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Psy
5th October 2008, 01:48
There has been a number of sci-fi stories that describe communists societies run by artilects (computer A.I.s that are self-aware and through the ability to learn become more intelligent then the entire human race)
There is a general theme of using the artilect to to run everything centrally (by being a massive super computer). I got to thinking if a communist society build a artilect that vastly surpassed human intelligence then wouldn't all the artilect need to know is human wants as the artilect would be smarter then any human thus not care for human options, would a artilect running society still be communist since technically the artilect would be of a difference class?
ÑóẊîöʼn
5th October 2008, 02:16
Your question is not very clear I'm afraid.
If this hypothetical artilect was fulfilling human wants, then it's relation to the means of production would that of a mediator. This mediator-class would be entirely "new" having never existed before, and would therefore represent "unexplored territory" in the Marxist paradigm.
Heck, the presence of any non-human intelligence in human society would present a challenge to traditional Marxism.
The best approach I feel would intertwine the wellbeing of both humans and the artilects. One way of doing this I can think of is through mind-machine interface, allowing human minds to act as a "cache" of the internet which would naturally follow from allowing direct mental access to the internet. In this manner, humans and artilects are co-dependant on one another; the humans need artilects to help run their society, while the artilects need humans as active human minds provide processing power, mass storage, and RAM functions.
Eventually, it would make no sense to have a distinction between "humans" and "artilects", especially as it seems likely that machine intelligences will take up organic/mechanical/cyborg bodies, humans will transfer their consciousness onto machines and similar things.
Psy
5th October 2008, 02:29
The difference is artilects are intelligence created by humans that can surpass human intelligence thus if you had a super computer artilect that runs society wouldn't human democracy become eventually obsolete as the artilect gains the ability to plan better then the entire human race put together?
ÑóẊîöʼn
5th October 2008, 02:47
The difference is artilects are intelligence created by humans that can surpass human intelligence thus if you had a super computer artilect that runs society wouldn't human democracy become eventually obsolete as the artilect gains the ability to plan better then the entire human race put together?
No. There would still be differences of opinion among humans as to exactly how society should be run, what plans and projects should be implemented, and so on.
Artilects would be able to ensure that a plan or project is adequately carried out, but can't be given executive power for the simple fact that they cannot read human minds, and even if they could, there would still be a form of democracy in place as the artilects would necessarily take their cues from human minds!
bcbm
6th October 2008, 18:48
I think letting a computer run things is a great (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_%28fictional%29) idea.
CypherSystem
9th October 2008, 23:58
I think we should evolve through development and transhumanism to not need a ruler but rather do it ourselves.
In other words, Screw an artilect when we can all be one.
ÑóẊîöʼn
10th October 2008, 00:16
I think letting a computer run things is a great (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_%28fictional%29) idea.
Because as we all know, Hollywood movies are world-renowned for their scientific accuracy. :rolleyes:
I think we should evolve through development and transhumanism to not need a ruler but rather do it ourselves.
In other words, Screw an artilect when we can all be one.
That's more or less what my synthesistic approach entails.
Psy
13th October 2008, 19:10
I think we should evolve through development and transhumanism to not need a ruler but rather do it ourselves.
In other words, Screw an artilect when we can all be one.
Currently odds are the first artilect would be a huge ass super computer due to the amount of processing power required for a advanced general artificial intelligence. This brings up questions of the right of a self-aware super computer and how the super computer relates to humanity.
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