Marines think they are bad asses

[El Che]

Sorry for this pointless thread but recently on the news I`ve seen a couple of interviews made to marines, or whatever, and lol...

I think what they fail to realise is the money they have behind them. That is the reason why they win wars. They should try fighting people on equal footing, see how badass they are then.

[LOIC]

"I think what they fail to realise is the money they have behind them. That is the reason why they win wars. They should try fighting people on equal footing, see how badass they are then"

I agree. American soldiers have a better equipment than any other army in the world but they are not more courageous than other soldiers. Most of them are just a bunch of patriotic rednecks(just like their president).
In fact they are even less courageous that iraqi soldiers because iraqi soldiers know that they have already lost the war, but they fight anyway.


(Edited by LOIC at 6:07 pm on Mar. 26, 2003)


(Edited by LOIC at 6:08 pm on Mar. 26, 2003)

[lostsoul]

Americians soliders biggest weakness is that their scared to die. When they meet other soliders who are willing to die then they start a "no contact" war(thats what bush was talking about a while ago, basically just bomb and don't let the fighters go close unless they are sure they can win).

maybe its smarter, but i personally give a single gurillia solider a million times more respect then i give a coward solider that takes over bombed cities.

[Tkinter1]

Hmm. They should try and bring the war to US soil. Then we'll see who's scared. :)

[canikickit]

They should try and bring the war to US soil.

ha. ha. ha. The whole point is that they can't bring the war to you.

[Tkinter1]

If there's a will, there's a way. :)

[CruelVerdad]

They were scared in the time of the cold war, because they felt that the Soviet Union was bigger than them...
Now, they fell the world lives for them, that we love them...
They think they are like Simon Bolivar, like Ernesto CHE Guevara...
They will soon realize, and will feel so sorry for all the mistakes they have done!

[Xvall]

Of course they could; but they would be gunned down by the National Guard in seconds.

[lostsoul]

Quote: from Tkinter1 on 9:32 pm on Mar. 26, 2003
If there's a will, there's a way. :)


i live by that quote

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from Tkinter1 on 9:32 pm on Mar. 26, 2003
If there's a will, there's a way. :)


You're just a sick twisted basterd aren't you. You want to see war spread everywhere and tear even more lives apart. You want to see bombs going off during rush hour in the subways of New York City, and the congested highways of LA... and armed troops and tanks rolling through suburban neighborhoods... and blood running through the streets..

Fuck that...

[Chiak47]

Red,

They want the whole world to be 3rd world shitpools.
So everybody can be poor equally..
Utopia....
Kind of like Demolition man-Everybody sits in robes all day.The govt takes care of you....
You know socialism...

Thank you,
Evil instigator

[Tkinter1]

"You're just a sick twisted basterd aren't you. You want to see war spread everywhere and tear even more lives apart. You want to see bombs going off during rush hour in the subways of New York City, and the congested highways of LA... and armed troops and tanks rolling through suburban neighborhoods... and blood running through the streets.."

Wow I hope you're joking.

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from Tkinter1 on 4:35 pm on Mar. 26, 2003
"You're just a sick twisted basterd aren't you. You want to see war spread everywhere and tear even more lives apart. You want to see bombs going off during rush hour in the subways of New York City, and the congested highways of LA... and armed troops and tanks rolling through suburban neighborhoods... and blood running through the streets.."

Wow I hope you're joking.

naturally. I was pointing out how idiotic saying "I hope they bring the war over here" sounds.

[kelvin90701]

In some of the older ships I hear from old sailors, the head was just a trough of running water. Simple enough, espcially in rough weather. Well, sometimes the water runs from one trough and empties into another down the line and eventually overboard.

One day a Marine is pissing at the head and drops loose change into the head. He looks down for a moment, takes a $20 bill out and throws it into the head. Then he bends down and collects all his money. I sailor sees this and ask, "Why did you throw $20 in the head?" The Marine says, "Do you think I'm going the reach down there for $1.25"

[canikickit]

hahahaha. Nice one.

I didn't understand the situation though, at all.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from CruelVerdad on 9:36 pm on Mar. 26, 2003
They were scared in the time of the cold war, because they felt that the Soviet Union was bigger than them...


I don't think "scared" is exactly accurate here.

We by no means wanted a hot war with the Soviets, because it would have meant the end of the world, but the USSR felt the same way. We faced the USSR down for 50 years. That was not fear, that was quite vigilant. We also fought the soviets in by-proxy wars and covertly for 50 years. During the cuban missle crisis, we went toe-to-toe with the USSR, and if anything, the reds blinked, not th USA.

