Anarchist Personals???

[A_Ciarra]

I'm a single in need of a hook up, but I only date anarchist's. What is a girl to do - I'm not meeting many people on any other daily basis! And it's sure frustrating trying to locate like minded radicals on-line with the specific intent of dating. Listings just are not out there other than on a couple punk sites which of course is not political anarchism but rather nihilism.

:wub: Has anyone ever seen or thought of running a dating site for our community???


Of course if say Revleft ran a dating site at very minimal prices it could be co-owned and used to help support whatever ventures might be at hand...

[Raúl Duke]

:confused:

You could just go to chit-chat and make a thread like "Anarchist girl looking for Anarchist guy."

Unfortunately, I live far away from you. ;)


Also I never seen a site for "anarchist dating"

[Black Sheep]

:blink::blink::blink::blink::blink:
uhm.....

what?

[Red Anarchist of Love]

it might be hard to find another anarchist in seattle how bout find some one who hasn't yet made up his mind yet and bring him over to our cause. it might work.

[A_Ciarra]

Sigh!

"Where oh where"

:tongue_smilie:

[A_Ciarra]

I would not be opposed to a very open individual, but that is also a lonely proposal too since I want to identify and connect in a "present tense" situation rather than coach.

I've been there often and it takes a lot of energy - energy needed for other things really.

[Jazzratt]

I've been there often and it takes a lot of energy - energy needed for other things really.

oo er.

[A_Ciarra]

Jazz, how about you go hug a rock, that appears to be all the emotion you can stand (or allow).

Are you expecting others to do away with sentiment, emotion and mutual support -maybe that sort of thing get's in your way -or are you just all alone and hope others will be too?

"Spill," what's your story?

Sorry, but I don't feel embarrassed by your post! ;-) I'm on the look out, and don't mind asking for good links, sorry if that bothers you.

[Pirate Utopian]

lol. :lol:

You know when you give your information to strangers, these strangers might not be who'd you except them to be?, right?

[A_Ciarra]

That is what questioning is for - questioning anything in life. I trust my ability to question anything in life, I haven't come this far in life by being a boob.

You don't need to be a boob to be on the web, you might even gain from the web just as in anything else. Different world, doesn't mean your brain is gone when you use a web page or site. You could sit here and tell me all sorts of shit about yourself, does it mean I buy it? Do you feel the users of personals sites are to stupid to handle where they are at? Don't you think intelligent people use them and can identify corruption?

I don't know what kind of myth exactly you are buying into, but you don't loose your brain just because you take the time to talk to ANY person on line. I mean we are not all 13 year old girls or gullible old ladies that don't know the first thing about people on the internet or otherwise. ...that others before me have failed to use their brains and question shit, has nothing to do with me - personals perform a service and are helpful, at least for me.

I'm not going to sit here and question whether YOU have the ability to decern a fraud on-line just because some other guy has failed to do so before you.

I really think you need to stop buying into some of the web "hysteria" (for lack of a better term) and relax a bit - trust that big girls can take care of themselves. Know what I mean? Seriously though...

I don't mean to be an ass, but you need to relax dude!

[MarxSchmarx]

i have no idea if associations actually blossom or it is chock full of COINTELPRO, but:

http://forums.infoshop.org/viewforum.php?f=39

[Redboy]

lol. :lol:

You know when you give your information to strangers, these strangers might not be who'd you except them to be?, right?

Maybe you should... Oh I don't know, be friendly?

[Pirate Utopian]

No!, piss off you shit! :)

[Jazzratt]

Jazz, how about you go hug a rock, that appears to be all the emotion you can stand (or allow).

Wait, what the hell? How did you get that from "oo er"? It was a reaction to the double entendre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_entendre) I saw in your post. Also, don't you be having a go at my relationship with my dear rock - we're very much in love!


Are you expecting others to do away with sentiment, emotion and mutual support -maybe that sort of thing get's in your way -or are you just all alone and hope others will be too?

Again, where in the blue fuck are you getting all of this from?


"Spill," what's your story?

I'm just a man who evidently loves his pet rock and loathes all emotion :lol:


Sorry, but I don't feel embarrassed by your post! ;-)

Uh, good for you? It isn't really a post meant to embarrass anyone...


I'm on the look out, and don't mind asking for good links, sorry if that bothers you.

