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Moskitto
4th April 2003, 16:04
Hey, I'm thinking of making a website advocating the fact that Jeb Bush deserves to be assasinated, maybe more than George Bush and that the US leadership is evil, does anyone know any useful resources?
Just Joe
4th April 2003, 16:06
Illegal.
Goldfinger
4th April 2003, 16:46
That's not fair. If you starve thousands of people to death every day it's ok, and if you try to remove some of the reason for it you get jailed? this isn't working.
Dhul Fiqar
4th April 2003, 17:05
You can easily get around it with disclaimers saying it's a work of fiction, or even just by wording it very very carefully.
It's been done before, with mixed success (not about Jeb though, to my knowledge).
--- G.
Hampton
4th April 2003, 17:25
This is all you need:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statemen...fprinciples.htm (http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm)
truthaddict11
4th April 2003, 20:03
yes someone please kill my "governer"
Dirty Commie
4th April 2003, 20:06
Thanks to who ever started this thread, as a native Floridian I hate that man, he allowed the election to be stolen, he kills the manatees, he burns the everglades. The "Bush" name in general is bad, but Jeb is just as bad as Dubya.
Xvall
5th April 2003, 01:02
Moskitto you are horrible and unamerican! How dare you call for the murder of a wonderful republiklan like Jeb Bush! Why can't you be like the good patriots at deadarab.us and call for the utter annhialation of the Middle-Eastern region!?
HS The Whap
5th April 2003, 01:15
I live in his state. Feel sorry for me :(
Xvall
5th April 2003, 01:48
That really sucks. Who knows; maybe someone around there will 'accidently' mug him in a dark alley or something.
Liberty Lover
5th April 2003, 02:42
Quote: from Hampton on 6:25 pm on April 4, 2003
This is all you need:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statemen...fprinciples.htm (http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm)
Thanks hampton. An excellent site!
Anonymous
5th April 2003, 05:43
Indeed it is.
I've believed for a long time now that the 20th century was merely a prelude to much greater things to come. And this site only affirms it. The 21st century will be the true American century.
Statement of Principles
June 3, 1997
American foreign and defense policy is adrift. Conservatives have criticized the incoherent policies of the Clinton Administration. They have also resisted isolationist impulses from within their own ranks. But conservatives have not confidently advanced a strategic vision of America's role in the world. They have not set forth guiding principles for American foreign policy. They have allowed differences over tactics to obscure potential agreement on strategic objectives. And they have not fought for a defense budget that would maintain American security and advance American interests in the new century.
We aim to change this. We aim to make the case and rally support for American global leadership.
As the 20th century draws to a close, the United States stands as the world's preeminent power. Having led the West to victory in the Cold War, America faces an opportunity and a challenge: Does the United States have the vision to build upon the achievements of past decades? Does the United States have the resolve to shape a new century favorable to American principles and interests?
We are in danger of squandering the opportunity and failing the challenge. We are living off the capital -- both the military investments and the foreign policy achievements -- built up by past administrations. Cuts in foreign affairs and defense spending, inattention to the tools of statecraft, and inconstant leadership are making it increasingly difficult to sustain American influence around the world. And the promise of short-term commercial benefits threatens to override strategic considerations. As a consequence, we are jeopardizing the nation's ability to meet present threats and to deal with potentially greater challenges that lie ahead.
We seem to have forgotten the essential elements of the Reagan Administration's success: a military that is strong and ready to meet both present and future challenges; a foreign policy that boldly and purposefully promotes American principles abroad; and national leadership that accepts the United States' global responsibilities.
Of course, the United States must be prudent in how it exercises its power. But we cannot safely avoid the responsibilities of global leadership or the costs that are associated with its exercise. America has a vital role in maintaining peace and security in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. If we shirk our responsibilities, we invite challenges to our fundamental interests. The history of the 20th century should have taught us that it is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge, and to meet threats before they become dire. The history of this century should have taught us to embrace the cause of American leadership.
Our aim is to remind Americans of these lessons and to draw their consequences for today. Here are four consequences:
• we need to increase defense spending significantly if we are to carry out our global
responsibilities today and modernize our armed forces for the future;
• we need to strengthen our ties to democratic allies and to challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values;
• we need to promote the cause of political and economic freedom abroad;
• we need to accept responsibility for America's unique role in preserving and extending an international order friendly to our security, our prosperity, and our principles.
Such a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity may not be fashionable today. But it is necessary if the United States is to build on the successes of this past century and to ensure our security and our greatness in the next.
