Syria Next... - Bush is on a roll.

[Invader Zim]

The white house seems to be priming its self for a new target.

source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2947571.stm)

Syria i am unsure about. Do they have a history of genocide like Saddam?

PS I posted something similar in politics, however i just noticed there is another thread about that there already so could someone delete it.

Thanks

(Edited by AK47 at 11:32 pm on April 14, 2003)

[Anonymous]

Good. I'm glad to see it.

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from Dark Capitalist on 12:53 am on April 15, 2003
Good. I'm glad to see it.

Why what has syria ever done to you exactly?

[Boris Moskovitz]

What have they done? They are probably once again another country that Bush is trying to "liberate" from the terrorists' oppression, or maybe it is simply another pretext to expand the American Empire :biggrin:.

[Pete]

Syria is anti Iraq.... The connection between the ruling parties in both nations is only their names. There is no reason to go to Syria, except they are the major dealers of Iraqi Oil.

[HankMorgan]

Invading Syria isn't needed. What is needed is a committed effort to rebuilding Iraq. A strong, free and prosperous Iraq will do more for Syria (and Iran and Saudi Arabia) than the US military ever could.

As good as the US military is, it isn't the United States best weapon. Freedom is.

I oppose any invasion of Syria.

[Liberty Lover]

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/upload/saddam-assad.jpg

The reasons for deposing the Iraqi tyrant apply to the Syrian despot as well. Syria is a sponsor of terrorism, has a thriving chemical weapons program, and has massacred its own citizens. The only significant difference is that while Saddam Hussein tried to hide his terrorist links, Bashar al-Asad prefers an in-your-face approach.

Syria appeared on the U.S. State Department's very first list of countries sponsoring terrorism. Two Palestinian terrorist groups, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, are headquartered in Damascus.

Regime change in Damascus and the simultaneous liberation of Syrian occupied Lebanon could have positive consequences well beyond the two countries. Driving Hezbollah out of Lebanon and Palestinian terrorist groups out of Syria would be a major victory in the war against terrorism. It could also help bring the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to an end.

[HankMorgan]

Liberty Lover, we can achieve regime change in Syria without bloodshed by treating the Iraqi people with respect, by helping them establish a free government where no one can acquire too much power and by directing the oil wealth to the benefit of the Iraqi people.

Freedom has a momentum that comes from the inborn human drive to be free. Sometimes it needs a tiny push to get it started but once it starts it cannot be stopped. We've given it a small push in Iraq. Now let's get out of the way and let the people do the rest. Freedom will come to the Middle East. For years it will seem like nothing is happening and then BANG, all at once it will happen. Now is the time for patience, not power.

I say no to invading Syria. I say yes to real liberty in Iraq.

[Liberty Lover]

HM,

Don’t get me wrong. I'm not suggesting the U.S. should target one country after another. Deposing a few carefully selected regimes puts immense pressure on other governments to fight terrorist groups and accept democratic reform.

Syria presents a unique opportunity. Deposing Asad and driving Hezbullah out of Lebanon would greatly reduce tensions between Israel and its neighbours. Furthermore it would encourage all Arab dictatorships to abandon their ties with terrorist groups, and to not violently quell the pro-democracy movements that will form once democracy is established in Iraq.

(Edited by Liberty Lover at 8:00 am on April 15, 2003)

[MARX MAN]

The Capitalist Economy is in danger, skyrocketing OIL (That word will get Bush's mouth dribling) prices and layoffs so on. So what can Wolfavits come up with PRIEMTION. So now the only way This So-called democracy can stop itsself from falling over is to keep attacking other nation. Attacking other nations to stop from colapsing it has to creat unstibility in the world.
I cant imagin how a person with ears and eyes cant see this!!!

