The Music of Capitalism - Perhaps in the interest of slight,

[Dhul Fiqar]

It has struck me that many kinds of music seem to stretch across political boundaries.

What do you cappies and stalinists like to listen to?

--- G.

[Tkinter1]

punk,metal,hardcore.

(Edited by Tkinter1 at 4:09 pm on April 10, 2003)

[Dhul Fiqar]

Many punk/hardcore bands are anarchist/leftist, how do you feel about that? ;)

--- G.

[Boris Moskovitz]

Stalinists... I don't know...

But Capitalists... How about pop music? I mean garbage such as Britney Spears, Backstreet Boys, NSYNC, and etc...

[Hayduke]

Quote: from Dhul Fiqar on 9:17 pm on April 10, 2003
Many punk/hardcore bands are anarchist/leftist, how do you feel about that? ;)

--- G.


Hardcore mostly leftist anarchist ?

You might reconsider that statement since many hardcore bands are racist.

[Comrade Otaku]

I'm leftist and I love hardcore, punk and metal. Bands like Maiden, Sex Pistols, etc.

[Chiak47]

Acid Bath,Danzig,Zakk Wylde's Black Label Society,Kid Rock,Johnny Cash,David Allen Coe,AC/DC,Crispon Glover,GWAR,KORN,SLIPKNOT,Mudvayne,Marilyn Manson,
Smashing Pumpkins,TOOL,and Ted Nugent

Just to name the ones on the CD I just burned.

I know some of them are lafties but the lyrics are cool.
I hate c(rap).My wife listens to r&b and sometimes I would love to rip the radio out of the truck when we are driving together.

Thanks,
Nuge

[Politrickian]

You just got a slight bit of respect for your taste of music.

Hehe. Just joking. I always had respect for you, about the same amount of respect you have for the French.

:)

[Chiak47]

Chris Cornell/RATM is cool...SONY helped em out and all.

I have been listening to Manchester United And The Status Quo (come on you REDS) recently...

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from Chiak47 on 6:35 pm on April 10, 2003
Acid Bath,Danzig,Zakk Wylde's Black Label Society,Kid Rock,Johnny Cash,David Allen Coe,AC/DC,Crispon Glover,GWAR,KORN,SLIPKNOT,Mudvayne,Marilyn Manson,
Smashing Pumpkins,TOOL,and Ted Nugent

Just to name the ones on the CD I just burned.

I know some of them are lafties but the lyrics are cool.
I hate c(rap).My wife listens to r&b and sometimes I would love to rip the radio out of the truck when we are driving together.

Thanks,
Nuge


what does your wife listen to?

I listen to a very wide variaty of music, but mostly rock and Indi.

(Edited by AK47 at 7:03 pm on April 10, 2003)

[Chiak47]

What is Indi?

I should have said my wife likes all music except the music I like...LOL
She listens to Macy Gray and shit like that when she is in R&B mode.She is a BIG fan of 60's and 70' rock come to think of it.She likes the Eagles and the Rolling Stones.

Although-Pennywise,The White Stripes,System Of A Down,And Fear Factory has her interests just to name some.

Thanks,
Jammin

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from Chiak47 on 7:13 pm on April 10, 2003
What is Indi?



Independent rock = Indie rock

Basically rock which that bit more than standard rock and that bit less than punk rock.

[Chiak47]

example?

[Tkinter1]

"Many punk/hardcore bands are anarchist/leftist, how do you feel about that?"

They stand for something, I respect that.

Also, I agree with a lot of what they say.

"You might reconsider that statement since many hardcore bands are racist."

What bands are you talking about.

[Chiak47]

racist=Skrewdriver..

[Xvall]

Most hardcore bands aren't racist. Most white supremacist bands, however, are classified under Heavy Metal. Bands like Skrewdriver, Angry Aryans, etc. Most of these bands have a life-span of about two months, and ten times as many enemies as they do fans.

[Chiak47]

Wasnt the lead singer of Skrewdriver killed by some reds?

If so that the most brilliant thing reds ever did.

[Tkinter1]

Well there has to be at least one racist band for every style of music.

The hardcore I listen to definitley isn't racist... XIIIPFP, Inkling, Narcissus, Vision Of Disorder, Atreyu, Manhunt, Inane .... that style of hardcore.