Doesn't bother me at all. Be careful of cops and best of luck.

[BurnTheOliveTree]

Why will you only date anarchists?

-Alex

[Plagueround]

Single anarchist women living a mere 3 hours from me and I settled for a liberal Obama lover?

THERE IS NO GOD.*

*(But I guess I already knew that.)

[Os Cangaceiros]

I've never dated a fellow anarchist, but I really want to. :lol:

Most of the girls I've gone out with couldn't have cared less about anything political.

[Knight of Cydonia]

i fucking LOL at this thread, can you imagine who the fuck would join this board only for looking/dating an anarchist guy?!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

A Ciarra, was that you photos? well, you should get rid of it before some admin warn you about it. and i suggest that you get off your nice and cozy computer room, and get on the street then start looking for some anarchist guy in your real live! or ... join a dating forum, not a leftist forum!

fucking hillarious!

[Wanted Man]

Surely, there is a large enough activist scene in Seattle? Actually meeting people that way is probably better than looking for them on the net.

[Plagueround]

i fucking LOL at this thread, can you imagine who the fuck would join this board only for looking/dating an anarchist guy?!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

I don't think anyone would or did. Clearly by her 40ish other posts, she didn't.


A Ciarra, was that you photos? well, you should get rid of it before some admin warn you about it. and i suggest that you get off your nice and cozy computer room, and get on the street then start looking for some anarchist guy in your real live! or ... join a dating forum, not a leftist forum!With about 3.5 million people in the Seattle area alone, it's probably pretty hard to find anarchists. She may have better luck finding people "out on the street", she may not (I tend to agree it may be easier in such a large area to meet other anarchists, but I don't know, I haven't had the opportunity to try yet). What shame or problem is there using the internet as an attempt to find similar minded people, dating or otherwise? It's not as if this is her one and only post, she's participating on this board outside of this.
Besides, anytime a woman posts on this site "the boys club" gets into a frenzy...is she the pathetic one?


fucking hillarious!Yes, finding likeminded and possibly interested people via the internet in this day and age is a desperate and antisocial move...we should shun these freaks. :rolleyes:

[#FF0000]

Wait, you're in Seattle and you're having trouble finding anarchists?

I figured one would trip over anarchists on the way to their car in Seattle.

[OI OI OI]

you re 40 yrs old.....

don't expect to fiind anyone close to your age on revleft.

Also there are just few 40 year old anarchists...

I ve never met one actualy.


Instead you can find someone that does not share the same politics as you but you connect with eachother in other ways.
Politics although important is not the main thing in life.

I ve found non-trot love a couple of times and it was good:)

[A_Ciarra]

Burn,

There is to much of a disconnect for me without being with another anarchist. Even the most "radical" democrat, green etc., has a high level of mythical belief about anarchist thought and ideology and this pretty much prevents any deeper attraction from forming.

Basic attraction provides the energy for people to pursue things further, but when a deep curiosity is lacking they don't take the time to clear up myths etc in order to "bond" on any deep level. I'm not interested in any quickies, or casual interactions. I am looking for true partner situation - if it were just a bootie call thing bonding wouldn't matter because it would just be mere animal attraction. The mistake we make while maybe younger is trying to make true partner situations "fit" over animal attraction and since the animal attraction instinct is so driving, we usually go with the poorer connection rather than thinking about what really works overall. I would rather wait for a situation that is far more enjoyable for me. Aside from all that, I like a partner that is working toward revolution in one way or another - people that don't want change basically turn me off and don't stimulate me otherwise. I'm looking for a comrade to "fight" this class war with, nothing less.


Knight of Cydonia,


i fucking LOL at this thread, can you imagine who the fuck would join this board only for looking/dating an anarchist guy?That's silly. And what business is it of yours what I do, or how I meet people to hook up with in the "real world" (as if what is happening on a computer isn't real either). And if you need to be an authoritarian and report some unimportant image I have, feel free to do so.


Wanted,

It's hard for me to get into the city, it certainly would be ideal if I could meet more men while there, but that takes a certain amount of being rooted and present there - I'm actually 60 miles out of the city, live in a rural setting and other factors come into play. I'm not interested in an anarchist dating sites to become dependent on one, but to "supplement" ways of making connections. Trust me, an anarchist site would perform a cool service to the community - there's definitely people all over out there trying to meet each other but can not connect in person like they could by using technology to "be present in more places at one time".
;)

[A_Ciarra]

OI OI OI.