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from Liberty Lover on 7:21 am on April 15, 2003
http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/upload/saddam-assad.jpg

The reasons for deposing the Iraqi tyrant apply to the Syrian despot as well. Syria is a sponsor of terrorism, has a thriving chemical weapons program, and has massacred its own citizens. The only significant difference is that while Saddam Hussein tried to hide his terrorist links, Bashar al-Asad prefers an in-your-face approach.

Syria appeared on the U.S. State Department's very first list of countries sponsoring terrorism. Two Palestinian terrorist groups, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, are headquartered in Damascus.




Prove what you say.

Chemical Weapons: Iraq has had 17 UN resolutions asking them to disarm. Syria has had NONE. Thats sugests they dont have chemical weapons.

Mass Murder: Provide me with a good source and i will believe it.

Terrorism: Ireland has terrorists, i dont see the USA planning to invade Ireland. Same with Spain.

Its all US bullshit.

[Dhul Fiqar]

ROFLMAO, I love how capitalists that have never even talked to an Arab have all the long-term insights into the psychology of the Arab world.

Here's the plan so far:
"We kill lots of them - they love us."
Hmn, well, a couple of flaws in the logic but it's a start, no? ;)

--- G.

[Pete]

The US Government also sponsers terrorism. This war on terrorism is bullshit. Hey lets bomb Boston for supporting the IRA and Maimi for various anti-castro terrorist organzitations while the US war machine carves out an empire!

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from CrazyPete on 3:00 pm on April 15, 2003
The US Government also sponsers terrorism. This war on terrorism is bullshit. Hey lets bomb Boston for supporting the IRA and Maimi for various anti-castro terrorist organzitations while the US war machine carves out an empire!

That is very true. Come on DC defend your claims.

[Bodacious]

Frist off Pete the only thing Canada is good for is harboring draft dodger's and crybabies like you. Along with your Hypocrite title you just earned another one , *Suckass* with you new Che signature.

I agree with this post 100% Syria must fall along with Iran and I'll give you Seven reason's why we cant deal with the Arab's. (http://wordofmessiah.org/seven_reasons.htm)

This is why the Che 1960's way of thinking will not work in this day and age.
The guerrilla war or war of liberation will generally have three stages: First, the strategic defensive when a small force nibbles at the enemy and makes off, not to shelter in passive defence within a small circumference, but rather to defend itself by limited attacks which it can carry out successfully. After this, comes a state of equilibrium, during which the possibilities of action on the part of both the enemy and the guerrillas are established; then comes the final stage of overrunning the repressive army, ending in the capture of the big cities, large-scale decisive encounters and the total annihilation of the enemy. - cHE

The failure of this type of warfare is outdated and can be proved so by looking at the terroist in Iraq right now. For decade's now the GHQ , SAS and American Special Force's have trained for this day and are the best in the world.

(Edited by Bodacious at 5:36 pm on April 15, 2003)

[Invader Zim]

hostile to what we believe in, hostile to that which makes us the greatest nation in the history of the world.

How do they work that out. Like every thing you post that web site is full of shit.

What constitues the greatest nation Ever: -

1. Greatest ever Economic strength... Oh dear that goes to the British empire.

2. Greatest ever land mass... Oh dear that goes to the British empire... again.

3. Greatest ever Culture. Look at Italy in the15th-18th century. Great poets, inventors, artists, music, religion, architecture, etc. Or the roman culture. Or even the British Empire's culture.

4. Greatest military power. Look at Greace, Britain, France, china etc. All in there prime were far more militarily powerful than the USA is now.


So we can conclude that the USA was most certainly not the greatest ever nation.

