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Chapaev
13th September 2008, 19:05
The illegitimate regime in Poland is to be strongly condemned for this politically motivated persecution of a national hero like Jaruzelski. The ones that should be put up on trial are outright traitors like Walesa who collaborated with Poland's most vicious enemies in the CIA. To say nothing of the social and economic catastrophe Poland has endured because of how its collectively owned resources have been looted by rapacious imperialists. A regime that has served as an accomplice to genocide and war crimes in Iraq cannot legitimately try its political opponents. There should be a mass political and economic boycott of Poland and indignant demonstrations outside of the country's embassies.


http://en.rian.ru/world/20080912/116738698.html
Poland's former president, Gen. Wojciech Jaruzelski, went on trial Friday, along with other ex-communist officials, for imposing martial law in 1981 which resulted in over 90 deaths across the country.

The 85-year-old Jaruzelski, who faces 10 years in prison if found guilty, was in court to hear the formal charges of committing communist crimes, and leading "an organized criminal group of a military character" read out against him. He was formally charged in March 2006.

The other defendants include 82-year-old Czeslaw Kiszczak, the former interior minister and 80-year-old Stanislaw Kania, first secretary of the Polish united workers party. All the defendants have pleaded not guilty.

Jaruzelski was widely criticized for imposing martial law in Poland on December 13, 1981, in an attempt to smother the growing Solidarity movement led by Lech Walesa. The move led to troops being deployed on the country's streets and the mass arrest and subsequent imprisonment of activists. In 1990 after Jaruzelski retired as Polish leader, Walesa succeeded him.

Jaruzelski has argued that the introduction of martial law was the "lesser evil" and that his actions prevented an invasion of Poland by the Soviet Union.

Jaruzelski, who also served as Poland's defense minister, was involved in the military crackdown in Prague in 1968, and in the early 1970s brutally suppressed strikes by Polish workers in major coastal cities across Poland.

Peter Raina, a well-known German historian and Jaruzelski's biographer, who was in the court, said the trial was without doubt "politically motivated."

"The charges of 'communist crimes' are totally groundless. Poland has never been called the Polish Communist Republic. In accordance with the Constitution, it was the People's Republic of Poland," he said.

He added that "the Polish Constitution allowed the imposition of martial law."

Yehuda Stern
13th September 2008, 19:28
The "national hero" who butchered workers in the 1980s can burn in hell.

Kwisatz Haderach
13th September 2008, 19:47
And this is why you should never make a deal or compromise with capitalists.

Jaruzelski made a deal with them in 1989. Part of the deal was that they would leave him alone to live the rest of his life in peace. Now they betrayed him, and stabbed him in the back.

The Something
13th September 2008, 23:01
Poland's former president, Gen. Wojciech Jaruzelski, went on trial Friday, along with other ex-communist officials, for imposing martial law in 1981 which resulted in over 90 deaths across the country.

Just because you put lipstick on a pig......

sixdollarchampagne
14th September 2008, 02:21
In 1981, when General Jaruzelski, in service to his Russian masters, imposed martial law by suppressing the workers' movement Solidarnosc, one of the things that happened was that striking Polish miners were gunned down in a mine by the Polish Army. So, yes, it is a real shame that Jaruzelski, Kania & Co. apparently cannot be executed.

sdc

Chapaev
14th September 2008, 05:08
Jaruzelski did not impose martial law under Russian pressure. The Russians had rejected the option of military intervention in Poland. The decision to impose martial law was made entirely by the Polish leadership.

Nor was Solidarnosc a proletarian movement. It had ties to the CIA, the Vatican, and bourgeois proxies masquerading as trade unions such as the AFL-CIO. The Polish workers' movement was in fact united under the Central Council of Trade Unions (Centralna Rada Zwiazków Zawodowych) which organized over 12 million workers.

Chapaev
15th September 2008, 17:19
A Polish socialist Piotr Ikonowicz on Jaruzelski and the situation in Poland:



http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/15/poland.russia?showallcomments=true
Politicians, especially rightwing politicians, and especially President Kaczynski, want to rewrite history. They call it "historical policy". I hate it. They can't supply flats, healthcare, good jobs, pensions, decent wages. Instead they'll throw Jaruzelski to the mob. But nobody is buying it. Two million have already emigrated. People want a better life, not revenge.

communard resolution
19th September 2008, 20:22
Ah, there goes my good friend Velior again... always ready to defend criminals of all shades. Jaruzelski, that legendary friend of the working class who sent the masses back to work with guns in their back.


The illegitimate regime in Poland is to be strongly condemned for this politically motivated persecution of a national hero like Jaruzelski.

National hero my arse. I second Yehuda Stern: that rotten scoundrel and butcher of the working class Jaruzelski can rot in hell.

Velior, I seem to remember you wanted to keep quiet about Poland since your knowledge about it was only very basic, as you yourself admitted? I turn my back on you for five minutes and you start blowing the trumpet for the Polish 'communists' again.

communard resolution
19th September 2008, 20:28
A Polish socialist Piotr Ikonowicz on Jaruzelski and the situation in Poland:

Despite my extremely low opinion of Jaruzelski and his ilk, Ikonowicz's statement is 100% true.

EDIT: I'm can't decide who's worse: Kaczynski or Jaruzelski. The upside of the post-1989 system seems to be that Poles are now free to emigrate. Despite that, the entire post WW2 history of Poland is a rather sad one.