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nuisance
7th October 2008, 21:35
Ok, basically I'm debating for the abolition of the British Monarchy at my debating society and was wondering if anyone here had any sites with statistics and such on it.
Also your general reasons for the abolition of this institution are welcome.

Pirate turtle the 11th
7th October 2008, 22:05
It formally upholds a class system and tells people "getting your arse kissed because you came out the right vagina is A-OK"

spice756
8th October 2008, 01:22
Why worship British Monarchy ? The monarchy is of the past and is hierarchy and authoritative.It worships the rich and aristocratic.

We are for poor and do away of monarchy,hierarchy,aristocratic,class and give the poor power to rule not some aristocratic who rule.

nuisance
8th October 2008, 02:05
People, I was asking predominatly for statistics, for example how much does the tourism the British Royal Family produce amount to economically, opposed to the money spent on their up keep.

Comrada J
8th October 2008, 03:21
Surely the sole reason for the existence of the British monarchy isn't the tourism it attracts. I guess its a cultural thing, in which case it could be hard to argue. In my country, it's possible for your queen to dissolve the government and do other crazy things like that, but in our case we should simply secede from the commonwealth.

Rosa Provokateur
8th October 2008, 03:58
Ok, basically I'm debating for the abolition of the British Monarchy at my debating society and was wondering if anyone here had any sites with statistics and such on it.
Also your general reasons for the abolition of this institution are welcome.
One source they probably won't challenge is the Bible; in 1 Samuel chapter 8, the Israelites demand God to give them a king where before they had none and God warns them that a king will basically fuck them up.

For contemporary language I'd use the Message translation but the New Living Translation and New International Version work pretty well too.

Look it up (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1SAM%208;&version=65;) and you cant lose:thumbup1:

Sendo
8th October 2008, 04:11
couldn't you get as much tourism money for London by turning everything into museums. Who needs to have living prima donnas with sex scandals to spur interest in seeing the palace.

Better question. What will you call the UK now? I don't want a new acronym so how about, the United Kindred or something like that.

revolution inaction
8th October 2008, 10:30
One source they probably won't challenge is the Bible; in 1 Samuel chapter 8, the Israelites demand God to give them a king where before they had none and God warns them that a king will basically fuck them up.


This is the uk not texas, its kind of interesting that it says that but its not going to win any debates.

Trystan
8th October 2008, 11:22
"People say tourists come to Britain because of the monarchy. Well, it's not like you get to the top of the Eiffel Tower and think 'well it's just not the same without a monarchy is it?'" - Mark Steel (paraphrase).

That's all I got, sorry.

thejambo1
8th October 2008, 20:05
abolish the monarchy because they are basically inbred parasitic fuckwits. feel free to use in your debate.:laugh:

Holden Caulfield
9th October 2008, 00:43
not that this helps either but the whole tourism thing can be easily retorted with "yeah when i went to Versailles it was dead, there were no tourists because no monarch resided there...oh wait"

RebelDog
9th October 2008, 02:56
If we reward hereditary and privilege we might as well reward those with big feet and good local scenery.

Rosa Provokateur
9th October 2008, 04:08
This is the uk not texas, its kind of interesting that it says that but its not going to win any debates.
It wont win the entire thing but its good ammunition. I'd also add that since the monarchy doesnt really do anything, its a waste of tax dollars (or pounds).