a communist corporation to spread the message

[danyboy27]

i got an idea on how we could sell communism.

one of the main edge communism have is the way the people get together to do thing, the way they do stuff for the cause, and all the knowledge they share.

we could sell communsim has a corporation, but instead of having the overall goal of making money, its goal would be the help the peoples of the world.

communist cells worldwide would organize themselve to develop social infrastructures worldwide, build social housing, making money from those cheap housing to finance other social goal such has feeding the poor and the children, educate children, having private schools owned by this Organization, special provate school that would offer education at a lower cost than the usual provate school,but that would give to the people a better education than the public school.

in other word, doing what a usual corporation is doing, but with has a goal filling the social gaps the society dont.

if its work, communism would become global in a matter of year, and it would be implented in all sphere of this world: cultural, industrial, military and political.

[Bud Struggle]

Aren't various strand of Communism WAY to busy doing the glorious work of fighting each other to do anything that actually helps the Proletariat like this?

Sorry Spet, there are COMMUNISTS we are talking to.:lol:

An idea like this might find it's way among the Fascists.:rolleyes:

[BurnTheOliveTree]

...No.

You need to find out a bit about communism, with all due respect. A corporation, dear oh dear. :(

-Alex

[danyboy27]

Aren't various strand of Communism WAY to busy doing the glorious work of fighting each other to do anything that actually helps the Proletariat like this?

Sorry Spet, there are COMMUNISTS we are talking to.:lol:

An idea like this might find it's way among the Fascists.:rolleyes:

no way, i hate those fascist bastard

[Schrödinger's Cat]

Uh, corporations are legal entities protected by state charters whose success relies on the profit-motive: capitalists make a good fortunate off of a company without even contributing an ounce of necessary labor.

You have very utopian ideas. Sorry.

[danyboy27]

Uh, corporations are legal entities protected by state charters whose success relies on the profit-motive: capitalists make a good fortunate off of a company without even contributing an ounce of necessary labor.

You have very utopian ideas. Sorry.


that just the komintern modern version, that pretty much it.

[Bud Struggle]

Uh, corporations are legal entities protected by state charters whose success relies on the profit-motive: capitalists make a good fortunate off of a company without even contributing an ounce of necessary labor.

You have very utopian ideas. Sorry.


Don't get all legalistic. There may be an interesting idea in there. This is where the Fascists have you beat. They will take an idea like this and run with it--if it works, fine. If it doesn't, fine. But they try it.

Communists are all of: "Says nothing of Internet in Dos Kapital!" "NYEY!!!!"

[Schrödinger's Cat]

Fascists will also take up the idea that we kill the children of "Negroes" to send a chill down their parents' spines. Racial segregation = no bad influences for whites = end to white poverty!


There may be an interesting idea in there.

Sure. Private organizations could get involved with reclamation and humanitarian efforts. But it sounds like an argument for a regular corporation.

[danyboy27]

but force to admit, to make thing moving, money is needed.

[Bud Struggle]

Make it or better yet--ask George Soros.

[danyboy27]

Make it or better yet--ask George Soros.


wow.
i didnt think it was possible but you made me want to read books about a billionaire.

seriously. wow.
i got a model now.

[Bud Struggle]

wow.
i didnt think it was possible but you made me want to read books about a billionaire.

seriously. wow.
i got a model now.

To do anything you want--YOU NEED NO ONE.

Use whatever system is available and DO WHAT YOU WANT.

That's how the REAL world works. Communism, Capitalism, who cares? Such things are for followers.

Use what is there to accomplish what you want to do.

The rest is jibbersih.

Really.

Tom

[Robert]

Spetnaz, are you pulling our legs? You sound like you've got a lot of energy and a positive attitude and now want to go ahead and make money since the commies (as usual) are just finding fault with your ideas.

Tom, this kid's going to buy us BOTH out in a few years. With his attitude and energy, what's to stop him?

Watch your back!:lol:

[danyboy27]

Spetnaz, are you pulling our legs? You sound like you've got a lot of energy and a positive attitude and now want to go ahead and make money since the commies (as usual) are just finding fault with your ideas.