I'm not here to meet dates as was the silly suggestion of Knight. I have not lost my quest for knowledge and study because I happen to be single and ask a community if they know of any links. Again, it's silly to assume I'm here to find dates. I like to study all the vast information on the board - it's a very good site! I'm both political AND single and can hold more than one simple interest at a time.

I'm am a little surprised at some of the aggression directed at me as a single women though. It seems that some people need to ACTUALLY apply what they preach instead of merely talking about a healthier society.

And look all around at what built the anarchist movement's throughout the planet. How old do you think Emma Goldman was at her most prolific? Emma was 54 when she wrote her book My Disillusionment in Russia. Durruti was 40 when he led 3000 armed anarchists against Franco's armies during the Spanish Civil War ---Bakunin was 54 when he joined the First International ---Bookchin died at 86 ---Michael Albert is 63 -Malatesta was 68 when the Italian government imprisoned him.... You really need to take another look at what's around you and understand who, what and why anarchism is profilic as it is ---who is pasing the baton. You are grossly out of touch if you really believe there aren't any anarchist's over 40 (even if that was an exageration). I don't know what your ideal of an anarchist is, but if you think we dissaper by 40 then I don't know what sustains enough vision for you to have ANY belief in a leftist society.
:star:

[A_Ciarra]

MarxSchmarx,

Very cool, thank you much! :)
I haven't seen this page at Infoshop before.

I'm sure the COINTELPRO or what ever they are calling themselves these days are there too, but what can you do but live your life anyway.

Have a good day.

[Organic Revolution]

go to the infoshop forums.

[Devrim]

you re 40 yrs old.....

don't expect to fiind anyone close to your age on revleft.

Also there are just few 40 year old anarchists...

I ve never met one actualy.

I know many anarchists over 40, and even once met an anarchist in her 90s who had known Lenin.

Then again, I am in my 40s myself.

Could it be the reason that you have never met anarchists over 40 has more to do with your own age, and that you meet people of your own age group?

Devrim

[#FF0000]

I know many anarchists over 40, and even once met an anarchist in her 90s who had known Lenin.

Goddamn where do people meet such interesting folks?

[Devrim]

I think it is about age, Rorschach. When I was your age (18 according to your profile) there were still people around who had experienced the revolutionary wave after the First World War.

What nowadays seems like an age ago, was then something that was in living memory. For example, my grandfather, who is now dead, was a life long CP militant who joined the party on its foundation in 1920.

When our international current came together at its first congress in 1975, there were people there who could remember the Russian revolution, and who had been Sparticists in Germany.

If of course it was just a straight forward question, I met Leah Feldman in London in the 80s.

Devrim

[Fawkes]

I've been there often and it takes a lot of energy - energy needed for other things really.

She means sex.

[Dr Mindbender]

i've thought for a while now that revleft should have a lonely hearts forum or user group(stormfront has one, and we could build the revolution through breeding, so why not? :laugh:) but speaking as a married man it's probably not appropriate for me to take the initiative.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Wait, you're in Seattle and you're having trouble finding anarchists?

I figured one would trip over anarchists on the way to their car in Seattle.

The only place where I've actually met other anarchists without looking for them was in Seattle. My friend and I smoked pot with three anarchists on a street corner (two guys and one girl). I was sixteen at the time. In exchange, they bought us four forty ounce bottles of malt liquor. That was my first "experience with anarchism". :lol:

[Raúl Duke]

The only place where I've actually met other anarchists without looking for them was in Seattle. My friend and I smoked pot with three anarchists on a street corner (two guys and one girl). I was sixteen at the time. In exchange, they bought us four forty ounce bottles of malt liquor. That was my first "experience with anarchism". :lol:

:lol:

My first "experience with anarchism" (somewhat...not really because before hand I heard of the anarchist FAQ but haven't set time to read it) was when I meet my anarchist friend for the first time in a Miami Borders. Then we proceeded to go "urban exploring" first inside the mall then trespassing construction zones.

[OI OI OI]

but if you think we dissaper by 40 then I don't know what sustains enough vision for you to have ANY belief in a leftist society.