Elliott Abrams Gary Bauer William J. Bennett Jeb Bush
Dick Cheney Eliot A. Cohen Midge Decter Paula Dobriansky Steve Forbes
Aaron Friedberg Francis Fukuyama Frank Gaffney Fred C. Ikle
Donald Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad I. Lewis Libby Norman Podhoretz
Dan Quayle Peter W. Rodman Stephen P. Rosen Henry S. Rowen
Donald Rumsfeld Vin Weber George Weigel Paul Wolfowitz
Pete
5th April 2003, 05:47
This was written earlier, during the days of Bush I, but has been revised for the 1997 version...
Bodacious
5th April 2003, 20:02
I'd like to remind the idiot who made this topic and the site owner's. The United State's Secret Service does monitor internet site's and dont think for a moment it doesn't take any threat like this serious.
Anti communist
5th April 2003, 20:18
Right on Bodacious. Moskitto, I think you better change your name, get as much plastic surgery as Michael Jackson, and move to another country. You're toast dude!!!!!......LOL
Look what you wrote: "the fact that Jeb Bush deserves to be assasinated, maybe more than ***George Bush***"
I think the FL State Police, the Secret Service, and the FBI are all watching you. One American hater down, several million to go!!!!!
(Edited by Anti communist at 9:19 pm on April 5, 2003)
Zombie
5th April 2003, 20:26
I think we should nuke him.
Or no better, kidnapp him, take him to one of Saddam's palaces, and let him get bombfucked by his own brother. After all, what's family for?
I'd like to remind the idiot who made this topic and the site owner's. The United State's Secret Service does monitor internet site's and dont think for a moment it doesn't take any threat like this serious.
The american SS can kiss my hairy ass, this site is one of the best on the net, it's immortal. Stop being jalous cos' it's a got a mind of its own.
The Z.
Anti communist
5th April 2003, 20:32
Zombie said: The american SS can kiss my hairy ass, this site is one of the best on the net, it's immortal. Stop being jalous cos' it's a got a mind of its own.
The site still has to operate within the law. Anyone who is advocating what you and Moskitto are, should be watched by the gov't. Even if you guys wanted to do away with an evil SOB like Saddam, you should be watched because your actions could have some effect on world events and US deplomacy.
Blibblob
5th April 2003, 21:57
YAY, some more people live in Bush's shitty state. I agree, he has destroyed the school system here. Now its time to start walking around with banners that have his picture and crosshairs over his head.;)
Oh, and this is the internet, it doesnt have to operate under law. It is free, you can connect to other people's computers for free, its just very difficult. The internet is owned by nobody. And governments don't police it. Hackers do.
(Edited by Blibblob at 5:59 pm on April 5, 2003)
Moskitto
5th April 2003, 21:57
Quote: from Anti communist on 9:18 pm on April 5, 2003
Right on Bodacious. Moskitto, I think you better change your name, get as much plastic surgery as Michael Jackson, and move to another country. You're toast dude!!!!!......LOL
Look what you wrote: "the fact that Jeb Bush deserves to be assasinated, maybe more than ***George Bush***"
I think the FL State Police, the Secret Service, and the FBI are all watching you. One American hater down, several million to go!!!!!
(Edited by Anti communist at 9:19 pm on April 5, 2003)
Oh dear, the FBI are going to have a pretty hard time catching me, you see, when the system finally gets around to extraditing me, i'll be gone, I have been sighted in the Congo, the Sinai Peninsula and in Cambodia, but in reality, I've just gone of Cardiff.
Moskitto
5th April 2003, 22:01
Hang on, the FBI is really going to go after someone who lives the other side of the planet who made statements on an internet BB saying that a governor should be assasinated shortly before he went to a gym? What a waste of time man.
Blibblob
5th April 2003, 22:02
Well, since this is over the internet and technically you could possibly not be tracked. If it starts to get dangerous, run your internet through a couple of proxy servers... hehe extremists.
Moskitto
5th April 2003, 22:21
well, i'm pretty safe unless someone tries to assasinate him, then i have to prove i have absolutely no connection with the assasin, then i have to prove that i didn't actually mean it in the most serious tone, then after all this they might just about let me back on the internet.
Although, I could argue that just because "he deserves to be assasinated more than G W Bush" doesn't mean he should be assasinated in my opinion, I could hyperthtically think that G W is a damn nice guy, but Jeb is less so, so Jeb would deserve to be assasinated more than G W, but that would be like saying that Blue is better than Brittney Spears, it wouldn't be much of a contest.
RedCeltic
6th April 2003, 00:28
I think that people are under the impression that we are still living in a free society here in the United States. That’s really a mistake. Freedom of speech has really gone by the wayside.
It’s used to be that one could say an official.. even the President, should be killed or harmed, and it was perfectly acceptable, as long as they weren’t actually plotting his assassination.