And as far as size goes, there was more land in Russia, and they had more land forces and a larger standing army, but the USA had many more nukes, a larger and better navy, and IMO a better air force.

[Chiak47]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38999000/jpg/_38999019_well_200_ap.jpg

[synthesis]

Quote: from canikickit on 2:29 am on Mar. 27, 2003
hahahaha. Nice one.

I didn't understand the situation though, at all.


It's better if it takes place in an outhouse ;)

[Eastside Revolt]

"Criminal is the government that throws the national property up for grabs and its citizens into the teeth of beasts of prey in the absence of law." --Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Sounds like he's talking about you stupid yanks.

[Chiak47]

http://www.hindustantimes.com/wfsf/2003/Mar/06/12_26/images/hiResWeb205629.jpg

[Tkinter1]

"naturally. I was pointing out how idiotic saying "I hope they bring the war over here" sounds."


Hmm. Considering the fact that I didn't say that,(which makes me wonder why you put quotes around it) you didn't point out shit. :)

And even if you do put quotes around what I actually said, it still wouldn't point anything out, or make any sense for that matter.



(Edited by Tkinter1 at 3:37 am on Mar. 27, 2003)

[Chiak47]

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn lived in the ussr.He was sent to a gulag for along time.He witnessed everything go down hill.

Far from America son.

I have relatives who still live on family land from 1919.
Can commies say that?

[Spiteful]

I don't see ANY other country with the amount of freedoms that the Americans have. The American military is probably the most solid military in the world right now and not all of the GDP is being put in the defense system, because we have so many domestic programs such as social security, welfare, medicare, medicaid, etc.. I see North Korea with a strong army, but ALL of their GDP is put into the military while their people struggle with daily life.

[Chiak47]

Spitefull is a fucking genious.

Hello welcome the new American Forum.

[guayaquilena]

how dare you Americians say"soliders biggest weakness is that their scared to die. When they meet other soliders who are willing to die then they start a "no contact" war(thats what bush was talking about a while ago, basically just bomb and don't let the fighters go close unless they are sure they can win)." our boys sign up for this job. in other countries, they are forced to serve. sure, it is unfortunate that there have been too deaths already, but do you want there to be more. YOU MUST BE SEEING SOMETHING I AM NOT!!!
further more...in response to "maybe its smarter, but i personally give a single gurillia solider a million times more respect then i give a coward solider that takes over bombed cities. " Those couragious soldiers are going to die eihter in war or for refusing to fight for their country. why not get paid by Hussein. American and Coalition "coward soldiers" take into consideration the civilians that the real Coward, Hussein, does not care about. he was given a fair warning. And speaking of which, was it not cowardly to take over such a small country (kuwait) or maybe i missed something there too!

[canikickit]

maybe i missed something there too!

YOU MUST BE SEEING SOMETHING I AM NOT!!!


If your main media sources are CNN or Fox News, or in fact any major US news network (which wouldn't surprise me), then I'd say you are quite accurate in what I have quoted.


was it not cowardly to take over such a small country

Just because you are against an imperialistic war, does not mean you support this crazed dictator. In fact, that premise is so ridiculously flawed, I must question the intelligence of all who put it forward. Don't worry, you're not written off yet.

[Anarcho]

In the time I've posted here, and lurked here, this has got to be one of the stupidest threads I've seen.

There is no nation on Earth that wouldn't give their left eye to be able to project power like the US does. Iraq certainly would.

Questioning the bravery of the forces involved is just asinine. Iraqis are brave, in that they fight on, despite almost certain defeat. US soldiers are brave, in that they are fighting in a war where there is no clearly delineated line between combatant and non-combatant. The 9yo kid who hangs around camp could toss a grenade at your tomorrow.

Physically, most modern militaries are about the same. Most of them use similar training methods. US forces are better fed than the Iraqis. Iraqi forces are much more accustomed to the conditions of the Iraqi desert.

It's real easy to sit and call soldiers cowards when you're hiding behind a keyboard and fooling yourself into thinking you're a revolutionary.