Simply, I don't think that anarchists have any hopes of changing society :laugh:

Only with the tradition of Marx, Lenin, Engels and Trotsky we can move forward.



It seems that some people need to ACTUALLY apply what they preach instead of merely talking about a healthier society.

This argument is kind of petit bourgeois.

We don't try to build a world where everyone is nice.
If we did I think I would be the biggest counter revolutionary!
We seek to overthrow capitalism and democraticaly control the means of production through elected and recallable officials.

[Black Dagger]

Only with the tradition of Marx, Lenin, Engels and Trotsky we can move forward.

Don't you think this sort of rhetoric sounds a bit creepy? Like something a brainwashing victim would say... it just needs a *clinks heels together* ting on the end >_<

[Plagueround]

This argument is kind of petit bourgeois.

We don't try to build a world where everyone is nice.
If we did I think I would be the biggest counter revolutionary!
We seek to overthrow capitalism and democraticaly control the means of production through elected and recallable officials.

Her full quote was:
OI OI OI.
I'm am a little surprised at some of the aggression directed at me as a single women though. It seems that some people need to ACTUALLY apply what they preach instead of merely talking about a healthier society.



What she is saying is if people want to promote a classless society that discourages sexism, racism, and other forms of bigotry, treating her the way some people have responded is in direct contradiction with the goals we claim to promote. Treating women with respect and decency isn't petit bourgeois. :rolleyes:

[bcbm]

Wow OI, you have even managed to turn a thread of somebody trying to find a dating site into a sectarian bunch of horse-shit. Good fucking job, asshole.

[OI OI OI]

Wow people are so obsessed with my posts.:lol:


Every time I post I see a mountain of responses I don't care to respond to

[Black Dagger]

To be honest Oi; it's because a lot of your posts seem to be flame-baiting/trolling...

[Knight of Cydonia]

this thread is useless

[bcbm]

Actually, it achieved its requested result- she got some links.

[Raúl Duke]

Don't you think this sort of rhetoric sounds a bit creepy? Like something a brainwashing victim would say... it just needs a *clinks heels together* ting on the end >_<

It sure does...


this thread is useless

I actually friend-requested her in myspace...since I fit the description.

but I suppose I'm too far away to be any good.

[apathy maybe]

Only with the tradition of Marx, Lenin, Engels and Trotsky we can move forward. Don't you think this sort of rhetoric sounds a bit creepy? Like something a brainwashing victim would say... it just needs a *clinks heels together* ting on the end >_<
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG2Khic3_VI

[counterblast]

:confused:

You could just go to chit-chat and make a thread like "Anarchist girl looking for Anarchist guy."

Unfortunately, I live far away from you. ;)


Also I never seen a site for "anarchist dating"

Thats somewhat of an assumption on your part... She never specified that she was looking for an anarchist guy.

[Raúl Duke]

Thats somewhat of an assumption on your part... She never specified that she was looking for an anarchist guy.

You are right...my mistake.

[counterblast]

I'm am a little surprised at some of the aggression directed at me as a single women though. It seems that some people need to ACTUALLY apply what they preach instead of merely talking about a healthier society.


Oh sweetheart, you poor thing! Because all this criticism towards you is obviously because you're an oppressed, single woman!

But seriously, please post your Ayn Rand-esque rantings in the OI forum, and please stop constructing instances of sexism that are clearly not even there. (And you can stop already with the chivalrous cries for "pity".)

You were criticized because you're seeking intimacy with a complete stranger on a radical leftist site.

[Plagueround]

Thats somewhat of an assumption on your part... She never specified that she was looking for an anarchist guy.

Not that it matters, but she did. It's somewhat of an assumption you've made without first investigating the situation.


Oh sweetheart, you poor thing! Because all this criticism towards you is obviously because you're an oppressed, single woman!

But seriously, please post your Ayn Rand-esque rantings in the OI forum, and please stop constructing instances of sexism that are clearly not even there. (And you can stop already with the chivalrous cries for "pity".)

Any Rand-eqsue? Did you actually read anything she wrote, or do you just enjoy tossing those kinds of labels at people you disagree with? Even if "single-woman" was not the appropriate term, it hardly calls for associating someone with such a terrible woman.

