serious question for the lefties - Lets keep this serious

[Chiak47]

When you Lefties here decide on the next revolution.Who you going to turn too?
Some bleeding heart to lead you fight or a blood thirsty chap like Mazdak?

What kind would you want next too you in a foxhole?

Thanks,
Tired and purged In Chicago

[Ghost Writer]

Definitely not Mazdak. He would probably shoot you in the back to work his way up the ranks.

[synthesis]

I'm what you'd call a Menchevik (yeah, you Leninists can kill me now) so I certainly go with someone like Nader or Allende.

Although, of course, like any good Marxist, I hope to see the state dissipate entirely someday.

BTW, Chiak, what's with all this 'purged' stuff? Are you bulemic? That's no good. I can get you some good doctors over there in Chicago.

[CubaVictoria1983]

Not to be a dickhead or anything, but I'd probably keep to myself....and other people who I trust and know who could go on with the whole ride and not do it half assedly. I know a lot of people are hoping that a revolution will occur soon and I am not exempt of the hope.
About bulimia.....hee hee hee....chipmunk cheeks.

[Eastside Revolt]

You can't really choose in a situation like that. You have to wait 'till after the revolution. But if some "bleeding-heart" then I'll offer my services. If it's someone like Mazdak, OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!! We Don't need no more touble.

[Saint-Just]

I don't think Mazdak would appreciate being called a triator. I would have any Marxist-Leninist with me.

[Chiak47]

Good replies.I personally thought you guys would use someone like Mazdak to lead through the revolution and then put someone like Redstar2000 in office(dictatorship)I mean the guy met CHE.
I'm impressed.Hell I met the mascot for the Bluejays once.Top that...


BTW, Chiak, what's with all this 'purged' stuff? Are you bulemic? That's no good. I can get you some good doctors over there in Chicago.

I'm fine-thank you.I probably would not like the doctor's you would try to get me to go to...

Thank you all,
mine



(Edited by Chiak47 at 10:46 pm on Mar. 26, 2003)

[Chiak47]

BTW edited to be nice...
I'm sorry for what I put originally

[chamo]

Awww, how considerate of you chiak, you are indeed a true gentleman.

[thursday night]

Do you guys want to lay off Mazdak? Sheesh!

Anyways, I believe the true leaders of today’s socialist movement are the revolutionary leadership of the socialist states, people like Fidel Castro and so forth. People like Hugo Chavez, , Kim Jong Il and others should also be trusted as the potential leaders and comrades in a people’s revolution.

[Larissa]

Quote: from Chairman Mao on 7:40 pm on Mar. 26, 2003
I don't think Mazdak would appreciate being called a triator. I would have any Marxist-Leninist with me.
I second that, Chairman Mao.

[redstar2000]

Hey Chiak47, you met the mascot of the Toronto Blue Jays. Wow! I'm really impressed!

Did he give you a lot of tips about mascoting? I understand the Toledo Mud Hens have an opening...maybe you should apply. :cheesy:

I'm sure you didn't discuss baseball...that would be far over your head. I figure go-cart racing is about on your level...perhaps NASCAR if I've underestimated you.

I'd only accept the office of dictator for a few days...long enough to sign a few execution orders. Guess who'd be on the list. :cheesy:

:cool:

[Anonymous]

It's better than meeting Che, and I don't even like baseball that much.

[Eastside Revolt]

Quote: from thursday night on 11:23 pm on Mar. 26, 2003
Do you guys want to lay off Mazdak? Sheesh!

Anyways, I believe the true leaders of today’s socialist movement are the revolutionary leadership of the socialist states, people like Fidel Castro and so forth. People like Hugo Chavez, , Kim Jong Il and others should also be trusted as the potential leaders and comrades in a people’s revolution.


Kim Jong's a fuck, may he die slowly.

[Just Joe]

Quote: from Chairman Mao on 10:40 pm on Mar. 26, 2003
I don't think Mazdak would appreciate being called a triator. I would have any Marxist-Leninist with me.


doesn't being a totalitarian titwank go against the basic reasons of being a Marxist?

and baseball is really....REALLY, shite.

[thursday night]

Thanks for such an educated view, redcanada.

[Eastside Revolt]

A man like that doesn't deserve constuctive criticism.

[antieverything]

Yeah, I'm all for regime change in North Korea...anything would be better than the hell they call communism over there.

The fact is, the only revolution I can see happening is something like the Spanish Civil War...the people protecting the democratically elected leftist government against the armies of fascists...damn, that is one the finest parts of history and the history books just sort of skip over it...only aknowledging it as a sort of prelude to WWII instead of the amazing struggle for democracy and terrible failure of Western democratic governments to live up to their values that it was.