[Umoja]

I'm mostly into Rap (Either Political or Jazz-Rap), Some smooth R&B and Jazz(Smoother the better). Generally, I listen to pretty laid back music, except for some rap.

[Chiak47]

Umoja,

Name some names.I listen to jazz and classical when I'm working on my models or trainset.
I need less chaos in my mind.

Thanks,
Eric

[Anonymous]

Industrial and classical.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Any cappies here that like Electronica?
My fav types of music include Trance, Hard Trance, Hard House, Aicid Trance and Gabber.

[Dhul Fiqar]

Any cappies here that like Rage Against the Machine? If not the lyrics, at least the music?? :biggrin:

[Umoja]

Jazzy stuff- Remy Shand (only one song), David Benoit, Dave forget his last name did the peanuts music, Van Morrison, Chuck Mangione (sp?) etc. Crap like that. My favorite Jazz song is probubly "Moutain Dance", great song.

[Chiak47]

DC,
Your a man of good tastes.

Dhul,
My veggie eating friend..
I really like the unrealesed one that Maynard help with.
You can't kill a revolution...BAD ASS..
I'm a big RATM fan.I dig the way they (used) to do free shows and how they would donate money to The Leonard Peltier Defence Fund.My mothers Dad was in Leavenworth for 6 years.Leonard taught helped him bring out his skill to to draw.I have a bead necklace Leonard made and some drawings he helped my granddad with.
I truely believe he was railroaded.

Umoja,
Remy Shand is cool my wife listens to it some.

It's hard making love to Black Label Society...Unless it's the real violent lovemaking.

Thanks,
Still Jammin

[Liberty Lover]

I'm a Beethoven man myself, but i've no objections to the odd bit of Mozart or Haydn

[Dhul Fiqar]

Chiak:

Wow, you learning something new about people every day I guess.

--- G.

[Chiak47]

Dhul,

Interesting topics throughout these forums.

Thanks,
Gotta get into commie club

[Goldfinger]

Jazz (not the "naive" kind), funk, reggae, hip hop, some metal, soul, and a very limited amount of techno.

[Chiak47]

AW,

I really do not like hip-hop.They rap about what cars they drive-how many white *****es they bone-how they can get over on the white man-selling drugs to school kids...Maybe it's just me.I never liked rap.And I'm not racist cause I hate kit-kat also...

Beastie boys Used to be cool...Now they suck ass flowers.And hey they are Jews...


Thanks,
Just a po white boy

[hazard]

u know some one's a capitalist if they start listening to jazz/classical/r&b in heir early twenties. it's a sign that they've already given up. their music must now serve as a sedative to the reality that they are nothing but a bunch of slaves.

[Anonymous]

I prefer Wagner and Brahms myself.

[Anonymous]

Quote: from hazard on 9:40 am on April 13, 2003
u know some one's a capitalist if they start listening to jazz/classical/r&b in heir early twenties. it's a sign that they've already given up. their music must now serve as a sedative to the reality that they are nothing but a bunch of slaves.


Started listening to classical when I was twelve. :biggrin:

(Edited by Dark Capitalist at 10:01 am on April 13, 2003)

[hazard]

looking back, I see now that my theory is mostly correct. next time I'll read the posts before I make a statement. that way I don't look like an idiot for stating the obvious.

dork capitalist:
u really like industrial? I read that the idea behind the music was to scare people out of the manufacturing plants through semi-hypnotic suggestion and sampled sounds from factories? such music is notoriously leftist.

[hazard]

dc:

twelve? your parents should be punished for forcing their child(YOU) into a post rebellious frame of mind prior to your individual rebellion of adolescence. now I understand why you side with the forces of evil.

[Anonymous]

"sampled sounds from factories?"


I happen to like those kinds of sounds. It can be very powerful music.

[Anonymous]

Quote: from hazard on 10:03 am on April 13, 2003
dc:

twelve? your parents should be punished for forcing their child(YOU) into a post rebellious frame of mind prior to your individual rebellion of adolescence. now I understand why you side with the forces of evil.



I listened to it on my own free will.

[Anonymous]

Quote: from Dhul Fiqar on 3:32 pm on April 11, 2003
Any cappies here that like Rage Against the Machine? If not the lyrics, at least the music?? :biggrin:


SOAD

[hazard]

so, you like the sounds of industrial and SOAD, but not the lyrics? i dunno. if I didn't like the lyrics, I wouldn't like the sounds either.