She asked an honest question if there was a dating site for leftists and was met with astonishingly rude criticism (this coming from a group of people who are constantly having discussions about the sickening way female comrades are treated on this site nonetheless). It's not as if she posted nude photos of herself here and said "hey anarcho kiddies, come and get it!"

If anyone is reading into things that aren't there, that award would go to you.


You were criticized because you're seeking intimacy with a complete stranger on a radical leftist site.Almost everyone is a stranger at some point. But besides that...

It was a completely legitimate question posted in the "Websites" forum.
(Talk about your favorite leftist websites; engage in serious discussions regarding content on the internet.) She didn't go post it in "Theory" or "Politics" did she? She did nothing wrong and doesn't deserve to be treated this way, and she was also directed toward more fitting links. This thread shouldn't even be this controversial but I suppose some people can't help but look to fight about something.

[counterblast]

Not that it matters, but she did. It's somewhat of an assumption you've made without first investigating the situation.



This isn't even worth arguing; but nowhere did she say that she wanted a male anarchist, prior to JohnnyDarko's post.




She asked an honest question if there was a dating site for leftists and was met with astonishingly rude criticism (this coming from a group of people who are constantly having discussions about the sickening way female comrades are treated on this site nonetheless). It's not as if she posted nude photos of herself here and said "hey anarcho kiddies, come and get it!"


I don't dispute whether or not she was treated nicely. Thats neither here nor there. I did dispute her claims that these attacks were somehow related to sexism, and I decried her reliance on chivalrous stereotypes to garner sympathy.





It was a completely legitimate question posted in the "Websites" forum.
(Talk about your favorite leftist websites; engage in serious discussions regarding content on the internet.) She didn't go post it in "Theory" or "Politics" did she? She did nothing wrong and doesn't deserve to be treated this way, and she was also directed toward more fitting links. This thread shouldn't even be this controversial but I suppose some people can't help but look to fight about something.


Again, I have no desire of debating whether or not looking for love online is legitimate or not. That was not the point of my post.

[Plagueround]

This isn't even worth arguing; but nowhere did she say that she wanted a male anarchist, prior to JohnnyDarko's post.


This isn't even worth arguing, but I'm going to anyway. :rolleyes:

She in fact did say it somewhere, prior to Johhny's post. :lol:

[MarxSchmarx]

MarxSchmarx,

Very cool, thank you much! http://www.revleft.com/vb/../revleft/smilies/001_smile.gif
I haven't seen this page at Infoshop before.

I'm sure the COINTELPRO or what ever they are calling themselves these days are there too, but what can you do but live your life anyway.

Have a good day.

you're welcome, u2 & good luck!!!

[A_Ciarra]

Hi Counterblast,


Oh sweetheart, you poor thing! Because all this criticism towards you is obviously because you're an oppressed, single woman!

I can see how you might pull that one out of the bag since it's entirely plausible I was coming from the angle of playing the of the feeble women card. My mistake, so let me clarify. The fact of the matter is I was addressing aggression in the abstract, and from a observational point of view ---and yes, it was directed at my female status and my sexuality, therefore there is an element of sexism to it. I’m not sure how glaringly sexist something has to be for one to notice an element of it was being played out…. But that speech and communication is imperfect should give you a little cause to slow down and check for a better indication of the things for which you want to define.

That you would define anything here as my fawning fragility is a little concerning as well. I think it’s best to hear people out that might be going through oppressions in the world, and if you come from an angle of apathy, you will not stand up for what is right. That you would assume any fawning in other situations puts you at risk to missing valid injustices.

Plagueround was correct is in seeing that I was speaking strictly about an element of hypocrisy. I don't post much here, but I have read plenty of threads fiercely advocating for women’s rights and how post revolutionary societies will address all this ---how women are respected so highly ---and by the posters ON A PERSONAL LEVEL and not just via government or system etc. My post was a comment on the vast contradiction via watching what was posted here. I mean I just asked about a link and some of the guys that I have otherwise seen speaking of women’s rights, can't discern that this is actually one of them. They then proceed to get snobby and have a sort of sabotage thing going on with what can be a process of my making connections. What is that about if not hypocrisy? Speaking one way, but acting completely another... This is exactly the kind of lack in personal development that will prevent revolutions, let alone help me locate guy’s ----something that should be simple enough thing to do if coming from a authentically helpful or good willed state of mind. A state of mind that address’s single women’s rights, or really just the human need for connection and partnership. That we would begrudge, or otherwise sabotage anyone’s desire for these basic things/rights is just as problematic as if were begrudging people for wanting to create an anti-capitalist society where they could raise their standard of living to something satisfactory.