[thursday night]

How is the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (North Korea) a corrupt fascist state as you make it out to be? As an anti-imperialist and a Marxist-Leninist, I believe it to be vital to our cause to defend countries that have been victims of imperialism and are trying to build a new society. I do not view the DPRK as a prime example of revolutionary socialism (it is not anywhere near that), but nevertheless it should be defended.

There are problems currently arising in North Korea, and certainly to some extent these are the fault of the socialist government. However, the DPRK has faced cruel blockades from the United States, a devastating three-year war, freak weather incidents and draughts and not to mention the unrelenting imperialist military buildup just south of the small country’s border. Despite all this, from the creation of the DPRK socialism has provided it’s citizens with social services and has given them a decent standard of living (mainly in urban areas).

I am no expert on the DPRK (my knowledge is however quite substantial regarding the Cuban Revolution), and if you would like to learn more I suggest you speak to Chairman Mao on these forms.

[synthesis]

Quote: from Chiak47 on 10:47 pm on Mar. 26, 2003
BTW edited to be nice...
I'm sorry for what I put originally


Anyone mind telling me what he said originally?

[kelvin90701]

I don't need anyone. I can put 20 out 20 shots into a 3 inch diameter disk at 200 yards with an AR-15, without any optics. Measure across your head? Is it bigger than 3"?

(Edited by kelvin90701 at 2:16 am on Mar. 27, 2003)

[Chiak47]

Kelvin,I know your still reading this.
Thats good shooting.

Hope we never need to to use our skills to quell false ideas.

[antieverything]

I can squat almost 500 pounds and I got a full scholarship to one of the top liberal arts schools in Texas...who fucking cares?

[Eastside Revolt]

I can touch my nose with my tounge.

[synthesis]

I can jam to Hendrix and read this forum at the same time.

[kelvin90701]

Quote: from antieverything on 1:48 am on Mar. 28, 2003
I can squat almost 500 pounds and I got a full scholarship to one of the top liberal arts schools in Texas...who fucking cares?


I am really impressed, but both are unimportant in a fox hole.

[Saint-Just]

Quote: from Just Joe on 12:36 am on Mar. 27, 2003

Quote: from Chairman Mao on 10:40 pm on Mar. 26, 2003
I don't think Mazdak would appreciate being called a triator. I would have any Marxist-Leninist with me.


doesn't being a totalitarian titwank go against the basic reasons of being a Marxist?

and baseball is really....REALLY, shite.


I've never before heard anyone being referred to as a 'totalitarian titwank'. I do not know what Mazdak would want to say of this.

'A man like that doesn't deserve constuctive criticism.'

Why is this? I would suggest that he is a man of great integrity. He leads a socialist nation with an indomitable spirit. Recently his mastery of foreign policy has kept the U.S. at bay. In 1993 when the U.S. threatened to attack the DPRK he closed down nuclear plants as the U.S. demanded. He then agreed a deal in which the U.S. would provide light water reactors and oil as they were being built so the DPRK could produce energy after the U.S. forced the closure of its nuclear plants. Then after the DPRK-U.S. agreed framework which was signed 8 years ago broke down as the U.S. said that a DPRK diplomat had admitted to DPRK nuclear development. The U.S. had never kept to their side of the deal anyway:

“Often forgotten in accounts of North Korean duplicity is that the Americans have not kept most of these promises.” –Martin Woolacott The Guardian Newspaper.

The U.S. would no longer allow them to acquire oil or any other means of creating enery – this was in a hope to break the regime down economically. To counter this, since the DPRK was now out of the Agreed Framework due to the U.S. having pulled out, it withdrawed from the NPT, and legally restarted its reactors to once again create energy. Then the U.S. said it would have to take affirmative action unless the DPRK stop its nuclear programme that the U.S. could not even substantiate actually existed. The U.S. has torn up the agreements it has with the DPRK so that the DPRK could once again become self-sufficient in energy production, although it still struggles due to blocades. The DPRK, under the army-orientated policy of the 90's onwards had created a force strong enough to keep the U.S. warmongers at bay. Subsequently the U.S. hopes to weaken the DPRK economically so that it can then launch a military campaign to destroy socialism in Korea. As this happens the DPRK is remaining economically stable after years of decline due to blocade and retains an army strong enough to make the U.S. think twice. The DPRK however, really does need nuclear weapons when there are around 1,700 U.S. nuclear warheads in South Korea.

The DPRK has repeatedly offered to sign a no-strike agreement with the U.S. that would agree that neither side would strike first. However, the U.S. has rejected this saying that would be to reward the DPRK for its bad behaviour.


Kim Jong Il leads a great and prosperous Marxist-Leninist nation with a bright future.