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Winter
29th September 2008, 18:30
Palin: Man and Dinosaur Existed at Same Time

When asked about her religious beliefs, Governor Palin of Alaska/Running Republican Party Vice-President, publicly stated that man and dinosaur co-existed on the planet 6,000 years ago. She made the comment during her reign as a small town mayor.

As critics are starting to pick apart Palin's past, questioning her political agenda and religious background, a spokesman for the governor states that she has never made those remarks about dinosaurs and evolution in public.

Although scientists have proven dinosaurs went extinct some 65 million years ago, Palin did push for "intelligent design" to be taught along with evolution in Alaska schools but has yet to force it into the curriculum, say Alaskan educators.


Source: www.latimes.com (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-palinreligion28-2008sep28,0,1504131,full.story)

Lenin's Law
29th September 2008, 18:38
Palin is a religious theocrat in the extreme; and it is to the immense shame of the Democrats that they have basically given her a pass on all of this as they are too busy competing with Republicans for the evangelical vote. Palin is fully comparable to her Islamic fundamantalist counterparts which all the liberals in the West are screaming about. I wonder what they would have to say about a religious fundamentalist coming within 1 heartbeat of the US Presidency should McCain be elected?

BashTheFash
29th September 2008, 19:03
:lol: She scares me

Kitskits
29th September 2008, 19:27
She is an idiot and the fact that she appeals to american people is sad.

Gleb
29th September 2008, 19:30
Idea of her being the vice president or even the president of the United States really scares the living shit out of me.

ÑóẊîöʼn
29th September 2008, 19:31
So, the US economy is going down the shitter and the religidiots have enough influence to get someone like Sara Palin as potential VP.

I see a bright future for America! :lol:

Unfortunately, Britain's ruling class seems to be straining to keep up, as our economy ain't looking too healthy, plus we have our own state sponsored schools that teach creationism (Emmanuel College being one...)

Lenin's Law
29th September 2008, 19:34
So, the US economy is going down the shitter and the religidiots have enough influence to get someone like Sara Palin as potential VP.

I see a bright future for America! :lol:


I do too...I am becoming more and more convinced that a huge upsurge of class consciousness in America, and probably Britain and other countries as well, will be the net result of all of this. As people here are becoming more disillusioned with bourgeois politics, the Republicans felt they had to rally their base of religious fundamentalists to have any chance at all.

BashTheFash
29th September 2008, 19:44
"I am becoming more and more convinced that a huge upsurge of class consciousness in America, and probably Britain and other countries as well, will be the net result of all of this"

I agree.

LOLseph Stalin
30th September 2008, 01:12
I see her as a religious extremist. She's not fit to lead a country.

Raúl Duke
30th September 2008, 01:15
Idea of her being the vice president or even the president of the United States really scares the living shit out of me.

Seconded

Comrade B
30th September 2008, 01:19
Got my German citizenship, passport, and all those goody papers in file. Anything is better than living under this nut.

McCain is a 73 year old man with a 300 page medical history for the last 5 years. The average US American male life expectancy is 75 if I am correct.

LOLseph Stalin
30th September 2008, 01:28
McCain is a 73 year old man with a 300 page medical history for the last 5 years. The average US American male life expectancy is 75 if I am correct.

Hmm...if he got elected and died in office I would be a happy person. Wait! That would mean Palin is president! Oh god, this is bad. At least Obama is ok. Hopefully he'll get elected.

spartan
30th September 2008, 02:28
It's hard to believe that in a so-called advanced first world country that people coming out with comments like this can stand a good chance at becoming the second most powerful, or potentially even thee most powerful if McCains dies in office, person in the American political system!

No wonder America doesn't have a good reputation amongst most people in the real world, how the fuck can you take a country seriously when it's run by people who say this sort of shit?

Q
30th September 2008, 02:49
For crying out loud...

Rosa Lichtenstein
30th September 2008, 02:51
Noxion:


Unfortunately, Britain's ruling class seems to be straining to keep up, as our economy ain't looking too healthy, plus we have our own state sponsored schools that teach creationism (Emmanuel College being one...)

Right, but the deeper they sink in the mire, the more the bosses need to sell us the opiate of religious consolation.

[Works roughly the same way with dialecticians, except they sell this drug to one another!:lol:]

JimmyJazz
30th September 2008, 03:43
"I am becoming more and more convinced that a huge upsurge of class consciousness in America, and probably Britain and other countries as well, will be the net result of all of this"

I agree.

