voters in at least six swing states removed or blocked

[spice756]

Some thing does not look right here:(

May be they are doing fraud ?


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Tens of thousands of eligible voters in at least six swing states have been removed from the rolls or have been blocked from registering in ways that appear to violate federal law, according to a review of state records and Social Security data by The New York Times.

The actions do not seem to be coordinated by one party or the other, nor do they appear to be the result of election officials intentionally breaking rules, but are apparently the result of mistakes in the handling of the registrations and voter files as the states tried to comply with a 2002 federal law, intended to overhaul the way elections are run.


Still, because Democrats have been more aggressive at registering new voters this year, according to state election officials, any heightened screening of new applications may affect their party’s supporters disproportionately.

The screening or trimming of voter registration lists in the six states — Colorado (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/national/usstatesterritoriesandpossessions/colorado/index.html?inline=nyt-geo), Indiana (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/national/usstatesterritoriesandpossessions/indiana/index.html?inline=nyt-geo), Ohio (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/national/usstatesterritoriesandpossessions/ohio/index.html?inline=nyt-geo), Michigan (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/national/usstatesterritoriesandpossessions/michigan/index.html?inline=nyt-geo), Nevada (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/national/usstatesterritoriesandpossessions/nevada/index.html?inline=nyt-geo) and North Carolina (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/national/usstatesterritoriesandpossessions/northcarolina/index.html?inline=nyt-geo) — could also result in problems at the polls on Election Day: people who have been removed from the rolls are likely to show up only to be challenged by political party officials or election workers, resulting in confusion, long lines and heated tempers.

Some states allow such voters to cast provisional ballots. But they are often not counted because they require added verification.
Although much attention this year has been focused on the millions of new voters being added to the rolls by the candidacy of Senator Barack Obama (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per), there has been far less notice given to the number of voters being dropped from those same rolls.



More at http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us/politics/09voting.html?bl&ex=1223697600&en=ce240ad3162ac5ac&ei=5087%0A

[Plagueround]

It wouldn't surprise me in the least. This is why I always laugh at conspiracy theorists: You don't need a conspiracy...it's right out in the open.

[Sendo]

check out the thurdsday 9 Oct Democracy Now! Broadcast. They have Ohio Sec of State, and some experts on disfranchisement. They air Greg Palast's BBC report in full.

Also check out the documentary Hacking Democracy for the secrecy and fraud that surrounds diebold/voting solutions of america/whatever their new name is.

The GOP is stepping up disfranchisement this time because the election won't be as close as 2004. The way polls are they'll have to rig just enough in nearly all the swing states to get the electoral college. I tell ya, without the college rigging elections would be a lot harder.

[Harrycombs]

*Sigh*

There is a major problem when you don't purge your records. Once, I think it was Mississippi, had more registered voters than the population of eligible voters in the state, because they didn't purge their records for over 20 years. This causes the number of registered voters to be artificially inflated. Without purging inactive voters, it would cause serious problems. It would be hard to go over a case by case basis for inactive voters. So, this might not be as malicious as we all would like to jump to conclusions about. If they are trying to block voters, I'm not surprised, but without proof, then I think we should be skeptical.

Also, why would they block voters? Both people are running are capitalists, there is no threat.

[Sendo]

i highly suggest you watch "HAcking Democracy" or "American Blackout".

Purges aren't needed, there is no case of ballot stuffing of which I or other experts have heard happening in ages. There are some cases of inflated reg. voters, but this never actually results in stuffed ballot boxes.

The people who get hardships, long lines, "provisional ballots", photo id checks (who has driv licenses?), caging lists, et al. are disproportionately black and disproportionately poor, the people who will vote left.

The Dems don't make as much of a fuss as rank and file people because the Dems engage in disfranchisement themselves. This is done in mostly non-pres. elections, moreso in Congressional or local politics. The aim is to block out Amerinidans and leftist caucuses in the Party. Often time election laws as have been written for the past 150 years greatly favor the ability to disfranchise.

Disfranchisement is not color blind.

You are right in saying there is "no threat" to the ruling classes if Dems or GOP win. Both sides know this and this is why the Dems would not rock the boat in 2000 or 2004. However, they are definitely rival factions, more and more personal cliques than ideological differences separate them. Getting access to the White House for your little posse is a huge gain at puts you at the crust of the ruling class, of course there's gonna be rivalry, don't deny that there is. Just because they hold hands for bailouts and the like, doesn't mean that when the dust clears they won't be bickering and shoving for the big red button.

[thescarface1989]

check out the thurdsday 9 Oct Democracy Now! Broadcast. They have Ohio Sec of State, and some experts on disfranchisement. They air Greg Palast's BBC report in full.

Also check out the documentary Hacking Democracy for the secrecy and fraud that surrounds diebold/voting solutions of america/whatever their new name is.

The GOP is stepping up disfranchisement this time because the election won't be as close as 2004. The way polls are they'll have to rig just enough in nearly all the swing states to get the electoral college. I tell ya, without the college rigging elections would be a lot harder.


Greg Palast
1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjDDw2bADoI
2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTbIp9wLwDU
3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEd59rZKZto&feature=related

More on Democracy Now
1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjc8tOz2Arw
2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo-xxldjteI
3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pzVoFtUixk

[Mather]

It is important to expose all cases of political corruption, vote rigging and electoral fraud, but only in the context of exposing the whole sham of 'democracy' as it exists within the capitalist system.

What passes for 'democracy' today is nothing but the electoral college of deciding who will represent the dictatorship of the ruling capitalist class, nothing more and nothing less.

What needs to be avoided is playing the game and being fooled into thinking that voting makes any difference or that the Democrats will be any better than the Republicans.

Seeing both Mccain and Obama support the $700 billion bail out of Wall Street (corporate welfare) is just one exapmple of how, when a crisis in the capitalist system exists, both Democrats and Republicans sing from the same sheet of paper.