A WARMONGER EXPLAINS WAR TO A PEACENIK

[Larissa]

A WARMONGER EXPLAINS WAR TO A PEACENIK

http://ladyday.foobar.fi/~pjh/Iraq.html

[Chiak47]

Madusa,

This has been posted here.
It's farce.Goodbye.
Thank you,
Kilroy was here-to take a leak

[RedComrade]

Thank you for the contribution Larissa I shared this with all my friends and posted it on a class message board were the war is being discussed. Of all the anti-war material I have seen this was particularily good I think it will silence many of the idiot warmongers in school and adresses all of there arguments. Do not mind Chick47 he is upset about his lost chromosome, that missing chromosome has prevented him from actually adressing any of the points made by the url you posted.

[Chiak47]

RedCondom,
It was addressed already.

Thank you,
Real American

[Xvall]

It's farce

That was like the best rebuttal ever!

[synthesis]

Larissa, none of the cappies could address any of it when I posted it either :biggrin:

[Larissa]

Thanks for your suggestions RedComrade and DyerMaker. Actually, I think I stopped minding cappies after I got exhausted by discussing politics with them. :wink:

[Chiak47]

PeaceNik: Why did you say we are invading Iraq?

chiak47-too help the oppressed people of Iraq.


PeaceNik: But I thought many of our allies, including Israel, were in violation of more security council resolutions than Iraq.
chiak47-One fight at a time please.Besides Isreal is a Democracy.


PeaceNik: Mushroom cloud? But I thought the weapons inspectors said Iraq had no nuclear weapons.
chiak47-They have been persuing WMD's.It's a fact
PeaceNik: But I thought Iraq did not have any long range missiles for attacking us or our allies with such weapons.

chiak47-really the scud attacks on Kuwait and Isreal were not on our friends.Those Scud-b's could be retrofitted to hold Chem weapons

PeaceNik: But coundn't virtually any country sell chemical or biological materials? We sold quite a bit to Iraq in the eighties ourselves, didn't we?
chiak47-We were fighting a war that was not to be told.We were after the red's whom everyone knows whants to take out our way of life


PeaceNik: We sold chemical and biological materials to a power-hungry lunatic murderer?
chiak47-We thought they were on our side at the time

PeaceNik: A pre-emptive first strike does sound bad. But didn't our ambassador to Iraq, April Gillespie, know about and green-light the invasion of Kuwait?
chiak47-She hardly advocated a complete takeover of Kuwait.See it was a border dispute.Kuwait was slant drilling into Iraqs oil.Iraq was pissed.They wen't too far and America told them to pull back


PeaceNik: Osama Bin Laden? Wasn't the point of invading Afghanistan to kill him?

chiak47-And too break his back.He attacked us.Now his chickenshit ass is on the run

PeaceNik: Is this the same audio tape where Osama Bin Laden labels Saddam a secular infidel?

chiak47-Both Osama and Saddam are bad Both need to be put in a shallow grave

WarMonger: You're missing the point by just focusing on the tape. Powell presented a strong case against Iraq.

PeaceNik: He did?

chiak47-He lined up all kinds of sources and he layed the cards out.If you or any other leftist has a class-5 security clearance and can provide any other proof aginst the evidence than this point is done

WarMonger: Yes, he showed satellite pictures of an Al Quaeda poison factory in Iraq.

PeaceNik: But didn't that turn out to be a harmless shack in the part of Iraq controlled by the Kurdish opposition?

chiak47-Who says it was a shack?Al-Queda?I'd rather trust CNN than them

WarMonger: And a British intelligence report...

PeaceNik: Didn't that turn out to be copied from an out-of-date graduate student paper?

chiak47-see my point above

WarMonger: And reports of mobile weapons labs...

PeaceNik: Weren't those just artistic renderings?

chiak47-see my point above

WarMonger: And reports of Iraquis scuttling and hiding evidence from inspectors...

PeaceNik: Wasn't that evidence contradicted by the chief weapons inspector, Hans Blix?

chiak47-Hans Blix-That socialist peacenik sweede can't find his ass

WarMonger: Yes, but there is plently of other hard evidence that cannot be revealed because it would compromise our security.

PeaceNik: So there is no publicly available evidence of weapons of mass dectruction in Iraq?

chiak47-The kurds gassed is evidence enough for me

WarMonger: The inspectors are not detectives, it's not their JOB to find evidence. You're missing the point.

