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Killfacer
27th September 2008, 19:04
Can something not be done about these freaks? You all know who i am talking about.
They are making it impossible to have a proper discussion about anything by coming out with moronic stock statements about how shit communism is.
Sentinel
27th September 2008, 19:12
Well, unfortunately most 'opposers' who join up here are trollish to begin with -- so eager to tell us how we are wrong, how we are totalitarian murderers etc, which usually leads them to in a short time create a multitude of frankly quite inane posts. Some change with time and take effort in justifying their statements in debate, others just keep shouting without listening.
These people of the second type, the actual trolls, end up banned sooner or later -- but initially it's very hard to distinguish who belongs to which group. Therefore we have to let people post some and monitor their behavior, otherwise OI would soon be dead.
So, we have to be patient. Sad but true.. :(
Bud Struggle
27th September 2008, 19:45
Well, unfortunately most 'opposers' who join up here are trollish to begin with -- so eager to tell us how we are wrong, how we are totalitarian murderers etc, which usually leads them to in a short time create a multitude of frankly quite inane posts.
Some change with time and take effort in justifying their statements in debate, others just keep shouting without listening.
Been ther done that! Hopefully, I've become one of the former. :)
When one is exposed to REAL Communism--it's a challenge. I grew up wil MILLIONS of pre conceived notions about what Communism is. I would expect most Americans (can't speak for other countries,) have had the same experience.
It takes a while to get over all that propaganda. Look at these guys--the first thing out of their mouths (and mine a while back): "The Soviet Union was Communist and it sucked!"
It takes a little bit of time and learning for the truth to be manifest. Hey, I still don't agree with all this Commie stuff--but after a while I've grown to RESPECT it's philosophical take on life.
It takes a while for respect to grow to be real.
Give these guys some time. :)
danyboy27
27th September 2008, 19:48
i think troll are influencing hardcore commie to be rude with normal IO member.
having all this bullshit spammed all over the place make peoples hangry, and when someone post something a little bit contreversal he getting owned.
i think that IOer should have the right to take care of those fool. We should have at least 1 OI admin, that would have the power to ban OI only people.
i mean, make a fucking survey for the OIer on how much would like to have gomcain2008 ban and i am sure you got a 90% vote to ban this fool.
GPDP
27th September 2008, 19:48
I agree that some of these posters may eventually grow out of it, but seriously, do we expect someone called JohnMcCain2008 to concede any of his views at all?
ÑóẊîöʼn
27th September 2008, 19:58
It takes a little bit of time and learning for the truth to be manifest. Hey, I still don't agree with all this Commie stuff--but after a while I've grown to RESPECT it's philosophical take on life.
Why is that, if you don't mind me asking?
Bud Struggle
27th September 2008, 20:26
Why is that, if you don't mind me asking?
I think you Communists (after the first couple of "fuck yous":lol:) are open and honest and really do want to make the world into a better place. You are idealistic, to be sure, but without that kind of idealism that you offer we'd all fall further and further into the morass of more of the same. You look to the stars. I can appreciate that.
You are (for the most part, of course) honest and thinking people that look around you and see the pain and suffering in the world and want to do something about it.
As philosophers of the world you are really good and well meaning and headed to the right end. I also would like a better world--but we differ on the means.
All that said--I'm learing a lot from your way of thinking. I'm not of the philosophy that there is "one way." And I've been learning a great deal from you here. I really, truly deeply think that Communism has a lot to offer the world. (I think your recient marketing plans [SU, China] sucked but you have the trolls to tell you that! :lol:)
Anyway--I've learned a lot from you, I look to learn more and I appreciate you company. Hale fellows well met. And if I give you an occasional jab now and then--it's all in the spirit of--well, I'm at a loss for words. I guess me being a pain in the ass. ;):lol:
Enjoy.
Tom
Killfacer
27th September 2008, 20:27
I agree with you upto a point, when i first came on i wasnt a raving capitalist but i was a bit of a dick. But these people are fucking morons. Like GPDP said, no one called JohnMcain2008 is going to say anything of interest.
Also, that johnmcain2008 fellow doesnt even answer people. He simply makes a stupid thread about how crap communism is and just gives up.
Bud Struggle
27th September 2008, 21:14
I am for baning this troll.
And people give me bad karma for saying Communism's kind of gray. :lol:
Socialist18
28th September 2008, 01:42
The past week or so has seen a few new trolls join and fail in weak attempts to break down communism/socialism. I find it entertaining actually, to see capitalists, who are brain washed, spew out so many inaccuracies and lies about communism/socialism.
However its times like these that I realize OI is a needed forum, even if I'm still stuck in it.
Lynx
28th September 2008, 02:35
If you don't want trolls, don't feed them.
Killfacer
28th September 2008, 18:38
But a troll is for life, not just for christmas.
Dust Bunnies
28th September 2008, 20:54
I say keep the trolls, I am enjoying this.
spice756
29th September 2008, 05:39
Can something not be done about these freaks? You all know who i am talking about.
They are making it impossible to have a proper discussion about anything by coming out with moronic stock statements about how shit communism is.
Has long has they don't post and don't come back to debate than they are troll,But if they stay here over time they will become communits.
After reading enough posts here they will see the problems with capitalism.
apathy maybe
29th September 2008, 10:37
And people give me bad karma for saying Communism's kind of gray. :lol:
Yes yes I do. ;)
Didn't I give you a positive rep point at one point? But if you, especially since you have been around a bit, say something stupid like that, I will give you a negative bit of rep.
Oh yeah, and does anyone else remember the dinosaur game? That's a fun game...
Bud Struggle
29th September 2008, 12:18
Yes yes I do. ;)
Didn't I give you a positive rep point at one point? But if you, especially since you have been around a bit, say something stupid like that, I will give you a negative bit of rep.
Oh yeah, and does anyone else remember the dinosaur game? That's a fun game...
Fair enough. :thumbup1::)
Killfacer
30th September 2008, 00:49
Has long has they don't post and don't come back to debate than they are troll,But if they stay here over time they will become communits.
After reading enough posts here they will see the problems with capitalism.
I have been here for a while, but i am not a communist.
Dust Bunnies
30th September 2008, 01:45
Could a troll put his opinion here, help us out?
redSHARP
30th September 2008, 03:58
look trolls are people who go with the fad. most are just 4chan people who fuck with one forum and move to the next. most of the time they dont mean it. any one a /b/?
GPDP
30th September 2008, 04:15
Pfft, I left that place once it became a smoldering ruin of its former self, which was back in late 2005/early 2006. Now I cannot stand it or its culture.
/v/ is where all the cool kids go tbqh.
Black Dagger
30th September 2008, 04:18
I think troll are influencing hardcore commie to be rude with normal IO member.
having all this bullshit spammed all over the place make peoples hangry, and when someone post something a little bit contreversal he getting owned.
True.
i think that IOer should have the right to take care of those fool. We should have at least 1 OI admin, that would have the power to ban OI only people.
Hehe, that won't be necessary. We more than enough admins already ;)
BTW, i've banned that SocialDarwinist idiot, now please continue the ongoing debate about why 'the communists' are wrong and yall are right :)
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