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Comrade Looter
25th September 2008, 02:57
From Prison-Planet


(http://www.prisonplanet.com/us-troops-in-homeland-crowd-control-patrols-from-october-1st.html)
Paul Joseph Watson (http://www.prisonplanet.com/us-troops-in-homeland-crowd-control-patrols-from-october-1st.html)

Wednesday, September 24, 2008
U.S. troops returning from duty in Iraq will be carrying out homeland patrols in America from October 1st in complete violation of Posse Comitatus for the purposes of helping with “civil unrest and crowd control” - which could include dealing with unruly Americans after a complete economic collapse.
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The deployment of National Guard troops to aid law enforcement or for disaster relief purposes is legal under the authority of the governor of a state, but using active duty U.S. Army in law enforcement operations inside America absent the conditions described in the Insurrection Act is completely illegal.

This shocking admission was calmly reported on September 8th by the Army Times website (http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/), which reports that from the beginning of next month the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team “Will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.”

The article notes that the deployment “marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.”

The purpose of the unit’s patrols includes helping “with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.”

The unit will be on homeland patrol for at least 20 months before returning to Iraq or Afghanistan in early 2010, according to the report.

Training for homeland operations has already begun at Fort Stewart and at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs.



Ominously, the report states that, “The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.”



The unit would also be deployed to deal with hostile crowds of Americans in the aftermath of a massive economic depression, potential food riots and race riots, if one defines the term “crowd control” to match its reasonably applicable scenarios.
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The open admission that U.S. troops will be involved in law enforcement operations as well as potentially using non-lethal weapons against American citizens is a complete violation of the Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act, which substantially limit the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement unless under precise and extreme circumstances.


Section 1385 of the Posse Comitatus Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act) states, “Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”



Under the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, signed by President Bush on October 17, 2006, the law was changed to state, “The President may employ the armed forces to restore public order in any State of the United States the President determines hinders the execution of laws or deprives people of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.”



However, these changes were repealed in their entirety by HR 4986: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act#Repeal_of_amendments), reverting back to the original state of the Insurrection Act of 1807 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act).

The original text of the Insurrection Act severely limits the power of the President to deploy troops within the United States.

For troops to be deployed, a condition has to exist that, “(1) So hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or (2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws. In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.”



Is the Bush administration and Northcom waiting for such a scenario to unfold, an event that completely overwhelms state authorities, before unleashing the might of the U.S. Army against the American people?

The deployment of National Guard troops to aid law enforcement or for disaster relief purposes is legal under the authority of the governor of a state, but using active duty U.S. Army in law enforcement operations inside America absent the conditions described in the Insurrection Act is completely illegal.



With the promise of an “October surprise” on behalf of Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda being bandied about by the media and the potential for civil unrest should a complete collapse of the U.S. economy unfold, the presence of U.S. troops inside America, returning fresh from kicking down doors, arresting “insurgents” and taking them to internment camps in Iraq, should put Americans on alert and provoke urgent questions about the legality of U.S. Army units engaging in law enforcement operations against American citizens.






Notes: All of you communists should be very pleased with the direction America is heading in, because Lenin would be proud.

Robert
25th September 2008, 03:17
Is the Bush administration and Northcom waiting for such a scenario to unfold, an event that completely overwhelms state authorities, before unleashing the might of the U.S. Army against the American people?

Oh, no doubt. Then he'll unleash the nukes on us. Remember to duck and cover when you see the flash.

danyboy27
25th September 2008, 03:18
alex jones???

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Comrade Looter
25th September 2008, 05:31
Yea, I know. Still, it was the first place I found the article, didn't wanna have togo find it somewhere else too, google is your friend though!

Sendo
25th September 2008, 06:22
after the Rnc, anything is possible. Were back down the road of Cointelpro....actually worse by many measures.

Hell, DN! said we have the largest income gap in recorded USA history and that of the industrialized world.