[The Sniper]

I noticed that all of Syrias supposed terrorist groups where Palistinian ones, and it strikes me as shorta short sighted as how the US can fail to see whats right in fornt of their face. THE BIGGEST ISSUE IN THE MIDDLE EAST RIGHT NOW IS ISRAEL!!! For fucks sake why cant they see that this issue needs to be dealt with destroy syria and creat even more anti-american feeling so by the time does come (if it ever does) the ppl of the arab world wouldnt even consider dipolmatic means, because that would mean talks with the US. And another thing is that the war in Iraq took much longer and caused far more damage to ppl and buildings that anyone imagiened, now Syria has a better ecomomy (no UN sacations), better military (it hasnt been having to recover for 10 years) and much more public support (Bashar al-Asad is much more pro-religion than Saddam). Iran is a totally different kettle of fish and like North Korea its one of the few countries that america might attack that they might not win against.

[Bodacious]

Traumatized there goes that word again. Blah blah blah AK47 dont put word's in my mouth , where did I say "We're the Greatest Nation in the History of the World"? you cant your just running your pigyapper again.

Umm Sniper that *red* text in my above post if you click it you will see I have allready said that " THE BIGGEST ISSUE IN THE MIDDLE EAST RIGHT NOW IS ISRAEL!!!" . That's another thing you non-religious countries really dont have a say in the matter at all. This has been going on since the beginning of time and will only end with complete destruction from one side. We will never allow any Arab country to invade Israel even if it mean's our own destruction. America's Christian Population (http://christianparty.net/christianpopulation.htm)

[Pete]

Frist off Pete the only thing Canada is good for is harboring draft dodger's

Why the hostility? Sure we have draft dodgers. Isn't a draft an antidemocratic thing to have anyways?

Syria must fall along with Iran

Biblical proof and the defense of Israel is not an answer. You will follow where ever Bush leaves, whether it is off a cliff into fire, or into a cannon. And America seems to be doing the same. Just because he was picked by a bunch of wealthy people to run, and picked by a few judges to rule does not make him write. All his support is fundamentally flawed. I hope America is ready for a Holy Hell to come down upon them. Next to Egypt Syria is the strongest Arab nation.

I know that for a revolution to be successful you must anhilllate the opposition. They must be assimilated into the proletariat, and then into the new man. I don't know what you are saying. I understand Che's motives, I have read a number of his writings and various biographies.

The Americans are not the best soldiers in the world, nor were they ever. Their air force may be, that is the majority of their power. Forexample, the Canadian SF in Afganistan have racked up more kills than some bomber divisions.

[Wolfie]

"syria has massacred it own citizens"

LOL looks like you are using Dubya's chain of thought - "lets just say something we want to be true, and it will be"

[Boris Moskovitz]

Now now... I really agree on this one with HankMorgan... It is true... The Americans have already made an expansion in Iraq, now, they must feed the people and try to show them an illusion that America cares about the Iraqis, which they don't. But to be a good liar, you must lie. America must now take care iof he little things going on in Iraq, and then, when they are done with that, they can go barbaric again and attack any other countries.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want the invasion and I never wanted. But before going to other conquests, you must first take care of your brand-new puppet state, don't you agree?

PS: I am not for the war ;). It was obvious that I was being sarcastic.

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from Bodacious on 8:48 pm on April 15, 2003
Traumatized there goes that word again. Blah blah blah AK47 dont put word's in my mouth , where did I say "We're the Greatest Nation in the History of the World"? you cant your just running your pigyapper again.



You posted a link to some bullshit site about isreil. That obviously means that you agree with the site. And guess what that site said that the USA is the greatest nation in the history of the world. I was simply proving that site wrong.

[redstar2000]

I don't think anyone can say at this point if Syria will be the "next" imperial conquest...there are so many possibilities.

What can be said with certainty is that there will be many more wars of conquest by the United States.

Once a nation embarks on the road to empire, there can be no rest. Either a rebellious province must be subdued or a fresh conquest beckons...and often both.

While our cappies celebrate present blitzkriegs and anticipate future ones, we may take some comfort from history.

The ancient Babylonians, for example, despised their Assyrian conquerers and rose in repeated rebellion against them. The Assyrians ruthlessly crushed every rebellion...except the last one.