PeaceNik: So what is the point?

chiak47-He needs to be dealt with

WarMonger: The main point is that we are invading Iraq because resolution 1441 threatened "severe consequences." If we do not act, the security council will become an irrelevant debating society.

PeaceNik: So the main point is to uphold the rulings of the security council?

chiak47-And too bring the lynchmen to thier knees

WarMonger: Absolutely. ...unless it rules against us.

PeaceNik: And what if it does rule against us?
chiak47-unleash the dogs of WAR

WarMonger: In that case, we must lead a coalition of the willing to invade Iraq.

PeaceNik: Coalition of the willing? Who's that?

chiak47-USA and England,Poland also has troops there.Turkey is letting us use thier airspace

WarMonger: Britain, Turkey, Bulgaria, Spain, and Italy, for starters.

PeaceNik: I thought Turkey refused to help us unless we gave them tens of billions of dollars.

chiak47-Not no more

WarMonger: Nevertheless, they may now be willing.

PeaceNik: I thought public opinion in all those countries was against war.

chiak47-What 1000 dirty Reds in each city protesting is not popular opinion

WarMonger: Current public opinion is irrelevant. The majority expresses its will by electing leaders to make decisions.

PeaceNik: So it's the decisions of leaders elected by the majority that is important?

chiak47-Hell Yea

WarMonger: Yes.

PeaceNik: But George Bush wasn't elected by voters. He was selected by the U.S. Supreme C...-

chiak47-BULLSHIT-I voted for him.what do you want another recount?

WarMonger: I mean, we must support the decisions of our leaders, however they were elected, because they are acting in our best interest. This is about being a patriot. That's the bottom line.

PeaceNik: So if we do not support the decisions of the president, we are not patriotic?

chiak47-Support him *****...*AK to the temple*

WarMonger: I never said that.

PeaceNik: So what are you saying? Why are we invading Iraq?

chiak47-To kill a bad man and liberate the people

WarMonger: As I said, because there is a chance that they have weapons of mass destruction that threaten us and our allies.

PeaceNik: But the inspectors have not been able to find any such weapons.

chiak47-see above

WarMonger: Iraq is obviously hiding them.

PeaceNik: You know this? How?

chiak47-see above

WarMonger: Because we know they had the weapons ten years ago, and they are still unaccounted for.

PeaceNik: The weapons we sold them, you mean?

chiak47-USSR supplied alot of Armor and weapons

WarMonger: Precisely.

PeaceNik: But I thought those biological and chemical weapons would degrade to an unusable state over ten years.

chiak47-If these weapons are in a controlled setting they could still be good.He also has mobile labs that pump that shit out

WarMonger: But there is a chance that some have not degraded.

PeaceNik: So as long as there is even a small chance that such weapons exist, we must invade?

chiak4-Hell yea7

WarMonger: Exactly.

PeaceNik: But North Korea actually has large amounts of usable chemical, biological, AND nuclear weapons, AND long range missiles that can reach the west coast AND it has expelled nuclear weapons inspectors, AND threatened to turn America into a sea of fire.

chiak47-one at a time please-They are next

WarMonger: That's a diplomatic issue.

PeaceNik: So why are we invading Iraq instead of using diplomacy?

chiak47-We tried to use democracy.We gave him 48 hrs to clear town

WarMonger: Aren't you listening? We are invading Iraq because we cannot allow the inspections to drag on indefinitely. Iraq has been delaying, deceiving, and denying for over ten years, and inspections cost us tens of millions.

PeaceNik: But I thought war would cost us tens of billions.

chiak47-79 billion to be exact.Small price for the lives of America and her allies

WarMonger: Yes, but this is not about money. This is about security.

PeaceNik: But wouldn't a pre-emptive war against Iraq ignite radical Muslim sentiments against us, and decrease our security?

chiak47-It isnt so far,But bring them all on


WarMonger: Possibly, but we must not allow the terrorists to change the way we live. Once we do that, the terrorists have already won.

PeaceNik: So what is the purpose of the Department of Homeland Security, color-coded terror alerts, and the Patriot Act? Don't these change the way we live?

chiak47-The color shaded code is for potential targets such as nuke facilities.They base thier overtime upon that.When it is high they ask thier workers to work longer hrs for security

WarMonger: I thought you had questions about Iraq.