[RedComrade]

I used to a notorious capitalist, I even ran as George W. in the class elections (won of course), at the time I liked Rage. I was only 11-12 so i never really asked what the lyrics were about, I just loved the music. I never really got into Rage hardcore or anything, eventually between a combination of downward class mobility (extreme) and a lack of satisfaction from typical jock life I began to download dead kennedys songs. A brief encounter with inner city poverty and there decayed school system awakened my class concious and only then did i truly begin to listen to rage on a regular basis and appreciate it. Favorite bands now: the Clash, the Pogues, Rage, A.F.I, Dead Kennedys. I am interested in hearing more good salsa, celtic, and classic music. Suggestions for really good songs/ bands (not just leftist ones but just good music) would be very much appreciated comrades.

[Anonymous]

Wagner - Overture to Tannhauser
Wagner - Ride of the Valkyries
Wagner - Tristan and Isolde
Wagner - The Flying Dutchman
Wagner - Twilight of the Gods
Wagner - The Rheingold: Journey Down To Nibelheim
Wagner - Faust Overture
Beethoven - Symphony No. 9 (Ode to Joy)
Beethoven - Symphony No. 5
Beethoven - Symphony No. 7
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata
Mozart - Symphony No. 40, 1st movement
Mozart - Marriage of Figaro
Mozart - Fur Elise
Mozart - Turkish March
Mozart - Piano Concerto No. 20, 2nd movement
Mozart - Eine Kleine Nacht Musik
Liszt - Hungarian Rhapsody
Brahms - A German Requiem
Brahms - Hungarian Dance No. 3
Brahms - Hungarian Dance No. 5
Brahms - Waltz in A Flat
Vide Cor Meum - Libretto from Dante's La Vita Nuova (composed by Patrick Cassidy for the movie Hannibal)
Carl Orff - O Fortuna (Fortune Imperatrix Mundi, Fortune Plango Vulnera)
Peter Gynt - In The Hall of the Mountain King


As for folk music, my favorite would have to be Men of Harlech (Welsh).


(Edited by Dark Capitalist at 1:58 pm on April 13, 2003)

[RedComrade]

Thanks DC, ill chek it out

[Invader Zim]

DC you should try listning to a bit of Hoslt, the planets suit is an excelent piece of work.

(Edited by AK47 at 11:49 am on April 13, 2003)

[Anarcho]

I listen to older Metal (Pantera, old Metallica, Anthrax).
I enjoy Industrial (Fear Factory, KMFDM, Coal Chamber).
I like goth (Type O Negative, Switchblade Symphony, Bauhaus).

I enjoy dance/techno (Dune, Oakenfold, Happycore).
Classical is sublime (Beethoven, Handel, Mozart).
Some rap is fun in the right mood (DMX, Tupac, Snoop).
New Age is calming (Tangerine Dreams, Tubular Bells).
Classic Rock ownz (Black Sabbath, Steppenwolf, CCR).

Music is the one thing that truly unites us, from the Indian Sitar to the Irish Hammered Dulcimer to the drums of all cultures the world over.

Hazard, have you ever considered that not everything has a political meaning?

[suffianr]

*Oakie graced us with his divine presence just last night, live in Kuala Lumpur!*

There's nothing bourgeoise about classical music.

Sure, those eighteenth century yobs used to get all worked up with their music signifying their exquisite and superior tastes and all, but music is music. If classical music brings to mind a bunch of fat women in push-ups walking down red-carpeted hallways on the arms of frumpy old foggies in coat-tails, well then, you're living in the past. Of course, a lot of people think classical music is pretentious. But then again, a lot of people think dance music is pretentious (Hello, canikickit ;) ).

I don't think so. Maybe you're buying into the marketing. A lot of people equate dance music with those glitzy superclubs like MOS or Cream, with beautiful people smacked out of their heads waving glowsticks all over the place. That, to a certain degree, is a merely superficial. That's just one side of it. The ugly side, if you like.

But there's alot more to it than Heineken-sponsored dance events or 36-hour beach parties in Thailand. There's also the underground scene; there are loads of bedroom DJ's and indie producers working underneath all that hype, constantly pushing the technical limitations of sound, there are the MC's and freestylers, the hardcore ravers who backpack from venue to venue following their favourite DJ's. Like any other scene, if you care to look hard enough, there's always something there.

