"Put your cards on the table"

[Eastside Revolt]

Honestly if we are gonna argue between conflicting ideologies and values, we might as well truthfully tell what kinds of policies we support.

I aim this at the capitalists. I feel It would be beneficial to both our causes to admit the fact the americans are a new kind of imperialism. They impose their elitist will on their neighbours. So why don't you come out and tell us the truth about how you feel towards poor americans, and middle-class to poor citizens of other nations.

[Chiak47]

Capitalism-Everybody has a chance here in the USA to make something out of themselves..It might be rough but life is rough.If you have a idea and honest goals they are achievable.

Commie-everybody is the same....poor

Socialism...Why should I pay 75% of my wages so goverment can piss it on things such as but not limited too-dope heads and homes without fathers around.

[Ghost Writer]

I certainly hope this thread wasn't pointed at me. I have been "laying my cards on the table" since I got here. In fact, I have been banned because of it. Why don't you "lay your cards on the table". Your kind hasn't even been willing to ante up.

Stormin Norman

[Moondog]

I am an American, born in France so I hold French and American Passports (dual nationality) and I will say that America is imperialistic in nature. I do frown on many American policies, but no one is all good. I think a majority of Americans are unimformed, and unfortunately don't make the effort to inform themselves. We have a right to freedom of speech and of the press, but evrything here is incredibly censored, much more so than in Europe. So I think most Americans don't know whats being done in their name. And most of those that do are not willing to upset the balance, probably for fear of looking stupid, or of being blacklisted and ousted like the communists of the 50s and 60s. I think if we were all informed we would see the errors of our ways. I can't say much about other nations unfortunately, but maybe some people will post information to educate me.

[Chiak47]

Ghost Writer,
I work with people with the same ideals as these people.I get so frustrated at the lack of common sence most of them have.
I feel most of them think the Goverment owes them something.
Man I can not wait till I go back to work.HOLY shit I'm loosing my mind.

[Chiak47]

Moondog,
Just follow your heart and remember nobody owes you shit.You will do ok.
Really life is not bad and never follow somebody-always lead yourself.
Your individual-not the same as anyone else.
Think and question everything-even your own goverment( I said It HAPPY )
Love something so much it hurts and vow never too let go of it.
Don't sweat the small shit.LAUGH all the time.I am always laughing.I laugh for the shit of it.I can find humor in anything.
But most importantly Live life.

There-The bleeding heart in me is out.

302 posts in 2 days...NEW RECORD I THINK

oh yea-hate commies...

I had too.

[Moondog]

lol, I can't hate anyone. I know no one owes me shit, and I don't expect anything from anyone. I laugh at everything, and get in trouble for it often. And of course I don't follow, but I can't lead either, because who in their right mind would follow the likes of me, since drugs and indecent exposure are still a crime?

[Chiak47]

Moondog,
read my sig.
Those quotes are from a man who lived in commie utopia.He was sent to gulags fo along time.
Interesting guy really.
BTW check your PM.
Thank you,
ME

[Moondog]

I'm rather new to this, so I don't know what a sig is. Also, I do not know what my PM is. And if I come off as a communist, believe me, I am not as of yet. I am simply a man who enjoys debate, and meeting like minded people. I'm not here to offend anyone, just learn from them.

[Chiak47]

http://www.ak-47.net/

"Criminal is the government that throws the national property up for grabs and its citizens into the teeth of beasts of prey in the absence of law." --Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

"The clock of communism has stopped striking. But its concrete building has not yet come crashing down. For that reason, instead of freeing ourselves, we must try to save ourselves from being crushed by its rubble."--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

PM means private messenger-Its up at the top of this page it says- Messenger.

[Moondog]

Gotcha, thanks.

[Chiak47]

No problem.Any questions just PM me.


Dont mind me.
I'm on a crusade..no pun intended.LOL

[sc4r]

Quote: from Moondog on 9:15 am on Mar. 26, 2003
I'm rather new to this, so I don't know what a sig is. Also, I do not know what my PM is. And if I come off as a communist, believe me, I am not as of yet. I am simply a man who enjoys debate, and meeting like minded people. I'm not here to offend anyone, just learn from them.


The first point to grasp is that these guys are out and out liars moon dog. All of them have been told 1000 times that nobody here believes in the USSR system and that everyone here pretty much says it was Fascist not communist or socialist. They know this full well , but they persist because it suits their purpose.

Learn and think for yourself. Dont believe me and dont believe them. Be evry careful about what you accept from them, dig deep into the bottom line meanng of what they say because there are all sorts of things they say the words for which simply dont really work that way (as an example you will hear them say that they support democracy, dig deep into what this actually means to them and you will find they dont, they say the words to gather support, they dont believe in it though).

best wishes and good luck

(Edited by sc4r at 11:18 am on Mar. 26, 2003)


(Edited by sc4r at 11:22 am on Mar. 26, 2003)