[lostsoul]

Quote: from guayaquilena on 4:58 am on Mar. 29, 2003
how dare you Americians say"soliders biggest weakness is that their scared to die. When they meet other soliders who are willing to die then they start a "no contact" war(thats what bush was talking about a while ago, basically just bomb and don't let the fighters go close unless they are sure they can win)." our boys sign up for this job. in other countries, they are forced to serve. sure, it is unfortunate that there have been too deaths already, but do you want there to be more. YOU MUST BE SEEING SOMETHING I AM NOT!!!
further more...in response to "maybe its smarter, but i personally give a single gurillia solider a million times more respect then i give a coward solider that takes over bombed cities. " Those couragious soldiers are going to die eihter in war or for refusing to fight for their country. why not get paid by Hussein. American and Coalition "coward soldiers" take into consideration the civilians that the real Coward, Hussein, does not care about. he was given a fair warning. And speaking of which, was it not cowardly to take over such a small country (kuwait) or maybe i missed something there too!


Thanks for critizing my post, Your right deaths are bad, but i am looking at the furture also. I recall reading about when the British took over Africa, India, etc..they said they were "liberating" or "uniting" the people. I notice many simlairities, and i also notice many many many people had to die when britian first came in, during their stay(because of conditions and when people rose up), and after britian left(usually civil war). Thats why i feel so strongly about this war, its not the immediate deaths but the future ones. My only proof of this is history.

Your second point regarding the soliders being forced to fight. I don't know if this is true or not, but i'll assume it is true that iraqi's are forced to fight. If this was true, they could surrender the second they saw americians, right? I mean if everyone is forced to fight then they would pretty much agree together lets not fight(or even if the majority was forced they could take out the small group that wants to fight). But i read about iraqi's still fighting and even when they're squads get broken apart they still fight.

I can't say much about saddam, i haven't studied him at all, other then a breif biography in which i found out he was a lawyer, and is also a revonary of his country. But lets say he did care for his people, and wanted to give them everything, what can he give them except food? (remember the good old UN sactions??). I read, india sold Iraqi Bus's(like for public transportation or school children), and the UN went crazy and said india was voliating the sanctions, so how can iraq care for its people? only thing it can do is feed them, and i don't recal seeing any famine in iraq, so they must be doing their job. Only now iraqi's are not getting food, since america started their war.


To Anarcho, If america was walking in, it would be different, they are bombing area's first, then sending in soliders to pick up the peices.



It's real easy to sit and call soldiers cowards when you're hiding behind a keyboard and fooling yourself into thinking you're a revolutionary.


i agree, but i was wondering is it easier to do that or is it easier to sit back knowing your enemies are being bombed with long range missles and still call yourself a soliders. Look at how america fights wars, Siberia, they just bombed(according to my research they never set foot in that country), look at Afganistan, and iraq..America only attacks small countries that can't defend themselfs..and in afganistan they didn't even really fight first they got the northen allience to go fight for them.

so i guess your right it is easy to call them cowards, all i got to do is read about their wars, and the words just come right out.

[M1 Abrams]

well idiot according to my RESEARCH we never bombed siberia at all. you have now proven you are an idiot. BE GONE!

[lostsoul]

Quote: from M1 Abrams on 2:52 pm on Mar. 29, 2003
well idiot according to my RESEARCH we never bombed siberia at all. you have now proven you are an idiot. BE GONE!

HHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

http://www.johmann.net/commentary/kosovo.html

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/Da...90316_poll.html (http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/DailyNews/kosovo990316_poll.html)

THERE'S ALOT ABOUT IT ON THE NET. BUT MAYBE YOU SHOULD IMPROVE YOUR RESEARCHING SKILLS..OR EVEN YOUR MEMORY SINCE IT ONLY HAPPENED A FEW YEARS BACK.

[Anarcho]

lostsoul- I mean to say "Serbia", not Siberia. Siberia is a part of Russia. Serbia is totally different.


When NATO forces were preparing to engage in Yugoslavia, there was concern that aircraft would be engaging with what is/was a completely modern anti-aircraft system. Initial projections showed a strong possibility that NATO jets were going to get swatted out of the air like flies in the first few sorties. It didn't happen, but even though the pilots "knew" that there was a good chance they were going to get killed, they went anyways.

Now, Coalition forces are going up against one of the most ruthless military leaders in the modern world. Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons in the 80's that the rest of the world stopped using after WWI because they were so devestating. They are marching in even though the enemy hasn't been softened up by a large scale air campaign, standard procedure in any modern combat. That takes bravery.


The difference between the British Imperialism of the colonial era and what is happening now is that the British might have said they were liberating India, or Africa, or Hong Kong, but they installed British governors. Coalition forces, when finished, will work with the UN to install an Iraqi interim government that will in turn hold free and open elections to allow the Iraqi's self determination for the first time in their history.