Back to classical music, yeah, fuck what people think. If you like it. it's yours to enjoy.

[Dhul Fiqar]

Quote: from suffianr on 11:45 pm on April 13, 2003

But there's alot more to it than Heineken-sponsored dance events or 36-hour beach parties in Thailand.

Funny you should mention 36-hour Thai beach parties, though, since I have it on good authority they can really kick ass... ;)

--- G.

[suffianr]

Hehe...Koh Pha Ngan parties are definitely worth checking out, even if you might end up losing a girlfriend along the way...Cheers, Dhul :biggrin:

[Sirion]

Quote: from Dark Capitalist on 8:55 am on April 13, 2003

Peter Gynt - In The Hall of the Mountain King


Actually, the componist that created In the Hall of the Mountain King was Edvard Hagerup Grieg. However, it was originally created for a play called Per (not Peter) Gynt.

For the interested, check ou Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow's rock version. Unusuall, but I still think it is a very good song...

[von Mises]

Dark capitalist,

You forgot the New world symphony of Antonin Dvorak, written while he was in the US. It celebrates the free and prosperous society of that time.

[Solzhenitsyn]

I lean toward classic rock and prog metal in rock. although I can listen to almost anything except rap an rap metal. I think NuMetal is junk just like it's ancestor, punk. As far as real music goes I prefer folk and choral over classical symphonic music.

My ten favorite bands and their best album:

1. Led Zeppelin Physical Graffitti

What can I say about Pagey and co.?

2. Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here

One of the great bands of all time. WYWH barely beats Dark Side of the Moon. Animals and The Final Cut delve too far into Water's excesses. The Wall has a few excellent tracks mainly written by Gilmore, the rest of the album is filler.

3. Sandy Denny No More Sad Refrains

She also fronted Fairport Convention and the Strawbs for a while. Angelic voice with amazing song writing. Folk/Folk Rock at its finest.

4. Iron Maiden Seventh Son of the Seventh Son

There simply isn't a better Heavy Metal band than Maiden. They essentially developed into a prog metal act and really expanded the themes covered by metal to include history "The Trooper", mythology "Flight of Icarus" and poetry "Rime of the Ancient Mariner". Up to SSOTSS, their albums are chock full of absolute killer cuts. Afterwards, they seem bored and distracted. The latest Brave New World is a definite step in the right direction. Having regrouped, maybe than can lead an assault against this shit that passes for metal these days.

5. Dream Theater Images and Words
Probably the best true Prog Metal band out there. Masterful musicians. Their entire catalog rocks except for Falling Into Infinity.

6. Van Halen Van Halen
When David Lee Roth was at the helm, VH was mind blowing. Van Hagar quickly degenerated into shitty light rock.

7. Queensrÿche Empire

Quintessential Prog Metal band. They've had consistent output over the years although they get little attention anymore.

8. Metallica Master of Puppets
Metallica essentially released two excellent albums (RTL and MOP) and two OK albums (KEA, AJFA). The rest of their catalog is total crap.

9. Robert Plant The Principle of Moments
Former Zeppelin front man makes excellent music. Sort of Zep meets the Floyd meets Phil Collins.

10. Mazzy Star So Tonite I Might See
Psychedelic-Trance rock. Sad they don't have a larger catalog.

[hazard]

there's nothing 'capitalist' about classical music, except that , as a trend, people in capitalist nations tend to start enjoying it after their youth. at such time, their music is no longer rebellious and only an indication of their desire to give up. to surrender to thirty or forty years of forced, monotonous, pointless labour. only the soothing timelessness of classical music gives these sorry slaves the impression that their life not only has meaning, currently, but that it will make a lasting impression upon the world. they are, of course, wrong on both counts. for sell outs, their history ends one pay check at a time.

[Anonymous]

Bullshit.

[Solzhenitsyn]

DC

It must be horrible to have as bleak a view of humanity as hazard does.

[hazard]

no, thats SERIOUS shit. dork capitalist, if you are making an effort to get permanently banned, for all time, keep making posts like that my shady friend.
becausae you are a supporter of capitalism, I fear I must use a carrot to lead you on abit. what, specifically is bullshit about my post? the fact that you were forced to submit at a young age? the fact that you like classical music? the fact that you are a sellout. gimmie something you dork. gimmie anything you dork capitalist.