Tom, this kid's going to buy us BOTH out in a few years. With his attitude and energy, what's to stop him?

Watch your back!:lol:

yea, a lot of things been bouncing in my head these day, i am questionning my old way of looking at the thing, i am questionning my perspective of the things.

i often got a lot of idea, but i am often affraid to take risk, but with time, i am realizing that an individual taking no risk have a confortable but boring life. i was always affraid to make money, i never wanted to become an monster like bull gate, but people like tomk and that guy he mentionned above are proving me that its possible to be rich and have a conscience and values.

i have been quiet for 23 year, time to shake things down, time to find a spine and use it well.

my greatest dream would be to kick some buisness ass, the one that dont respect nobody like my current buisness, and give to the people working in it a better life.

[Bud Struggle]

Tom, this kid's going to buy us BOTH out in a few years. With his attitude and energy, what's to stop him?

Watch your back!:lol:


This kid's the real thing.

You don't see them often, but when you do. DAMN.

I'm buying stock in what he'll be selling.

[Pirate Utopian]

lol at this thread. Just lol.
Spetnaz, even if this idea made sense, you need to be moneyhungry to function as a corporation, it's therefore not some origanisational tool for change seeing as you still need to get profits first, lifeimprovement second to keep going.

I'm glad I have no ambitions of starting a corporation else TomK's gospel on this thread would have gotten to me. ;)

[danyboy27]

This kid's the real thing.

You don't see them often, but when you do. DAMN.

I'm buying stock in what he'll be selling.


its the first time EVER that i see that much peoples being sympathetics toward my ideas. Where i live, people think i am extravagant or silly.

Recently i was talking about promoting the open source software to my buddies has an alternative to windows. After all , a windows license is like 255 buck? i can make a deal with the client and explain him that for the same amount of money, i install Ubuntu and i give him a extensive formation of 10 hours.

what about that? look credible too?

[danyboy27]

lol at this thread. Just lol.
Spetnaz, even if this idea made sense, you need to be moneyhungry to function as a corporation, it's therefore not some origanisational tool for change seeing as you still need to get profits first, lifeimprovement second to keep going.

I'm glad I have no ambitions of starting a corporation else TomK's gospel on this thread would have gotten to me. ;)

there is no reason to do not look for more money IN THAT SOCIETY, i just realized it.

money is a tool, and i got has objective to keep hjaving a simple life even if i got a shitload of money.

anyone seen american gangster? did you rmemeber the way the guy tried to keep aving a simple life despite having all that money? i wanna be like that.

[Robert]

one of the main edge communism have is the way the people get together to do thing

And yet, it's only the capitalists who are not laughing at you.

Spet, I think you'll succeed, but keep in mind that most guys who hit it really big fall on their asses, hard, a few times along the way. But don't let anyone sitting on the sidelines tell you you can't win. What do they know?

[RGacky3]

anyone seen american gangster? did you rmemeber the way the guy tried to keep aving a simple life despite having all that money? i wanna be like that.

OH dear oh dear indeed.

THe whole point of corporations is investment, and the whole point of investment is return, there we go.

[Schrödinger's Cat]

With a philosophy like that methinks Tom's great-great-great-great-great (x5) grand-pappie was a feudal lord. "Well, I'm doing the best I can. Sorry to you peasants." :laugh:

[danyboy27]

With a philosophy like that methinks Tom's great-great-great-great-great (x5) grand-pappie was a feudal lord. "Well, I'm doing the best I can. Sorry to you peasants." :laugh:

I dont idealize him, and i doubt he his perfect, but he inspire me, and he actually give me hope, something you guy lacked to do since i am here.

[Bud Struggle]

With a philosophy like that methinks Tom's great-great-great-great-great (x5) grand-pappie was a feudal lord. "Well, I'm doing the best I can. Sorry to you peasants." :laugh:

I am quite the scion of peasents and serfs. My ancestors were Slavs long before there were any slaves in America. :lol:

[Schrödinger's Cat]

Tom, I don't remember if I've asked you this (old age is getting to me), but is there a reason you quote that line in your signature?

