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kylie
1st April 2003, 11:23
ywmy

von Mises
1st April 2003, 11:26
Ehm, since when has this to do with capitalism? Are you on a private school without state funding, or are there only private schools in your country?

kylie
1st April 2003, 11:31
ggio

von Mises
1st April 2003, 11:51
its to do with capitalism because the the government(capitalist) controls the education system, and the economy which it affects also happens to be capitalist

I am not even going to comment on this, cause is too much bs my brain can handle.


i dont see what this has to do with it, but no and no

The fact that you don't see this proves what I already thought, so please don't bother to argue your point before knowing that capitalism and state funded education system are two separated things.

kylie
1st April 2003, 12:03
rl

von Mises
1st April 2003, 12:23
England isn't capitalist either.

If education was done the capitalist way all schools would have been privatized and you would have the choice to go to the school you think would fit best. Or you can stay at home at let your parents teach you or go and work at your fathers farm. You're free to do as you please.

If schools are funded by the government then , as always, government indeed try to condition people to think and act a certain way, to conform to society. This has nothing to do with powerlessness or exploitation however.

Nevertheless, you would need the state schools otherwise how could you indoctrinate people to believe that marxism is right and tell them they are not important but society is?

kylie
1st April 2003, 12:47
;;i

US Shockrule2000
1st April 2003, 13:05
what's a troll?

kylie
1st April 2003, 13:13
you

von Mises
1st April 2003, 15:11
Excuse me, do I need to read up?

Any remarks on what education would be in a capitalistic system, you seem to have "skipped" this?

US Shockrule2000
1st April 2003, 20:59
wtf, how am i a troll?

fuck you.

kylie
2nd April 2003, 08:24
wj

hazard
2nd April 2003, 08:34
essentially schools don't do anything but prepare children for the idea that they MUST work for all of their lives

it skips over the reason why in hopes of brainwashing them into mindless, subserviant robots that are incapable of thinking for themselves

as for private schooling, the ridiculus ontario provincial government has just unconstitutionally allowed for the public funding of private schools. WTF IS UP WITH THAT? I can't wait until these fascist pigs are properly executed in the upcoming provincial election.

von Mises
2nd April 2003, 09:07
Really feoric, that would only mean that schools aren't part of a capitalist conspirancy. Here in Holland they are fully funded by the government.

Government funded things aren't exactly efficiently run because they have no incentive to do so. The government can increase the funding but then there is still no incentive. And extra money also means extra rules on how to spend it, thus mostly increasing the wages of the teachers. So if they want to buy new computers or a new library they have to turn to companies or individuals.

If a company in a market environment is run like that it propbably would go bunkrupt because its product is to expensive.

Taxes are not capitalist, they are only used for transferring wealth. All sincere capitalist oppose taxes.

And for trade, I am glad there is, because otherwise I would be forced by people like you to pay too much for the things I need, like food.