I remember a local punk band here in New York in the 1980’s used to sing about how Ronald Reagan should die of dismemberment or something. If you tried doing that these days, you could expect the place to be raided by the cops in no time.
A friend of mine was talking to a news reported last November about a congressman voting for the war and he made a passing remark that the guy should be thrown in the Hudson river. Several hours later he was paid a visit by the FBI.
Eastside Revolt
6th April 2003, 03:16
Quote: from RedCeltic on 1:28 am on April 6, 2003
I think that people are under the impression that we are still living in a free society here in the United States. That’s really a mistake. Freedom of speech has really gone by the wayside.
It’s used to be that one could say an official.. even the President, should be killed or harmed, and it was perfectly acceptable, as long as they weren’t actually plotting his assassination.
I remember a local punk band here in New York in the 1980’s used to sing about how Ronald Reagan should die of dismemberment or something. If you tried doing that these days, you could expect the place to be raided by the cops in no time.
A friend of mine was talking to a news reported last November about a congressman voting for the war and he made a passing remark that the guy should be thrown in the Hudson river. Several hours later he was paid a visit by the FBI.
It gives new meaning to "deep in the Babylon"
Anti communist
6th April 2003, 04:02
Moskito, sounds like you're scared and back pedaling.....LOL. Also, nice try to say that you live half way around the world. The simple fact that you hate Jeb Bush is probably a good indicator that you live in FL. That narrows it down quite a bit. Plus they could look at all other posts you put up here in the past to home in even closer. Clues about your age, any cities you might have mentioned, hobbies, etc.
Electronically, as far as the internet is concerned, I don't know how much can be figured out as far as your location. But you can bet that the gov't has the best computer people working for them and they probably go to companies like Microsoft for help in matters like this.
BliBlob, the internet may not have any laws but there are law enforcement agencies from all countries looking at sites like this for certain radicals, and they look at other sites like porno sites or chat sites for child molestors and pornographers. There are hundreds of law enf agencies in the US, federal, state, local that monitor the internet for that stuff and for much more such as drug activity, con artists, etc. A lot of the con artists have moved to the web for identity theft and other cons. So, someone is always watching and making a statement like Moskitto did, will at a minimum grab their attn.
Zombie
6th April 2003, 04:10
as far as the internet is concerned, I don't know how much can be figured out as far as your location.
Your IP (internet protocol) adress is all that is needed. You broadcast it wherever you go on the net, it acts pretty much like your phone number. It is essential when you want to hack a specific computer, or trace it...
And the tracing part can be pretty accurate...
(Edited by Zombie at 11:11 pm on April 5, 2003)
RedCeltic
6th April 2003, 04:43
Moskito, sounds like you're scared and back pedaling.....LOL. Also, nice try to say that you live half way around the world. The simple fact that you hate Jeb Bush is probably a good indicator that you live in FL. That narrows it down quite a bit. Plus they could look at all other posts you put up here in the past to home in even closer. Clues about your age, any cities you might have mentioned, hobbies, etc.
You're joking right? He's been posting on this board an awful long time, in fact has more posts on this board than anyone else... and EVERYONE knows he lives in the UK... just read some of the fucking posts here.
How bloody ethnocentric!!!
ERRRR... BTW:: You're flag's upside down.
Anti communist
6th April 2003, 05:19
Red, thanks for telling the US Secret Service where he lives. I haven't been around as long so I hadn't run into too many of his posts. And he definitely has plenty to worry about. Look at what Zombie said. By the way, if I'm not mistaken, it's the US Secret Service that is responsible for investigating computer crimes (at least they used to be) and also for investigating counterfeiting. So Moskitto has an agency on his ass that is very competent at tracing stuff on the web and they also protect the President. You're screwd dude!!!!
As far as my flag upside down and my signature being changed, it's only because the admins and owners of this site are a bunch of fucking assholes. They did that in the hopes that I'll leave because I am a huge threat to their communist, anti American bullshit propaganda. It doesn't matter what the avatar and sig are. My posts show exactly how I feel.
(Edited by Anti communist at 5:24 am on April 6, 2003)
Bodacious
6th April 2003, 05:53
what laws? did the US after bending over backwards for the UN that we made btw need there approval?
see 9/11 changed alot more than what u may think , I was just passing along a tip take it for what its worth. Foolish man that thinks he can out hack the best hackers in the world and a predator hawk with a hellfire missle cant reach out and wake him in his bedroom window.
Moskitto
6th April 2003, 09:08
I never advocated killing George, only Jeb.
hmmm, I get the feeling i'm going to talk myself into being arrested, shame.