The Babylonians marched to Assyria, sacked and burned it to the ground...and that was the end of Assyria...forever.

Something to think about. :)

:cool:

[Boris Moskovitz]

Yeah... Too bad the US has those nuclear warheads keeping us from waging war on them... T_T

[hazard]

I'd really like to see Bush get ANY support for an invasion of syrais. he could hardly drive up enough support for an invasion of iraq, let alone an invasion at all. 2 arab nations, one right after the other? go for it bush. lets see how far u get with that.

[Boris Moskovitz]

hazard... Have you ever heard of the Hitlerian brainwashing? :biggrin: Thats what they did it to some of my friends. Really... If you keep hearing again and again "Syria must be liberated from whatever". You might just get caught into the stupidity... Unless you are smart enough to not listen to his stupid speeches, or that you are smart enough to resist the messages, which I find easy.

But Bush is no Hitler, so I doubt anyone here would be brainwashed... Except for the ones who have already been brainwashed!

[Umoja]

Most people don't realize that Chemical weapons aren't illegal. The only reason it was a problem for Iraq is that the UN told them to disarm. Nuclear Weapons are illegal, but Israel, India and Pakistan have them against treaty.

Another reason why invading Syria is bad. Last time the West really screwed around and made Israel, the Arabs nearly united into one nation, and Pan-Arabism still exist.

[hazard]

chemical weapons are actually a completely legal way to kill somebody in the states. more legal than the electric chair, less legal than injection.

[HankMorgan]

Quote: from Boris Moskovitz on 9:06 pm on April 15, 2003
Now now... I really agree on this one with HankMorgan... It is true... The Americans have already made an expansion in Iraq, now, they must feed the people and try to show them an illusion that America cares about the Iraqis, which they don't. But to be a good liar, you must lie. America must now take care iof he little things going on in Iraq, and then, when they are done with that, they can go barbaric again and attack any other countries.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want the invasion and I never wanted. But before going to other conquests, you must first take care of your brand-new puppet state, don't you agree?

PS: I am not for the war ;). It was obvious that I was being sarcastic.


Boris Moskovitz, I did support the war on Saddam Hussein and I do care about the Iraqi people. You'll have to take my word for it but I'm not the only one.

I don't want to see a puppet state. Japan and Germany are hardly puppets of the US. That's the model that should be followed. Iraq is a perfect opportunity to get it right.

NO. No war in Syria.

[Boris Moskovitz]

I didn't said you didn't supported the war on Iraq, I only agreed with you when you said you were against the war on Syria, and I know you are for the one on Iraq. But if you didn't wanted a puppet state... Then there would be most chances that you will be decieved. The Americans will, or probably already have, installed an All-American system at the gouvernment. Japan and Germany are not puppet states because their economy both have grown so insanely since the end of the war. So, now, they are both economic powers in the world. Japan is the 2nd, and Germany is the 3rd... You probably know who is the 1st... 9_9

I doubt that Iraq will get independence from the US, and I tell you, that war has created 100 Osama Bin Ladens... More Muslims hate the Americans now... And imagine the next one... and the next one, and the next one.... ..... and the next one... etc...

[HankMorgan]

Saddam Hussein was(is?) a secular leader without any friends to speak of. His passing won't be mourned. The Islamist radicals that wish to destroy the US would have existed whether or not the US put Hussein out of business. I don't think 100 more Bin Ladens were created by Hussein's defeat.

Germany and Japan weren't puppets of the US even when their economies were small after WW2. It was never intended to make them colonies or puppets. The US needs to do the same in Iraq. One good step would be to pull the US troops out of Germany and Japan. Make a big show demonstrating how the US doesn't remain in countries where it has defeated an evil government.