PeaceNik: I do. Why are we invading Iraq?

chiak47-To kill Saddam

WarMonger: For the last time, we are invading Iraq because the world has called on Saddam Hussein to disarm, and he has failed to do so. He must now face the consequences.

PeaceNik: So, likewise, if the world called on us to do something, such as find a peaceful solution, we would have an obligation to listen?

chiak47-Fuck the world and thier stance

WarMonger: By "world", I meant the United Nations.

PeaceNik: So, we have an obligation to listen to the United Nations?

chiak47-Fuck the UN also

WarMonger: By "United Nations" I meant the Security Council.

PeaceNik: So, we have an an obligation to listen to the Security Council?

chiak47-Fuck them too
WarMonger: I meant the majority of the Security Council.

PeaceNik: So, we have an obligation to listen to the majority of the Security Council?

chiak47-Who cares-fuck em

WarMonger: Well... there could be an unreasonable veto.

PeaceNik: In which case?

chiak47-Fuck em

WarMonger: In which case, we have an obligation to ignore the veto.

PeaceNik: And if the majority of the Security Council does not support us at all?

chiak47-fuck em
WarMonger: Then we have an obligation to ignore the Security Council.

PeaceNik: That makes no sense.
chiak47-fuck you-I also agree with What Warmonger says also
WarMonger: If you love Iraq so much, you should move there. Or maybe France, with the all the other cheese-eating surrender monkeys. It's time to boycott their wine and cheese, no doubt about that.

PeaceNik: I give up!
chiak47-Your From France right?
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[canikickit]

chiak47-too help the oppressed people of Iraq.

canyoujustdie: Like the 15 killed today?

chiak47-One fight at a time please.Besides Isreal is a Democracy.

canyoujustdie: Israel is an aparteid state. They violate human rights almost daily. Palestinians don't even have access to running water. (http://www.lawsociety.org/Reports/reports/2000/econch6-8.html)

chiak47-We were fighting a war that was not to be told.We were after the red's whom everyone knows whants to take out our way of life

canyoujustdie: No. The cold war was a bunch of playground showboating.

chiak47-And too break his back.He attacked us.Now his chickenshit ass is on the run

canyoujustdie: Yes but the point is that the Afghanistan war failed in its attempt of bringing that scumfuck to justice.

chiak47-Both Osama and Saddam are bad Both need to be put in a shallow grave

canyoujustdie: Yes, but there isn't a connection between Saddam's regime and Al-Queda. So stop bullshiting about it.

chiak47-Hans Blix-That socialist peacenik sweede can't find his ass

canyoujustdie: He must have a hard time wiping it. He can't find any toothpicks either. Here's what he said: ""The destruction undertaken constitutes a substantial measure of disarmament -- indeed the first since the middle of the 1990s. We are not watching the breaking of toothpicks. Lethal weapons are being destroyed....there was a significant Iraqi effort under way to clarify a major source of uncertainty as to the quantities of those arms which were unilaterally destroyed in 1991. As part of that effort, a disposal site was being now re-excavated, unearthing bombs and fragments, which could allow the determination of the number of bombs destroyed at that site (http://www.cpcml.ca/tmld/D33048.htm)"

chiak47-The kurds gassed is evidence enough for me

canyoujustdie: Those weapons are past their sell-by date.

chiak47-He needs to be dealt with

canyoujustdie: Not by your army or governement. Your foolishness will result in more terrorism, and further (justified) resentment against your imperialist regime.

chiak47-unleash the dogs of WAR

canyoujustdie: So the UN is merely a tool to your imperialist regime? Nice of you to admit it so freely.

chiak47-USA and England,Poland also has troops there.Turkey is letting us use thier airspace

canyoujustdie: Don't forget about Ireland. The sell out fucks. Piece of shit morons with no respect for the nuetrality of their country of the stance of the majority of their people.

chiak47-What 1000 dirty Reds in each city protesting is not popular opinion

canyoujustdie: 1000 dirty reds and 999,000 cleans ones. And some people who are merely contientous and against war for reason based more on the poor inhumanity of war. Yes, the majority. Fopcus on the ones that don't have shampoo if you want, just because you have an obbsessive compulsive disorder.

chiak47-BULLSHIT-I voted for him.what do you want another recount?

canyoujustdie: Yes please.

chiak47-Support him *****...*AK to the temple*

canyoujustdie:I don't worship at any temple. I am a heaten. I also have dawa and am immune to your bullets.