It seems to me that we have more freedom over here, I can say that a mayor should be removed from power by violent means and no one would care, of course, if I started plotting the remove him by violent means then I would be in trouble, but if I just talked about it with no action, they're not going to care.
(Edited by Moskitto at 9:12 am on April 6, 2003)
Boris Moskovitz
6th April 2003, 09:13
Personnally, I don't think bad people deserve death, unless it's a slow and painful death >:) Such as being locked in a room with no light, no friends, no food, and dirty water, and most of all, no toilets, and no hands to masturbate! Now who's the big man!?
But about Jeb Bush getting killed... Well... I might reconsider... Crap... the Pre-cops have just arrested me for the future murder of Jeb Bush... thanks a lot...
Anti communist
6th April 2003, 10:14
I'll put your mind at ease Moskitto. Why the hell am I such a nice guy? I love to see you commies squirming. I've got good news and bad news.
Good news: I think wether they will watch you or not depends on how credible a threat they think you are. Since they get many threats against the President every yr (this is a fact for every President, even your beloved commie Clinton), I would imagine they don't have the resources to chk them all out. So they go through them and see which are the most serious ones. There has to be thousands and thousands of emails and posts like yours floating around the web every yr. While it was something VERY STUPID you did, I doubt it's anywhere near the worst threat they've had against the President. So you probably aren't on the FBI's top 10 most wanted list, not yet anyway. I heard these threats go on all the time. Some are letters, some are phone calls, etc.
Bad news: The good news above is only an educated guess on my part (specificly the part about them not having enough resources and therefore not cheking all threats). The rest is probably accurate, that they do get thousands or at least hundreds of these a yr. Also, since this is a very popular President especially since 9/11, the number of threats are probably less than usual and so maybe they do have enough resources to chk all threats.
Also, your comments About Jeb are very interesting to the FL State Police. Since a Governor must get many less threats than a President, and the FL State Police is a pretty big organization, maybe they do have enough resources to chk your threat out. Also, the US Secret Service guards the Presiden't family members. I don't know if that includes brothers but it definitely includes wives, children, etc. Also, since Jeb has the FL State Police guarding him, maybe the US Secret Service don't care about him.
Now give me 5 Hail Marys and go on your way and sin no more young man.
Blibblob
6th April 2003, 14:05
"I'll put your mind at ease Moskitto. Why the hell am I such a nice guy? I love to see you commies squirming. I've got good news and bad news." Now THATS funny.
"While it was something VERY STUPID you did" Don't you feel happy moskitto? A capitalist called you stupid.
Haven't you checked the CIA compilation of things most dangerous to national security? That was funny, republicans and rabid dogs are more dangerous than commies...;)
The FL State police are a bunch of idiots. Have little worries man, they are too buisy trying to get some of my friends.:) Hehe, anti-commie is an idiot.
Moskitto
6th April 2003, 14:40
i don't believe in stupid people, only stupid actions, anti communist called the action stupid. Although you could argue that someone who repeatedly performs stupid actions could be called stupid, but i would rather call them "foolish".
Blibblob
6th April 2003, 15:32
lol, fine. Sympathizers!
Anti communist
6th April 2003, 19:16
Correct Moskitto, I called the action stupid, not you.
Blibblob, I don't know wat the hell you're talking about dude.
(Edited by Anti communist at 7:17 pm on April 6, 2003)
Blibblob
7th April 2003, 00:46
Its ok, neither do I.
Boris Moskovitz
7th April 2003, 01:26
Ahem... I am sorry for being such a clueless dork... I only know Jeb is a relative of Dubya's... But...
What did he do exactly?
Blibblob
7th April 2003, 02:18
Internationally, nothing. Locally in Florida, a lot. He destroyed the school system, increased tax cuts. Shrunk the educational budget, and steals money from schools that arent doing great. The entire problem is confusing, getting into details gets complicated. Basically, he's a sucky governer, but he is a bit more intelligent than his brother.
Boris Moskovitz
7th April 2003, 03:31
That's no reason to kill him... He will just lose the next elections. I'm sure he won't be re-elected... Still... I hate that guy...
At least Jeb knows how to eat a pretzel properly...
Anti communist
7th April 2003, 05:13
Boris, Gov Jeb Bush of FL is the President's brother.
I believe he is on his 2nd term isn't he? That means that at least a little more than half the people in the state are happy with the job he's doing, and they reelected him.
Blibblob, we should change your name to Blab_blab. All in favor say I.
Boris Moskovitz
7th April 2003, 14:38
Oh... are you sure they like him? Or is it only that he is the least stupid right now? Jean-Chretien has been reelected twice, and hes been one the most incompetent PM I've ever know. =P
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