[synthesis]

Alex:

I dig your top two. Wasn't Sandy Denny the woman who dueted with Robert Plant on 'The Battle of Evermore'? I LOVE that song.

I gotta say, I don't care for the rest of your list, but Physical Graffiti was a fantastic album.

You should listen to some Soundgarden.

[Som]

...Stop being so damned hostile.

Was a civil thread.

always bringing politics into things.

[hazard]

I was being civil

[Solzhenitsyn]

DyerMaker,

It has not escaped my attention the you took your name from the fifth track on Houses of the Holy. Always a pleasure to meet another Zep fan no matter the circumstances.

Yes, that's the same Sandy Denny. She was admired by Plant and Page and was associated with Led Zeppelin for some time. If you like the acoustic work on LZ III you'll love her albums and her those of her two bands Fairport Convention and the Strawbs.

I personally picked PG over the pundit consensus, IV, because of one song "Ten Years Gone" which is my favorite by them.

Metal is a bit of an acquired taste. I won't hold that against you since you're obviously a gentleman/lady of high aesthetical standards.

Soundgarden is excellent music, no question about that I don't know why they slipped my mind. It's a shame they were flayed by the entertainment press about being a Zep tribute band. I really ought to bump Mazzy Star.

[Solzhenitsyn]

"I was being civil"

Bullshit. You we're looking to drag down the thread into a senseless political discussion about how capitalists are brainwashed etc,. Stop being so facetious. If you want to have a political discussion then start a new thread and DarkCap or whoever will be glad to tear you a new asshole.

[hazard]

no, thats SERIOUS shit

I think I introduced these ideas into the thread about three days ago. if anybody had a problem with it, they shoulda said something then. as for the idea of tearing holes, bring it on chumps. the dork can try, the dork will fail.

this thread may be a "civil" one, but the board ain't. u want a "civil" discussion, go to the music board. for your info, I was neither trying to be funny nor would the timing of my attempt been innapropriate had I been trying. and, for the record, this IS STILL my being civil.

[Anarcho]

hazard- You're level of civility in the Real World would get you in a lot of trouble. I think you're using the anonymity of the Internet to make boorish, rude and uncultured threats and comments to others here, many of whom have had nothing ill to speak about you.

I mentioned just a few posts after your thoughts on Classical Music that somtimes politics doesn't enter into something. You didn't respond.

There appears to be some great music mentioned here. I'll be checking them out, once I get moved....

[hazard]

actually I did respond. something about not having a problem with it three nights ago. but now? oh, we're having a 'civil' discussion. well la-dee-da, ho-ho-ho. good for you. like I give a fuck.

why would you capitalize "real world"? that is kinda strange. you probably mean free world, dontcha? and you're right. you can't tell your boss to fuck off because you'll get fired. if you get fired, you can't eat. and, if you can't eat, you die. now thats freedom for you. even worse, I can't tell a co worker to fuck off for the same reason. come to think of it, I'm not free to tell anyone to fuck off. what a free world I live in. I'm so free I'm getting light headed. maybe I'll go flick on some classical music and the disillusion that comes with it.

as for your claim that I'm hiding behind the internet, specifically now, I've said nothing here that I wouldn't say in a bar, on the telephone or in a coffeeshop. I assume that I'm speaking amongst at least moderately tolerant people and most of the time I am. now shut your corn hole and tolerate it.

[Anarcho]

I'm quite tolerant... in fact, I'm quite a bit more tolerant than you, I would wager.

You want to have the freedom to impose your will, and your feelings, on anyone, for no reason. I disagree with this in principle.

As for real world, well, I mean the day-to-day, get up and live it world that we all must make our way through, regardless of politics or any other ephemeral beliefs.

I've seen you lambast those that disagree with you by swearing and making up childish names. I've seen you refuse to get involved in an actual debate because those that wish to debate with you want to broaden the horizens of the debate.

If I were at a bar, and some guy started swearing at the people next to him for no real reason, I'm pretty sure I would quickly see 1-a fight and 2- someone get kicked out of the bar.

hazard, with all due respect you're posts in many ways are the exact reason that OI is such a cesspool of extremism and illogic. You come in and make blanet statements, you are rude to anyone who shows Cappie sentiment, you curse and are vulgar, it seems, at any opportunity.