[hazard]

germany wasn't a puppett because the mighty soviet empire was there to prevent germany from becoming a puppett

japan was a puppett, and still is a puppett

[Boris Moskovitz]

Oh... But they will remain in Iraq... Wouldn't you just want some of that precioussss oil? I would :biggrin:! But really, the troops of the American Army has remained in Saudi Arabia, as they will in Kuwait, and so will they in Iraq. But really, it has been piblicly announced by Dubya that he would install an All-American gouvernment in Iraq. Now, that's imperialism. If theres an American gouvernment in Iraq, why wouldn't you think there would be no government in Iraq? Why would you think America would be so generous? They never do anything for free. Theres a price the Iraqis have to pay for the riddance of Saddam:
Their Nation...

hazard: AAAaaarrrghhh! I hate when we post right before me!

(Edited by Boris Moskovitz at 10:39 am on April 16, 2003)

[hazard]

sorry comrade, if you want I can make it up to you by providing a boris avatar ala. Red Alert 2. that way I won't be the only one with an RA2 avatar in chelives.

[Invader Zim]

May the oil be good while it lasts them. Its all gone in 40 years (predicted). They then will have to use hydroelectric and other enviro-friendly forms of getting power.

Or they could invest in furthering reaserch into hydrogen as a fuel. There is a myth going round that hydrogen is dangerous, well no more than petrol.

Another horrific fact about iraq is that now water is more expensive than oil...

(Edited by AK47 at 12:01 pm on April 16, 2003)

[IHP]

"The reasons for deposing the Iraqi tyrant apply to the Syrian despot as well. Syria is a sponsor of terrorism, has a thriving chemical weapons program, and has massacred its own citizens. The only significant difference is that while Saddam Hussein tried to hide his terrorist links, Bashar al-Asad prefers an in-your-face approach.

Syria appeared on the U.S. State Department's very first list of countries sponsoring terrorism. Two Palestinian terrorist groups, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, are headquartered in Damascus.

Regime change in Damascus and the simultaneous liberation of Syrian occupied Lebanon could have positive consequences well beyond the two countries. Driving Hezbollah out of Lebanon and Palestinian terrorist groups out of Syria would be a major victory in the war against terrorism. It could also help bring the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to an end."

Oh, Lover boy what are you doing now? I didn;t think you'd stoop as low as this, but then again I should have expected it.

I direct my comrades to here:

http://www.israelforum.com/dynamix/page.pl?sn=136

He doesn't even use his own arguments anymore. At least credit someone elses work mate.

What a joke.

--IHP

(Edited by i hate pinochet at 5:53 am on April 17, 2003)

[Liberty Lover]

LOL. I shouldn't have put that picture there.

(Edited by Liberty Lover at 9:06 am on April 17, 2003)

[Liberty Lover]

Quote: from Dhul Fiqar on 12:27 pm on April 15, 2003
ROFLMAO, I love how capitalists that have never even talked to an Arab have all the long-term insights into the psychology of the Arab world.

Here's the plan so far:
"We kill lots of them - they love us."
Hmn, well, a couple of flaws in the logic but it's a start, no? ;)

--- G.


What is this supposed to mean? That Arabs enjoy being oppressed? That the Kurds wanted operation Anfal?

This sounds like the argument used by ‘closet’ white supremacists when they criticise the Yankee's for engaging in the war to emancipate the slaves without asking the slaves wether they wanted to be emancipated.

[Liberty Lover]

AK:
Terrorism: Ireland has terrorists, i dont see the USA planning to invade Ireland. Same with Spain.

Syria is a terrorist supporter. Ireland and Spain are not.

[Sabocat]

Quote: from Liberty Lover on 4:08 pm on April 17, 2003
AK:
Terrorism: Ireland has terrorists, i dont see the USA planning to invade Ireland. Same with Spain.

Syria is a terrorist supporter. Ireland and Spain are not.

The US is a terrorist supporter giving money and weapons to both Bin Laden and Saddam.

[Liberty Lover]

Well...a more accurate accusation would be that "the US was a terrorist supporter giving money and weapons to both Bin Laden and Saddam."