We probably would have said that about Bush if he had been as frank about his intentions and his stupid shitty beliefs as Palin is being. Yet eight years of Bush's reign haven't radicalized things. Hell, after four years of him Americans were begging for more. (OK, 49% of Americans were, plus a few SC justices).

I'd love to share your optimism, but the problems with America are much deeper than any one election cycle. I think the similarities between the Dems and Reps in terms of foreign policy and corporate funding--two major issues on which they are basically identical--prove that fact.


McCain is a 73 year old man with a 300 page medical history for the last 5 years. The average US American male life expectancy is 75 if I am correct.

And he has "regressive recurring melanoma", don't forget.

JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY I hope Palin does not become the most powerful person in the world.

BTW, she's coming to my town and there's an anti-war/pro-choice/anti-idiocy protest planned which I will be attending. If anyone can think of a good slogan I'll put it on my sign. I already thought of "Puck Sarah Palin" and "America: Left Turn Only", but 2 of the people I'm going with stole those for their own signs and now I'm out of ideas...

RadioRaheem84
30th September 2008, 03:59
What do you expect? The majority of the nation is religious, right minded, and anti-intellectual. Ofcourse she appeals to a large sector of the population. Because of the huge gap in socio-economic classes, the populace is largely left to shitty public schooling. The people thus decide to learn about other things that go against the establishment and one of those things is Christianity. The other is anti-government, pro-capitalist propaganda.
The only good thing about them is that they know there is an elite and they know it wants more power. The sad thing is that the disinformation is so etched on their minds that anything remotely democratic or public is considered "part of the NWO".

The even sadder thing is that most of these groups (while albeit a bit racist) were strong progressives, protectionists and union friendly. I don't know what happened to them. Now they cannot stand anything progressive, some want protectionism while others want free trade, and most are distrustful of unions. It's weird. It's as if they think that in order for them to one day reach the top, they have let the top reach to the bottom for their rights, money and political power.

JimmyJazz
30th September 2008, 04:26
The even sadder thing is that most of these groups (while albeit a bit racist) were strong progressives, protectionists and union friendly. I don't know what happened to them. Now they cannot stand anything progressive, some want protectionism while others want free trade, and most are distrustful of unions. It's weird.

I'll assume you're talking about the Dems and pro-Dem groups.

It's really not that weird though, it makes perfect sense why the two major parties would keep creeping to the right: they are chasing corporate funding. They will go as far in this pursuit as the American electorate will let them. They are like the kid who stares right back at his mom while he sloooowly reaches for the off-limits cookie, waiting to see how far she'll actually let him go. Even they (the Dems and Reps) must be shocked at how far the voting populace has let them go in pursuit of ever-more funding from the richest members of our society. And I would add that it seems most people aren't aware of how far to the right both parties are, but I don't actually think that's true. Most people are perfectly aware. That's why we have such a low voter turnout rate and such general apathy about politics. We radical lefties, similar the majority of those politically apathetic people, long ago reached the conclusion that major-party electoral politics have virtually no relevance to our own lives; what sets us apart is that we kept digging at the issue, rather than simply moving on to more fulfilling pursuits. Whether this was wise, personally I'm still not sure.

I do think it's important for radical leftists to turn out on election day and vote third party, to join some sizable radical political organization, and to do other things that make their opinions known and visible. Otherwise, what is the difference between a socialist and someone who got disenchanted and simply tuned out politics when they were 15? Short of their participation in a revolution, there really is no difference that any observer could see, and the right-wing hack apologists for our corporate democracy will be able to keep cheerleading about the supposed stupidity and apathy of the American voter. Let's undercut the credibility of that official line, by making ourselves visible in a quantifiable, official way. (I.e., not merely by going to protests where we say 1000 people showed up and city officials claim 100).

RedDawn
30th September 2008, 04:44
Title of the thread is all wrong, it should be:

"Palin: Man or Dinosaur?"

Glenn Beck
30th September 2008, 04:44
I'm starting to wonder if perhaps I should be rooting for the old fart and the hockey mom. C'mon, how often do you get the chance to pick a complete imbecile for your enemy's chief of staff?