I'm all for better moderation of OI, but I fear that it would be a moderation of one segment, while another group would be free to run wild.

"Four legs good, two legs bad" indeed.

[hazard]

for somebody so tolerant, anarcho, you seem to have a plethora of mean things to say. so far it is only you who have made personal insults here. your mischaracterization of my personality is but one of these.

your second paragraph seems to contradict your name. isn't that what anarchy is all about? but I won't call you a fucking moron. no, that wouldn't be civil.

paragraph 4 is hilarious. show me ONE debate where this has happened. I don't think you will, though, because it has never happened. but I won't call you a fucking liar. no, that wouldn't be civil.

the rest of your post is filler. SPAM. this is the reason why the OI hass become the so called cess pool. but thanks for the summary. it was very inciteful. too bad it has nothing to do with anything. seriously, if you're that interested in what I say, look at ALL I have said. you don't get your third star for nothing.

[Anarcho]

stars mean nothing. Quality is far more important than quantity, when it comes to something like this forum.

Unless you're acknowledging that some of the Cappies like Captain America are better and more deserving of respect than you, since they have 4 stars.....?

In any number of threads in this forum, I've seen cappies disagree with you, and you respond by calling them dorks, losers, ignorant... etc. All of those are insulting. I wouldn't let anyone call me those things IRL without responding in kind. In the post you started about how capitalism cannot compete against communism in research, I posted a response calling in Real World examples. You've said those don't count, since this is just an intellectual exercise. I want to broaden the debate, but you refuse because the Real World disproves your theory.

My name is a word. It's vauge, and can mean many things. But Anarchy is not the freedom to do whatever you want, regardless of the consequences. That's Nihilsim.

I've read much of what you've posted since I came back. You are aggressive and rude to anyone who disagrees with you. And coating that rudeness with sarcastic niceties doesn't make it anybetter.

But then, you don't get 3 stars for nothing....

[notyetacommie]

I really like listening to classical music- opera mostly. It beats me how some people say that all classical music is crap and right wing, or only for the rich. Do you people know that Wagner took part in the French Revolution? Do you know that Schuman wrote articles critisizing what now will be known as right-wing music?
Do you know that Schubert died of malnutrition? Have you listened to Mussorgsky's Boris Godunov?

Anyway, I also like sophisticated rock, early King Crimson, for instance.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Quote: from Chiak47 on 6:35 pm on April 10, 2003
Acid Bath,Danzig,Zakk Wylde's Black Label Society,Kid Rock,Johnny Cash,David Allen Coe,AC/DC,Crispon Glover,GWAR,KORN,SLIPKNOT,Mudvayne,Marilyn Manson,
Smashing Pumpkins,TOOL,and Ted Nugent

Just to name the ones on the CD I just burned.

I know some of them are lafties but the lyrics are cool.
I hate c(rap).My wife listens to r&b and sometimes I would love to rip the radio out of the truck when we are driving together.

Thanks,
Nuge


Yup, Me hate rap too. They have sometimes good lyrics though.

But I do see a lot of leftist band in ur collection, (good bands)

You do know that u could support the leftist cause with buying and listening this music, this could inflict serieus damage to your ears and hurt ur carefull built up class system!

Just joking, I listen mostly heavy metal, hard rock, punk and I play guitar myself. At this moment I listen to Pantera, 1991 Moscow concert. (another very good organised idea of Jeltsin :D )

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Quote: from notyetacommie on 11:41 am on April 16, 2003
I really like listening to classical music- opera mostly. It beats me how some people say that all classical music is crap and right wing, or only for the rich. Do you people know that Wagner took part in the French Revolution? Do you know that Schuman wrote articles critisizing what now will be known as right-wing music?
Do you know that Schubert died of malnutrition? Have you listened to Mussorgsky's Boris Godunov?

Anyway, I also like sophisticated rock, early King Crimson, for instance.



Your music flavor has nothing to do with ur politicall stance.

I listen some classical too, not much.

I even like Sharp shooters of Talibkweli a lot, because of the lyrics.

I like Kryptonite of the very very captalist band 3 doors down.

[Umoja]

Sharpshooters is a great song, especially the DP verses. I listened to that around my parents, and they thought I was crazy. "I'm one with my gun, I love it like my first son. It protects me..."

Personally, I hate rock music, but that is probubly a cultural bias more then anything else.