And you can nit pick at the term sabotage if you like but it's fitting. After all are they being helpful and providing assistance or even mutual aid and doing so with a good willed spirit when they come on being ass's? Hardly.

I like that you did not assume I was strait, thank you for that but I would have liked you to slow down on the assumptions. I am strait through, and do believe I noted that some place, maybe that was on my profile though I don’t know. I don’t think anyone was necessarily assuming that, I know it’s on my myspace page and if they looked at my profile they probably saw found that link.

Anyway, hope your day is cool.
:star:

[Wanted Man]

Wanted,

It's hard for me to get into the city, it certainly would be ideal if I could meet more men while there, but that takes a certain amount of being rooted and present there - I'm actually 60 miles out of the city, live in a rural setting and other factors come into play. I'm not interested in an anarchist dating sites to become dependent on one, but to "supplement" ways of making connections. Trust me, an anarchist site would perform a cool service to the community - there's definitely people all over out there trying to meet each other but can not connect in person like they could by using technology to "be present in more places at one time".
;)
I see. Well, in that case, I hope things work out. Some people instantly reacted to this thread with very harsh and sharp criticism, as if there was some kind of political cardinal question being discussed. It's uncalled for, but I guess some people have a conservative kneejerk reflex whenever something unfamiliar and therefore 'stupid' is brought up. Ah well, that's their problem, I guess. For me, I'll just say 'good luck'. And if you ever think European may be more exciting, you know who to PM. :p

[A_Ciarra]

Hey Wanted,

That's a good point I didn't think of myself. I know people are pretty much in "fight club" mode on boards (including myself), but I didn't quite catch that they may be used to every post being deeply political and forgot to shit gears so to speak. I was in solidarity mode myself (never exclusively). It's easy to get caught up in these weird tensions on-line ---people undoubtedly "translate" more considerate and thoughtful off-line (as they really are). Some of course are just rude wankers anytime. :cool:

I'm definitely open to European men and relocating there ---for sure.:thumbup1: I've never been there, but the spirit and passion for revolution is very strong there and I thrive with that.............. It would draw me for sure.

[Wanted Man]

It's funny how easy it is to be a jerk online. In the real world, when someone comes up with a subject that is somehow 'unusual', surely the other person wouldn't immediately be like: "What the hell! Are you crazy?? It's obviously impossible because of so-and-so-and-so! Forget about it!"

Anyway, you really should see what things are like across the pond. Amsterdam is a lovely place! :D Although the movement isn't quite as big as in, say, France, there may still be plenty to do. An action against a nazi demonstartion, now that soudns like a fun date. :laugh:

[Rascolnikova]

I've never dated a fellow anarchist, but I really want to. :lol:

Most of the girls I've gone out with couldn't have cared less about anything political.

Most of the guys I've gone out with seemed to care significantly that I should not be political.

This strikes me as somehow circular . . .

[Wanted Man]

That's a shame. I would never want to go out with someone who only says 'yes, you're right', not in politics nor in any other subject. I think it would be pretty boring if I insisted that the person I go out with is not 'political'.

[Rascolnikova]

I share that view.

Politically I want, if anyone, someone who is passionately committed to ideals which have significant overlap with mine--passionately enough that when we disagree on how those ideals can be realized, they don't fold.

There's no use in sharing your life with someone whose perspective you respect if they don't have their own perspective.

[Wanted Man]

mnNSe5XYp6E
Heh, that's brilliant. I'm actually reminded of certain movements that are promoted by some people on RevLeft...

[OI OI OI]

LOL nice video

reminds me of the Larouchites

[apathy maybe]

LOL nice video

reminds me of the Larouchites

Funny thing, it reminded me of your mob...

Want devoted follows who give up their money and bodies... (etc.).

Don't tell them who you really are (front groups, wait they say that in the film).

Promise to fulfill their dreams.

Etc.

[OI OI OI]

Funny thing, it reminded me of your mob...

Want devoted follows who give up their money and bodies... (etc.).

Don't tell them who you really are (front groups, wait they say that in the film).