I do think it's important for radical leftists to turn out on election day and vote third party, to join some sizable radical political organization, and to do other things that make their opinions known and visible. Otherwise, what is the difference between a socialist and someone who got disenchanted and simply tuned out politics when they were 15? Short of their participation in a revolution, there really is no difference that any observer could see, and the right-wing hack apologists for our corporate democracy will be able to keep cheerleading about the supposed stupidity and apathy of the American voter. Let's undercut the credibility of that official line, by making ourselves visible in a quantifiable, official way. (I.e., not merely by going to protests where we say 1000 people showed up and city officials claim 100)

Word, Jimmy. The time for apathy and lesser-evilism is over (was it ever really a good time for that strategy anyhow?). Considering the unhealthy obsession with official politics most people have, maybe a serious 3rd party campaign with a coherent platform of paradigm-busting demands could serve as a rallying point for a real movement, as opposed to a debating society, a hobbyist circle, or the DNC's "loyal opposition". Perhaps we should be taking a long hard constructive look as to why Nader failed to do that.

#FF0000
30th September 2008, 04:48
Noxion:



Right, but the deeper they sink in the mire, the more the bosses need to sell us the opiate of religious consolation.

[Works roughly the same way with dialecticians, except they sell this drug to one another!:lol:]

I'm beginning to notice a running theme in your posts...

Comrade B
30th September 2008, 04:54
BTW, she's coming to my town and there's an anti-war/pro-choice/anti-idiocy protest planned which I will be attending. If anyone can think of a good slogan I'll put it on my sign. I already thought of "Puck Sarah Palin" and "America: Left Turn Only", but 2 of the people I'm going with stole those for their own signs and now I'm out of ideas...

how about...
"Sarah Palin,
kindly go fucking kill yourself"

with the two lines centered.

KrazyRabidSheep
30th September 2008, 05:02
I've seen movies. If people and dinosaurs co-existed, we wouldn't be here now.

Dinosaurs would have eaten us all up long ago.

Prisoner#69
30th September 2008, 05:19
Anyone else a little excited about the possibility of chaos if McCain were to pass the gas & Palin were to become the most powerful human being on earth? It could be entertaining!

Incendiarism
30th September 2008, 06:56
I take it you guys never saw the super mario brothers movie. Dinosaurs still exist actually, they're just in a separate dimension.

Prisoner#69
30th September 2008, 20:20
I take it you guys never saw the super mario brothers movie. Dinosaurs still exist actually, they're just in a separate dimension.

That's crazy:thumbup:

Glenn Beck
30th September 2008, 23:00
I take it you guys never saw the super mario brothers movie. Dinosaurs still exist actually, they're just in a separate dimension.

Trust the fungus

BraneMatter
30th September 2008, 23:26
I've seen movies. If people and dinosaurs co-existed, we wouldn't be here now.

Dinosaurs would have eaten us all up long ago.


You mean, Godzilla isn't REAL??? Come on, man, Godzilla stomped Tokyo, and you can't make stuff like that up!!!

No, he's still out there, lurking somewhere in the deep Pacific, and tearing up the nets of Japanese fishing boats...

Comrade B
1st October 2008, 02:04
Anyone else a little excited about the possibility of chaos if McCain were to pass the gas & Palin were to become the most powerful human being on earth? It could be entertaining!
Entertaining until I either 1. Get sent to Guantanamo Bay 2. Have to live in a theocracy 3. am executed 4. am blacklisted 5. have my friends sent to war to die in a new war 6. watch as my parents are forced to work nonstop because the market has died and they are receiving no social security 7. Have to live in and potentially raise a family in a (possibly) capitalist police state in economic depression.

Prisoner#69
1st October 2008, 02:18
Entertaining until I either 1. Get sent to Guantanamo Bay 2. Have to live in a theocracy 3. am executed 4. am blacklisted 5. have my friends sent to war to die in a new war 6. watch as my parents are forced to work nonstop because the market has died and they are receiving no social security 7. Have to live in and potentially raise a family in a (possibly) capitalist police state in economic depression.

Pretty bad results if he wins, right?

All the more reason for the Worker to join the revolution.

Without these negatives, nothing will happen.

Comrade B
1st October 2008, 02:26
We should not root for things to get worse for the majority so that we win, very exploitive that is.

Prisoner#69
1st October 2008, 02:49
Not really.

Mindtoaster
1st October 2008, 03:33
Not really.

How is that not exploitive? :confused: