Greetings

[Gleb]

Oh hai and nice to meet you gentlemen

I happened to bump here through my journeys in Google realm some weeks ago and after lurking this place for a moment, I decided to register and give a try; to debate and learn about leftist politics and theories.

So, I'm a Finnish high school student and I'm keen on things like history, politics and progressional rock music. I've always been kind of an "-ism" hater, and thus I really am not able to categorize myself properly, and my weak theoretical abilities are not helpful on that - not that I even wanted to be categorized. But anyways, with political values such as grassroot democracy, social liberalism and staunch support of secular values and politics, I don't think I'll be having problems with fitting in.

With warm regards,
The Sinful She-Goat

[Sentinel]

Welcome to the board! Where in Finland are you from?

I'm also finnish but born & raised here in Sweden. I did live in Finland for a while though, in Turku and in Seinäjoki.

Check the Nordic subforum, I have a finnish introduction thread there.

Great name too. :lol:

[RedAnarchist]

Hi, welcome to RevLeft:)

[Holden Caulfield]

welcome to the board comrade

happy posting

[Gleb]

Oh, nice to see other Scands here too. :) I love Sweden and I spent a week on Stockholm this summer; I fell in love with the city and the people in ett ögonblick. My Swedish skills are nothing to boast with though. :P

I've been living my whole life in Tampere area, a nice little city too.

And thanks for the warm welcome from all you darlings!

[Holden Caulfield]

^ i went to Bergen once...

[Sentinel]

I've been living my whole life in Tampere area, a nice little city too.

I always used to change trains there, when I lived in Seinäjoki, but have never really properly been to the Red capital of Finland. Is there a strong leftist scene there these days?

It's a shame I've never had time to get more familiar with the city, as everyone from there I've met have been really cool. :)


My Swedish skills are nothing to boast with though. :P

Finnish is my first language too, the one I prefer, even though I obviously speak both.


^ i went to Bergen once...

What does Norway have to do with anything? :D Also, where are you from btw? England?

[Holden Caulfield]

What does Norway have to do with anything? :D Also, where are you from btw? England?


everybody was talking about Scandinavia and i felt left out, okay..

i am from sunny sunny England, on the west coast, but in 6 days i will be an east coast boy

[Sentinel]

everybody was talking about Scandinavia and i felt left out, okay..


Finland isn't Scandinavia, though. Fennoscandia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fennoscandia), however.

Just to be an ass. :lol:

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

everybody was talking about Scandinavia and i felt left out, okay..

i am from sunny sunny England, on the west coast, but in 6 days i will be an east coast boy

You are movin in on my coast damn it!

[Gleb]

I always used to change trains there, when I lived in Seinäjoki, but have never really properly been to the Red capital of Finland. Is there a strong leftist scene there these days?

It's a shame I've never had time to get more familiar with the city, as everyone from there I've met have been really cool. :)


Nah, leftist scene isn't really strong anymore and it's nothing like it used to be. Kokoomus is actually bigger party down here than Social Democrats! That's really not a shame though, I can't say I'm a big fan of local communist movement, considering that during its strongest days it was nothing but a huge Soviet fanboy club really. And the social democrats don't basically offer nothing new really, they just wrap the establishment to new kind of paper.
Most actually good ideas stem from the green movement who happen to be only actually serious liberal movement down here, and I'm voting them.

And yeah, our boundless coolness is our only weakness. ;)

EDIT: And oh, I'm not very used to writing in English so I'm sorry for any possible mistakes and it would be even appreciated if you mentioned them so that I actually could improve my skills more efficiently

[Holden Caulfield]

You are movin in on my coast damn it!

never compare the north anything to the south anything:lol:


Finland isn't Scandinavia, though. Fennoscandia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fennoscandia), however.

Just to be an ass. :lol:

etomological nit-picking, seriously your worse than Jacob, be ashamed:lol:

[Sentinel]

I can't say I'm a big fan of local communist movement, considering that during its strongest days it was nothing but a huge Soviet fanboy club really.

Yeah, don't get me started on finnish tankies. I was raised by two of them and scarred for life, haha. My mother says that when she was young she thought Stalin was 'strong and fair (vahva ja oikeudenmukainen)'. :rolleyes:

What is depressing about the situation in Finland, is that the classwar anarchist scene seems to be entirely absent. I'm a members of the syndicalist SAC here in Sweden, and went to finnish forums on the net looking for anything similar, finding zip, zero, nil.



Most actually good ideas stem from the green movement who happen to be only actually serious liberal movement down here, and I'm voting them.


I don't believe in voting. But I found it hilarious when the pro-marijuana legalisation politician Markus Drake smoked pot in an open Green party meeting (or something) during the elections a couple of years ago and caused a huge scandal in the press. :lol:



your worse than Jacob, be ashamed


:blushing:

[Gleb]

Yeah, don't get me started on finnish tankies. I was raised by two of them and scarred for life, haha. My mother says that when she was young she thought Stalin was 'strong and fair (vahva ja oikeudenmukainen)'. :rolleyes:

What is depressing about the situation in Finland, is that the classwar anarchist scene seems to be entirely absent. I'm a members of the syndicalist SAC here in Sweden, and went to finnish forums on the net looking for anything similar, finding zip, zero, nil.

I don't believe in voting. But I found it hilarious when the pro-marijuana legalisation politician Markus Drake smoked pot in an open Green party meeting (or something) during the elections a couple of years ago and caused a huge scandal in the press. :lol:


Anarchism in Finland? Really, don't bother trying. There is no such thing as 'political left one actually is able to take seriously' in Finland, and hasn't been in long, long time.

And I know that voting certainly isn't an actually working way to improve the society, but I still prefer to vote for the lesser evil, for people who are most close to my personal beliefs and actually have some kind of say for how things are done in this country. I know that through voting actual reforms towards truly democratic system are not done but by taking part on decision-making inside the current political establishment really, while it isn't very useful, it sure doesn't harm anyone, either.

[Malakangga]

welcome here,comrade