[Bud Struggle]

Tom, I don't remember if I've asked you this (old age is getting to me), but is there a reason you quote that line in your signature?


It's musical.

The actual meaning of the words mean little to me as I'm not much of an economist, but I am a musician (of somewhat limited capability in performance, but graciously not so limited in enjoyment) and I found your words, "enchanting" in their rhythm and flow.

If in any way you find my quote offensive--I will remove it.

[Killfacer]

spetz, your original sentiment was good and despite what people you should carry on. PM me and we should talk about your original ideas.

[pusher robot]

OH dear oh dear indeed.

THe whole point of corporations is investment, and the whole point of investment is return, there we go.

That's totally incorrect.

There are traditional, investment-oriented for-profit corporations.

There are also cooperative, mutual-benefit corporations called "nonprofit corporations."

There are also others-benefit anti-profit corporations and these are called "charitable corporations."

All these kinds of corporations exist and can be successful, depending on your metric for "success." All a "corporation" is is a legally recognized financial organization. What it wishes to do as a financial organization, so long as it does not commit fraud, is entirely up to those who run it.

[Vendetta]

I'll withhold opinion depending on what the OP meant by corporation.

[Plagueround]

anyone seen american gangster? did you rmemeber the way the guy tried to keep aving a simple life despite having all that money? i wanna be like that.

I was heavily medicated and in bed with the flu when I saw American Gangster...but um...didn't he have all sorts of trouble with the mafia and the government, then get arrested and sent to jail for 15-20 years? I mean, even Scarface made selling coke look good if you turn the movie off after he gets married and buys a tiger, but...


I dont idealize him, and i doubt he his perfect, but he inspire me, and he actually give me hope, something you guy lacked to do since i am here.

Apparently we have inspired you somewhat if you recognize communism's potential. I won't judge you or tell you you're delusional, but becoming someone like TomK is the exception and not the rule...there is no possible way for everyone to be millionaires (except maybe in Zimbabwe, but that's different. :( ) and for every philantrophist like TomK there are a dozen, if not hundreds, if not thousands of piece of crap hoarding bastards who only care about themselves and their bank account(s).

There were times in my life when I had similar thoughts about finding ways to make capitalism play nice, but unfortunately I think that's only going to go so far. I'd much rather promote things that aim to enable and free everyone...not hope that the masters decide to be kind.

[spice756]

we could sell communsim has a corporation, but instead of having the overall goal of making money, its goal would be the help the peoples of the world.


What do you mean by corporation? A corporation goal is to make money.And what are you selling?



communist cells worldwide would organize themselve to develop social infrastructures worldwide, build social housing, making money from those cheap housing to finance other social goal such has feeding the poor and the children, educate children, having private schools owned by this Organization, special provate school that would offer education at a lower cost than the usual provate school,but that would give to the people a better education than the public school.


Where would this money come from? And even if you had billions of money and could do those things that is not communism.It sound more like charity or non profit groups.And how would you make money from social housing?

[danyboy27]

I was heavily medicated and in bed with the flu when I saw American Gangster...but um...didn't he have all sorts of trouble with the mafia and the government, then get arrested and sent to jail for 15-20 years? I mean, even Scarface made selling coke look good if you turn the movie off after he gets married and buys a tiger, but...



Apparently we have inspired you somewhat if you recognize communism's potential. I won't judge you or tell you you're delusional, but becoming someone like TomK is the exception and not the rule...there is no possible way for everyone to be millionaires (except maybe in Zimbabwe, but that's different. :( ) and for every philantrophist like TomK there are a dozen, if not hundreds, if not thousands of piece of crap hoarding bastards who only care about themselves and their bank account(s).

There were times in my life when I had similar thoughts about finding ways to make capitalism play nice, but unfortunately I think that's only going to go so far. I'd much rather promote things that aim to enable and free everyone...not hope that the masters decide to be kind.

i dont know if i will become like tomk, but i do know i want to do something to improve that society.