[Bodacious]

Make your mind up Disgustapated which is it? you cant have it both way's. Let's go back 20 or 30 year's when Iran was pulling it's shit and we unwisely tryed fighting fire with fire pitting Arab agaisnt Arab.Well we saw from the Kurd's to the Iranian's they will kill each other at a drop of a hat.

Russia of all country's should know this , they hate you as bad as us, hell they hate anyone that isnt a Arab. Hate the wrong word? I think not. You cant deal with someone that has been taught from there frist breath's of air to kill Infidel's to get to Paradise any different.Even your peace loving French are trying to weasel back in now that they lost there Saddam contract's. If we dont take down Syria and Iran now we will have to go back in 5 or 10 year's.

[redstar2000]

"If we don't take down Syria and Iran now, we will have to go back in 5 or 10 years."

You really are a nauseating little piece of imperialist shit, aren't you, Bodacious?

I'm ready to bet that you actually do "pray to 'God' for our 'great leader George W. Bush.'" I hope that you and your great leader will have a chance to meet one another...in front of a judge at a war crimes tribunal.

There are some vermin who just "bring out the Stalin in me." :angry:

:cool:

[Chiak47]

Red,

Lookie here laftie...Just do yourself in.If you keep getting worked up over the opinions on the net then your likely to get a stroke and end up in a nursing home calling all the cheap nurses aids your hoes as you reach your ghastly gray arm towards them for a quick touch.
I will laugh as you lay there.Just SHY of vegetable state in a state run med center with sexual beasts and lone maniacs roaming the very hallway you watch day in and day out.

You led a pathetic life and you have been a hypocrite too long....You preach how everyone should be the same but yet you talk of purging those who think differently.You also preach how we should pay the unlucky sob's in this world and how no one should be put out front but yet you can afford to fly all over the damn world.
Damn hypocrite.Seems like you reaped the benefits of the very system you dispise and would love to see die.
You sound like a spoiled brat who had the whole world in the palm of your hands along with the silver spoon in your mouth.What happened?Did the family cut you off?
Mad cause you were circumcised?Talk too me man.
What did the family think of your laftie route in life?They probably thought it was cute till they figured you were not leaving the couch.Clog in the cog.Time to clean the machine.

.22 to the temple will clear all bad memories and I pray for the day you ask for leniancy.Suicide is painless.....

BTW Stalin was a moron and if that is what is "coming out in you" then I have to say it has been out for awhile.
Just a observation.

Oh and to Red's clan...I think he can handle this by himself.No need to chime in with open puppy dog eyes wide open.He prays on young em's.Like a pedophile with a fiery stalin inside.Be scared young ones cause a beast is out amongst you portraying himself as a friend when in fact dark intentions are all over him and his false words- subtle like.
He has no love and no honor.For him communism is a free ride and your hearts are the airbags to stop disaster.

Thanks,
A old friend willing to help out


http://www.freedommag.org/english/vol34I1/img/pg07_3.gif

[Hampton]

What does this have to do with Syria?

[Chiak47]

Hampton,

He threatened to purge which I found not funny due to the fact 20,000,000 were killed last time "stalin" purged.
So being the bleeding heart I am-I objected.Pure and simple.

Thanks,
Nothing to see here...Keep moving into the cattle cars

[IHP]

"LOL. I shouldn't have put that picture there."

Or you could actually write your own arguments. Don't accuse Peacce of just supplying links, and then plagiarise someones work. Thats a good boy.

--IHP

(Edited by i hate pinochet at 7:01 am on April 18, 2003)

[redstar2000]

Chiak47, I have no idea what my family thinks of my life...since I've had zero contact with them for more than four decades. They were not real nice folks...like you.

You keep talking as if I should want to commit suicide...why this rather strange obsession? Do you believe that I am so effective at spreading communist ideas that I must be, in some fashion, "stopped"? And since you can't do it, you want me to do it for you?