Promise to fulfill their dreams.

Etc.

First of all a revolutionary organization needs grassroots funding as there is no funding from rich donors, and if there was that organization would cease to be revolutionary.

But what would you know about that you have never organized.

Also nobody gives their bodies:laugh:

Also nobody forces you to be devoted. Different activists have different degrees of comitment. Although an organization would want all their activists commited and devoted as it would be more productive, you cannot force people to be that way.

It is a voluntary organization after all.

Also front groups are very common in the way socialists organize.

The Communist PArty of Greece has PAME which is a union of workers as a front group. The IMT has HOV and the CWI has a youth group. And so on and so on.

But how would you know about that, you never organized shit.

Also no one promises to fullfill anyones dream.
That is kind of anarchist talk.

Ya, man we will build a commune, and have no leaders and *passes the join around* and there will be peace man.

We talk about difficulties, blood, tears and sacrifice in order to overthrow capitalism.,

[bcbm]

You planning to build a fire with that giant strawman?

[JimmyJazz]

Seattle must have an anarchist bookstore.

[lombas]

Single anarchist women living a mere 3 hours from me and I settled for a liberal Obama lover?

THERE IS NO GOD.*

*(But I guess I already knew that.)

Single anarchist women living a mere 24 hrs flying from me and I settled for a conservative liberal with an attitude?

NO, THERE CERTAINLY AIN'T NO GOD.

[Reclaimed Dasein]

I share that view.

Politically I want, if anyone, someone who is passionately committed to ideals which have significant overlap with mine--passionately enough that when we disagree on how those ideals can be realized, they don't fold.

There's no use in sharing your life with someone whose perspective you respect if they don't have their own perspective.
Eh, well there might be something be said for someone who's apolitical. It might be worth while to take a break from politics for a while.

[Plagueround]

Eh, well there might be something be said for someone who's apolitical. It might be worth while to take a break from politics for a while.

The problem I've come across with that is the person doesn't understand your views or why they're important...leading to some nasty "non-political' political conflict".

[Rascolnikova]

Eh, well there might be something be said for someone who's apolitical. It might be worth while to take a break from politics for a while.
. . .

drunk posting?

[Reclaimed Dasein]

. . .

drunk posting?
I think that's hardly fair. I think the point is all moot for me anyway, but it seems that there's a strong argument to be made that perhaps people would want a free space where they don't have to think about political issues.

Also, you travel all the way across the damn country and you have nothing better to do than harangue me?

[rebelmouse]

I'm a single in need of a hook up, but I only date anarchist's. What is a girl to do - I'm not meeting many people on any other daily basis! And it's sure frustrating trying to locate like minded radicals on-line with the specific intent of dating. Listings just are not out there other than on a couple punk sites which of course is not political anarchism but rather nihilism.

:wub: Has anyone ever seen or thought of running a dating site for our community???

Of course if say Revleft ran a dating site at very minimal prices it could be co-owned and used to help support whatever ventures might be at hand...


thread is long so I can't read everything, I just want to say that soon I will create AnarchoSpace, social networking site, similar like MySpace. Of course there will be group for dating. I thought to make especially site for dating but I understood that it is better to make social networking because more people will visit it. among other things, they can create and visit group for dating. but plan is to connect people globally, today we must visit many websites (news and forums to get info or to send info), so it would be good to have everything at one website (plus personal or profile of organization, so people can see more about each other, they can meet each other better). but it depends from people, how much they will participate. I hope till the end of January, it will be finished. one test version is created with phpfox, second with clone of MySpace:
(ups, I don't have right to post links, when I finish, I will publish original version)...
I plan also and FreeLove website, included in anarchist idea and with possibility for people to destroy conservativism: to upload their photos or videos. but still I wait answers for web hosting for the both websites: free love & social networking. The both sites are imagined like interactive (other people should participate, not only to consume).