USA ALL THE WAY!!!! WWOOOOO!!!.......uh oh. Maybe not #1 anymore. China and India will overtake us in raw output soon, but hey! at least we won't have to bear the shame as being the biggest CO2 emitters anymore. (though being overtaken by China is really bad in it's own right as far as our ice caps are concerned)

Schrödinger's Cat
25th September 2008, 06:47
As much as I admire your considerations, Alex Jones is a hack who makes money off of people's fears.

Sendo
25th September 2008, 06:56
what? this is from Alex Jones? I thought it says Paul Joseph Watson.

spice756
25th September 2008, 07:32
alex jones???


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I agree with his views on state police and the US government is moving to fascism.

I agree may be and use the word may be the US allowed 911 or was responsible for 911.Lots of thinks do not add up if you read web sites not just his.

I believe the US killed JFK and allowed Pale Harbor to happen to go to war.I believe if there is a Illuminati group and planning evile things it part of capitalism .And removing capitalism will remove those evile rich thugs and any group may it be Illuminati or freemasons.

Fight capitalism to to ripe out those evile groups.

freakazoid
25th September 2008, 08:13
So what if it comes from Alex Jones? Does that mean that you think it is ok for the Army to start acting as a police force?

:confused:

ÑóẊîöʼn
25th September 2008, 08:17
I believe the US killed JFK and allowed Pale Harbor to happen to go to war.I believe if there is a Illuminati group and planning evile things it part of capitalism .And removing capitalism will remove those evile rich thugs and any group may it be Illuminati or freemasons.


Oh good grief! :rolleyes: The ruling class is nowhere as competent as the conspiracy theorists paint it. Their mismanagement of the economy is proof enough of that.

Dust Bunnies
25th September 2008, 21:32
Hm if this is true lets show them whats its like to be in the October Revolution. :P

So people in charge are breaking laws, no breaking news there, that's old news to me.

Comrade Looter
27th September 2008, 01:45
Can anybody say Red October?

#FF0000
27th September 2008, 01:57
Oh good grief! :rolleyes: The ruling class is nowhere as competent as the conspiracy theorists paint it. Their mismanagement of the economy is proof enough of that.

Not to mention how foolish the whole Pearl Harbor thing is.

Why would the U.S. just save a couple of their Aircraft Carriers from the attack, when popular opinion at the time was that aircraft carriers were secondary in importance to battleships?

JimmyJazz
27th September 2008, 03:39
I don't know the background on this but it seems like the same story (at least the first part where Amy Goodman is talking):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufxsUCKJ51M

Big Red
27th September 2008, 04:15
if you click on the link to the army news site you will see that most of whats in the alex jones article comes directly from their report. and if you ask me does an better job of scaring people then alex jones is capable of

Comrade Looter
29th September 2008, 06:09
Interesting video,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AgwzsLH32A

spice756
29th September 2008, 06:43
Not to mention how foolish the whole Pearl Harbor thing is.

Why would the U.S. just save a couple of their Aircraft Carriers from the attack, when popular opinion at the time was that aircraft carriers were secondary in importance to battleships?


It takes open mind to grasp all this conspiracy stuff.Say may be and look at source to back up the claim.Do not just read one conspiracy web site.Dig into it and read and investigate.

If you have open mind to communism and socialism why not conspiracy stuff.I think the world is bad place and is hell :cursing:that is why I support communisma/socialism .I hate capitalists ,monopoly ,big businesses ,class struggle and competition so on.Long list.Why not believe there are evile groups plotting stuff for their control or profit.

Lihualee
29th September 2008, 11:18
just my two centsbump

redSHARP
30th September 2008, 04:01
who is alex jones?

Sendo
30th September 2008, 04:09
A nutcase libertarian who loves conspiracy theories about UN global govt, 9/11 masterminds, global warming lies, world jewish banking conspiracies, cults pervading the whit ehouse, satanists, free masons, fraternities, and god knows what else. He makes some basement documentary every 6 months or so. High-strung, yelling freak.