[hazard]

anarcho:

give me a couple of examples of where I have done the things you claim I have done. you know, a thread where it took place. nine times out of ten you will find that it is the crapitalists who have insulted first. as for the one instance in ten where it is I who have struck first, call it initiative. if I was working in the business world I'd get paid six figures for behaving like that.

[Anarcho]

I've already pointed out the threads where it has happened, directly, in my view.

Since you are supposed to have the moral high ground, why would you give it up by launching pre-emptive attacks?

You can gain more attention by being calm, and informative. You've made some great points in other threads, but I'm hesitant to back you for fear of being caught in the backlash when you start lambasting anyone who dares to disagree with you.

[hazard]

look at it his way. you walk into a room and you see a half dozen "toughs" who are all gonna try and pop you, sooner or later. sometimes it just makes sense to pop 'em first. so I do. and I don't really take the moral highground in my presentation, that is, my style. 'cuz when I'm super stylin it all comes out. lead with a jab, then a left hook. yeah, I start the stutta step and bomb more lefts upon the fascists - YEAH! the moral highground is my point of departure, but it never has had anything to do with my delivery. ever.

[Sensitive]

Shrug, I'm a communist (Marxist-Leninist) that likes some classical stuff. I dislike most music though, singing just annoys the hell out of me, and so do poems. I mostly like ambient non-singing music.

Hehe, I also like "Sounds of the Soviet Union":
http://www.marxists.org/history/ussr/sounds/index.htm

[Dhul Fiqar]

hazard: No offence in any way meant here, but I'm getting a bit confused as to your age. I thought someone said you were 13, but now you seem to be talking about getting into fights in bars and such...

Do I misremember? Sorry, I just couldn't find the post.

--- G.

[Dhul Fiqar]

I found the post, you are 13, but once again no offence.

I just think you're attitude is a bit big for your age, ya know? I mean there is no way you've ever been in a single barfight (or even in a bar) in your life and you're saying you talk the same way in bars that you do here. If you were old enough to go to one, and you talked like that, I promise you people will kick your ass.

So before that day comes maybe a little gradual change might be in order ;)

--- G.

[Dhul Fiqar]

Oh, and once again, I have seen you make some good points before, so I'm not saying all you do is talk shit. I'm just saying that proportionally, maybe you should talk even less shit :biggrin:

[Chiak47]

Dhul,

Misguided youth.I vote for the re-education camp 50 years minimum.

Thanks,
ME

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Quote: from Umoja on 10:13 pm on April 16, 2003
Sharpshooters is a great song, especially the DP verses. I listened to that around my parents, and they thought I was crazy. "I'm one with my gun, I love it like my first son. It protects me..."

Personally, I hate rock music, but that is probubly a cultural bias more then anything else.


I love the song, "the white man came to africa with rifles and bibles" :biggrin:

But rock rules, especially heavy metal, punk and hardrock.

[Dhul Fiqar]

Quote: from Chiak47 on 9:54 pm on April 18, 2003
Dhul,

Misguided youth.I vote for the re-education camp 50 years minimum.

Thanks,
ME


Nah, we've done away with those inhumane methods of the past. 49 years max now.

--- G.

[Chiak47]

Red,

Commies sure have lost that black touch of death.
But then again Castro is keeping it alive some what.Come to think of it NK is running off at the mouth and sone-I Hope- they will getdealt with.

Back to topic...

Henry Rollins is BAD ASS."liar" is a moving song..

Thanks,
Eric

[Dhul Fiqar]

Bwah, it's all a scam to make more money. Henry Rollins is nothing more than Phil Collins with a wig on, to make twice the money of one artist. Think about it, have you seen them together? ;)

--- G.

[Chiak47]

Interesting Dhul...I'll have to look into that.

[hazard]

dull:

I guess calling me thirteen is supposed be an insult or bad luck or something. guess I'll just keep my fingers crossed until it wears off. superstitious clod.

ever hear of alcoholism? I have. one sign is when people begin associating everything and anything with the booze. know what I'm saying? bet you do.

I say "room", you read "bar"

and then you launch into a tirade ( five posts?! ) while I'm nowhere to be found. as far as proportion goes, dull, maybe you should stop taking a disproportionat share of the alky hall. then you wouldn't be confused. and it might help your breath. BOO YAA!

anything to take a shot at someones breath