chiak47-To kill a bad man and liberate the people

canyoujustdie: Like those 15 you killed today?

chiak47-see above

canyoujustdie: I can see it. Have a look at this (http://www.iraqbodycount.net/bodycount.htm) as well.

chiak47-see above

canyoujustdie: I said I see it! How many times do you want me to tell you!?

chiak47-USSR supplied alot of Armor and weapons

canyoujustdie:Yeah, but you also want to get rid of the weapons you supplied, right?

chiak47-If these weapons are in a controlled setting they could still be good.He also has mobile labs that pump that shit out

canyoujustdie: CNN have mobile labs that pump shit out. Bush pumps shit out of his mouth all day aswell.

PeaceNik: So as long as there is even a small chance that such weapons exist, we must invade?

chiak4-Hell yea7

canyoujustdie: That's terrible.

PeaceNik: But wouldn't a pre-emptive war against Iraq ignite radical Muslim sentiments against us, and decrease our security?

chiak47-It isnt so far,But bring them all on

canyoujustdie: Are you insane? We don't want to bring them on. we want you to think about the consequences not be gung ho about the situation. Are you saying bring on another attack on the World Trade Centre?

chiak47-Fuck the world and thier stance

canyoujustdie: Yeah. That's what Bush is doing alright.

chiak47-Fuck the UN also

canyoujustdie: Bush is sodomising the planet.

chiak47-Fuck them too

canyoujustdie: I'll leave that to Bush. Maybe Cheney wants some also.

chiak47-Who cares-fuck em

canyoujustdie: Rumsfeld want some action also.

chiak47-Fuck em

canyoujustdie: Nah, you can. You like that shit.

chiak47-fuck you-I also agree with What Warmonger says also

canyoujustdie: Then you should fuck him.

chiak47-can you just die?

canyoujustdie: Not right now. Maybe later.

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(Edited by canikickit at 2:05 am on Mar. 27, 2003)

[synthesis]

*WARNING: my post contains graphic images - don't look if you don't want to see them, thanks*






Since the quote system can only handle two uses of the tags before fucking up faster than George Bush in a pretzel factory, and Chiak made so many stupid statements that need to be refuted, I'll have to deviate from my usual system. Drake Dracoli, prepare to have your system appropriated. ;)


Those Scud-b's could be retrofitted to hold Chem weapons

Provide a source.

We were after the red's whom everyone knows whants to take out our way of life

"Reds" have the right to live their life the way they want to, just like you do. Why do you feel the need to force your beliefs on others?

Who says it was a shack?Al-Queda?I'd rather trust CNN than them

I'll provide sources for the three things you questioned.

harmless shack - http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/2-8-2003-35168.asp

graduate paper - http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wo...worldnews-print (http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/ny-wobrit043121322feb08,0,3874735.story?coll=ny-worldnews-print)

artistic renderings - http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/...ynews-headlines (http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/ny-woiraq0205,0,3153854.story?coll=ny-nynews-headlines)


Besides Isreal is a Democracy.

Not for the Palestinians. Especially not for this baby.

http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/palestine/IsraelisAreNazis/image3.jpg

http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/palestine/IsraelisAreNazis/image4.jpg

Then again, I'm sure he was guilty of first-degree resistance of a fascist, racist regime dedicated to killing his brethren - is there anyone who isn't brainwashed by American mainstream media who isn't?



Hans Blix-That socialist peacenik sweede can't find his ass

Great rebuttal.

What 1000 dirty Reds in each city protesting is not popular opinion

LOL, you're stupider than I guessed.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0117/p07s01-woeu.html

BULLSHIT-I voted for him.what do you want another recount?

The business about the elderly unable to properly vote for Gore was just a cover-up for the mass discarding of minority ballots.

http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn...context/archive (http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/340/context/archive)

We tried to use democracy.We gave him 48 hrs to clear town

Yeah, nice diplomacy there.

Fuck the world and thier stance

Right on!

79 billion to be exact.Small price for the lives of America and her allies

Where'd you get that number? Last I heard, this could cost us up to two trillion dollars, with the very minimum being $100 billion.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/stor...2223783,00.html (http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-2223783,00.html)

[canikickit]

USA USA USA USA......yeah right.

[Zombie]

chiak47 tries to be witty once again only to find himself in deep shit...once again.
your reply to the article was fuckin' childish, kid...
Israel a democracy... tssk tssk how can one be so blind..