What a foolish person you are. Don't you understand that if Marx was right, you could kill all the communists in the whole world...and the ideas would arise again in the next generation because material conditions demand it. It's not a matter of "evil genius" or even "evil thoughtfulness" (my level)...your own beloved system has created its own executioners.

You may wish to "shoot the messenger" as much as you like (since, in fact, you can't)...but you can hardly expect the messenger to shoot himself.

:cool:

[Guest1]

Quote: from The Sniper on 3:22 pm on April 15, 2003
now Syria has a better ecomomy (no UN sacations), better military (it hasnt been having to recover for 10 years) and much more public support (Bashar al-Asad is much more pro-religion than Saddam)

Wrong, sorry to tell you. Syria's government is a much more open government than many in the middle east, at least now. Alcohol drinking is allowed, and unlike Jordan, you are allowed to get drunk too. Syria has a VERY secular government. That's one of the basics of the Ba'ath party platform, and one of the reasons Syria considers the Iraqi Ba'ath party traitors.

[Chiak47]

Red,

PM on the way.Please reply...

Thanks,Eric

[Cassius Clay]

Quote: from Chiak47 on 7:19 pm on April 17, 2003
Hampton,

He threatened to purge which I found not funny due to the fact 20,000,000 were killed last time "stalin" purged.
So being the bleeding heart I am-I objected.Pure and simple.

Thanks,
Nothing to see here...Keep moving into the cattle cars



Mr Chaik47 when you started a thread 'Gulag' or something you alledged something similar to that rubbish (20 million) and yet you failed to provide one slice of evidence to back it up. I will ask once again what so hard to understand the U$ today has three million more people in prison than the USSR ever had?

[Sabocat]

Quote: from Bodacious on 9:32 pm on April 17, 2003
Make your mind up Disgustapated which is it? you cant have it both way's. Let's go back 20 or 30 year's when Iran was pulling it's shit and we unwisely tryed fighting fire with fire pitting Arab agaisnt Arab.Well we saw from the Kurd's to the Iranian's they will kill each other at a drop of a hat.

Russia of all country's should know this , they hate you as bad as us, hell they hate anyone that isnt a Arab. Hate the wrong word? I think not. You cant deal with someone that has been taught from there frist breath's of air to kill Infidel's to get to Paradise any different.Even your peace loving French are trying to weasel back in now that they lost there Saddam contract's. If we dont take down Syria and Iran now we will have to go back in 5 or 10 year's.



I don't understand the point you're trying to make. You say make up my mind? On what? I just pointed out that the U$ supported (gave weapons, support, and money)to Bin Laden and Saddam. What am I supposed to make up my mind about?

The U$ has labeled Iraq and Bin Laden "evil and terrorists" and yet they are well documented in giving them money and arms.

I was making the point of support of terrorism. How do you define support?

[Lefty]

Wow. Wow... I am at a loss for words to describe how incredibly disgusting the pro-invasion of syria people are. I have had the opportunity to talk to many people from syria here taking college courses at ISU, and after talking to them, I have honestly never been more disillusioned with the U.S.'s supposedly benevolent freedom loving image. Seriously, the Syrians are afraid of us. The people and the government haven't done anything wrong. There are no "phantom" chemical weapons. The Iraqi ruling class has not all immigrated to Syria. The people there are afraid of U.S. bombardment, and the people that I have talked to say that they just want the U.S. to stay out of Syria and the rest of the middle east.

"If the U.S decides to bomb my country, I want to go back, give up everything I have worked towards in my entire life, and die with my family. I do not care about anything else."
-Medj Abdullah, one of the Syrians that I have talked to

Just to put this quote in perspective, she and the rest of her Syrian friends all were born into poverty (I wont get into why) and they worked for almost 30 years (they are all between 40 and 50) to be able to go to college here. And everyone i have talked to is willing to go back to Syria to "die with their family."
Meh.