[Reclaimed Dasein]

thread is long so I can't read everything, I just want to say that soon I will create AnarchoSpace, social networking site, similar like MySpace. Of course there will be group for dating. I thought to make especially site for dating but I understood that it is better to make social networking because more people will visit it. among other things, they can create and visit group for dating. but plan is to connect people globally, today we must visit many websites (news and forums to get info or to send info), so it would be good to have everything at one website (plus personal or profile of organization, so people can see more about each other, they can meet each other better). but it depends from people, how much they will participate. I hope till the end of January, it will be finished. one test version is created with phpfox, second with clone of MySpace:
(ups, I don't have right to post links, when I finish, I will publish original version)...
I plan also and FreeLove website, included in anarchist idea and with possibility for people to destroy conservativism: to upload their photos or videos. but still I wait answers for web hosting for the both websites: free love & social networking. The both sites are imagined like interactive (other people should participate, not only to consume).
Well this sounds like an interesting idea, none the less. Good luck. I hope you post here often enough that we can see what you're up to.

[An archist]

thread is long so I can't read everything, I just want to say that soon I will create AnarchoSpace, social networking site, similar like MySpace. Of course there will be group for dating. I thought to make especially site for dating but I understood that it is better to make social networking because more people will visit it. among other things, they can create and visit group for dating. but plan is to connect people globally, today we must visit many websites (news and forums to get info or to send info), so it would be good to have everything at one website (plus personal or profile of organization, so people can see more about each other, they can meet each other better). but it depends from people, how much they will participate. I hope till the end of January, it will be finished. one test version is created with phpfox, second with clone of MySpace:
(ups, I don't have right to post links, when I finish, I will publish original version)...
I plan also and FreeLove website, included in anarchist idea and with possibility for people to destroy conservativism: to upload their photos or videos. but still I wait answers for web hosting for the both websites: free love & social networking. The both sites are imagined like interactive (other people should participate, not only to consume).

Please, don't make it any easyer for the cops then it is, don't allow people to post personal information or pictures.

[Reclaimed Dasein]

Please, don't make it any easyer for the cops then it is, don't allow people to post personal information or pictures.
Do you actually have a problem with the police? I know here we WISH the authorities gave a shit enough to follow our activities. Unfortunately, we're mostly powerless in every way. We're working on that though.

[rebelmouse]

Please, don't make it any easyer for the cops then it is, don't allow people to post personal information or pictures.

sorry, police is more interested for breaking of law, secret agency is interested to spy us. police just assist to secret agency when they want to arrest someone.
my personal opinion is that secret agencies have their passive iformators in leftist (communist and anarchist) movement from the time of Red Brigades and RAF, etc. so, from 1970's they have their people and when you create squat group in netherland, what do you thin, that they don't have anyone between you? they have. there are people who active participate in leftist actions and they have way of thinking which is good for secret agency: they are against "extremists". or they can hide themselves better if they support "extremists". but mostly they are against such activities. therefore movement is pacified in europe in last 15 years. they succeeded.
therefore, I don't care for spying of profiles. if we don't open AnarchoSpace, then anarchist will open profile at MySpace or Facebook, and then they will be spied 100% (who are friends with us, what messages we send each to other, our IP addresses, etc). so anarchist social networking site is much better solution for our security: server is from anarchists, so they will not cooperate with cops, administrators of site are anarchists, they will not cooperate with cops/spies.
in the end, nobody stop individuals to use nickname instead of name.
but shortly said, we are not everybody so much worried for observation of our actions and activities. in principe, only armed actions should be really secret. all other things don't touch authorities, although some authorities like to send us police just to disturb us. like it was in the case of gathering of squatters in freiburg in germany (I think last year or 2 years ago).
in any case, security is better at anarchospace than at myspace. and secret agency already have info about people. I am for example, 24 hours under observation, because I wanted to do some things. but as you see, they didn't arrest me, although they will do it maybe because I started to drive bike around houses of politicians. they follow me, so they know where I go and I published all addresses at my site (even that page at my site dissapeared so database don't accept anymore this text and these days I watch how to publish it again, maybe I publish at this forum, until I find how to publish at my site).
in any case, if you want to check who work for secret agency, just contact people and say: I need money to buy machine gun, can you finance it? usually they will not answer, but police will come with car to the place where you use computer when you login again in that account from which you sent message. and such people have profiles at youtube and everywhere with glorifying of ulrike meinhof, and other urban guerilla people. although I can't be 100% sure, maybe YouTube catch message and forward to cops. but I think more that user of profile is in connection with secret agency. I have nose for rats. I know very good when rats of secret agency follow me and I published also who they are. tomorrow I will publish that page at this forum. now I must go to sleep.