armed protection.

Strength
Approximately 9,000 to 12,000 armed combatants and an unknown number of supporters, mostly in rural areas.

Location/Area of Operation
Colombia with some activities--extortion, kidnapping, logistics, and R&R--in Venezuela, Panama, and Ecuador.

External Aid
Cuba provides some medical care and political consultation.


Councel, Then We'll Stand In Recess. And, Councel, Would You Bring You And Your Clients And Thier Materials Into Chambers, Please.



Thank you,
Judge




So? What are you trying to proof? we are talking here about human rights violations of state-run institutions, not about opposition groups.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

I am so sick of u cappies trying to make ur faults with pointing out mistakes of self claimed "socialists".

No kidnapping is not very socialist!

Childlabour is very captalistic though.

[Larissa]

Chiak, what about the highest Human Rights violations by the US.

BTW, as Malte pointed out, he was referring to Opposition groups.

Also, we should bear in mind that in Colombia there are at least three (quite) different goups.

(Edited by Larissa at 12:30 pm on April 18, 2003)

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from hazard on 2:05 am on April 18, 2003

UK, the only semi powerful nation, is only "willing" because of their own internal terrorist problems. they think by suckholing to the US they will get the go ahead to get brutal on the Irish.




No, mate, no. The majority of the terrorist problems have stopped. Except the loyallist paramilitary scum. They aught to be squashed at are earliest conviniance. But the IRA are demilitarising.

The reason why we as in Britain are supporting the USA, is because of the increased trade we have gained from the USA beacuse of this. The reasons we are in this war a purley economic.

[Bodacious]

Great post. Hazard cry me a river loser, the truth hurt's dont it boy.Larissa ah another brainchild.What about the Human Right's violations ..... our's.We and the Brit's both had there glorious troop's executed by thug's and shown on TV among many other thing's.

Psssst re-read his post dumbass it's not a list of the opposition.It did show us who our true friend's the one's with backbone are however.I'd like to see what name and party Canada and Mexico went under, if it wasn't for the Big Daddy America protecting there worthless backstabing hide's thoughout the year's.

The Brit's have shown alot of honor and skill in there great military , we truely are of the same people.Dont forget Israel. One Israeli soldier is worth 1000 Arab's.

May the new Democratic Iraq live long and prosper under it's new liberation.Never forget the brave and unselfish coaliation solder's who gave the ultimate sacrafice to bring you freedom.

[redstar2000]

If it's all the same to you, Bodacious, I'd feel a lot freer if all of you imperial wankers made "the ultimate sacrifice." :cheesy:

:cool:

[Liberty Lover]

Malte,

Give me an example of genocide commited by the government of Uzbekistan that has resulted in the deaths of 100, 000 people.

[Edelweiss]

Quote: from Liberty Lover on 1:09 am on April 19, 2003
Malte,

Give me an example of genocide commited by the government of Uzbekistan that has resulted in the deaths of 100, 000 people.

Liberty Lover,
Give me an example of genocide commited by the government of the Iraqi that has resulted in the deaths of 100, 000 people.

If you mean the poison gas attack on the kurds in 1988, it was much less 100,000 deaths, furthermore that was in a time when Saddam still was a US backed dictator, and I swear you didn't gave a damn shit when it happened.
As I said, the human rights situtaion in countries like Eritrea, Uzbeikistan or Uganda is not any better than in Iraq, face the truth, brainwashed idiot.

[Liberty Lover]

Operation Anfal:

Iraq’s 1988 Anfal campaign of extermination against the Kurdish people living within its borders resulted in the death of at least 50,000 and as many as 100,000 people, many of them women and children. This book, co-published with Yale University Press, investigates the Anfal campaign and concludes that this campaign constituted genocide against the Kurds. The book is the result of research by a team of Human Rights Watch investigators who analyzed eighteen tons of captured Iraqi government documents (10 of these documents are reproduced in the appendix) and carried out field interviews with more than 350 witnesses, most of them survivors of the Anfal campaign. It confirms that the campaign was characterized by gross violations of human rights, including mass summary executions and disappearances of many tens of thousands of noncombatants; the widespread use of chemical weapons, among them mustard gas and nerve agents that killed thousands; the arbitrary jailing and warehousing of tens of thousands of women, children, and elderly people for months, in conditions of extreme deprivation and without judicial order; the forced displacement of hundreds of thousands of villagers to barren resettlement camps after the demolition of their homes; and the wholesale destruction of some two thousand villages along with their schools, mosques, farms, and power stations. The book is a searing indictment of the Iraqi government’s carefully planned and executed program to destroy a people, harrowing in its detailed and objective recounting of crimes against innocents.
(http://hrw.org/reports/world/iraq-pubs.php)

I was three years old when it happened.

[革命者]

Quote: from Dhul Fiqar on 1:20 pm on April 18, 2003
Oh, and many more of those countries have more than questionable records and corrupt regimes of course.

Albania, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Colombia, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Georgia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Nicaragua, Romania, Rwanda, Singapore, Slovakia, Turkey, Uganda and Uzbekistan are among the countries on that list that have some very serious issues at home to deal with, ranging from corruption and crime to ethnic cleansing and genocide, lack of democracy and lack of free speech.

--- G.
what about the Netherlands-- we don't have a government to begin with!!