Truck scatters antiwar protest

[Chiak47]

True fucking AMERICAN


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Driver puts rig on sidewalk near demonstrators

By William A. Weathers
The Cincinnati Enquirer

A truck driver from South Fairmount was
arrested Monday after he drove toward a group of
anti-war protesters with his tractor-trailer rig in
the West End.

"It (the semi cab) stopped about 10 feet from the
nearest protester," Larry Schartman, one of the
about 40 people who were participating in a
"Peace in Iraq" rally, said Monday night. "Thank God nobody
got hurt."

Police charged James Watters, 49, with aggravated menacing,
inducing panic and reckless operation in the incident that
occurred about 6 p.m. on the Ezzard Charles Drive bridge over
Interstate 75.

According to the police report, an officer observed Watters
drive his truck onto the sidewalk of the pedestrian walkway
toward a large group of protestors causing them "to run in fear
of being hit."

"It was an antiwar demonstration. We were holding up signs so
the people on the interstate could see them," said Mary Ann
Reese, 46, of East Walnut Hills. "There were 30 or 40 of us
standing there holding our signs and I turned around and he
was on the sidewalk coming towards us leaning on his horn.

"The general prevailing sentiment was that some of us were
going to get hit. One person was in a wheelchair, so he really
had to scatter. It was frightening. It (the semi) did stop before
he hit anyone."

Protesters said the driver also appeared to be making an
obscene gesture.

Schartman, a 50-year-old U.S. Navy veteran who served in
Vietnam, said the demonstration had been a peaceful event
until the truck appeared.

"I heard the horn blowing," he said. "He was up on the
sidewalk. It stopped about 10 feet from the nearest protestor. It
was really peaceful until that moment."

Police officers who were nearby responded to the scene
quickly and arrested the truck driver.

"I'm a Vietnam veteran," the Mariemont resident said. "I think
I've earned the right to stand out there with other citizens and
oppose the war."

Watters was taken to the Justice Center.

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[Hampton]

So he's a "true American" becuase he disrupts peoples 1st Amendment rights?

[Zombie]

True fucking DUMBASS
just like this thread.

[Chiak47]

Zombie,I bet your higher than a kite right now.I bet you just smoked a fat spliff to get in that deep thinking mode.Cause man that post was deep.It was probably your best.Clear your mind with a good shot of 7.62x39.

[kelvin90701]

This is an interesting incident. In regards to a protesters vs soldiers determination. Soldier are willing to kill and die. Very highly motivated. Is the peace movement equally motivated? I am not asking is a peace protester willing to kill and die. The comparison between the two is apples and oranges. What I am trying to equate between the two is motivation, who has more of it?

Why? Until forces fighting for peace have more motivation that forces pushing for war, then the peace movement will always be doomed to fail.

When I measure motivation I compare this:

A soldier who throws his body on a granade is much more motivated than an actor protesting the war. The actor may want the war to end more than the soldier, but the soldier is still more motivated.

[Zombie]

Quote: from Chiak47 on 11:53 pm on Mar. 25, 2003
Zombie,I bet your higher than a kite right now.I bet you just smoked a fat spliff to get in that deep thinking mode.Cause man that post was deep.It was probably your best.Clear your mind with a good shot of 7.62x39.



So my post was deep, eh? Well good for ya! Did u expect a pat on the butt for such a deep thread?
I'm sure a little kid such as yourself wouldn't know what pot is, let alone the effects it has on thinking!!
have a good one!

[Chiak47]

I see the effect of high people everyday on my way to work.I pass 26th & California.Dope heads march in and out of that jail like they were handing out free cheese.

[synthesis]

You're totally correct, Chiak. James Watters embodies only those most wholesome of American ideals when he disrupts the Constitutional right of other Americans to assemble in the name of protesting an imperialist war.

I quiver in excitement every time a capitalist displays his hypocrisy so blatantly. It means just that much less work for me :biggrin:

[Chiak47]

driednut,Those Americans want to see the destruction of this country.He seen it,knew what they were about and acted.

I see it here-you all hate this country yet you hide behind the very same freedoms you wish death on.

Just think of me in a big fucking truck crashing on your parade.

[Chiak47]

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[Zombie]

Quote: from Chiak47 on 12:10 am on Mar. 26, 2003
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that just shows your level of deepness... chiak47

[Chiak47]

Zombie,Maybe you should ask the local goverment to give you a new video card(subsidize).There are icon's there-too lighten the mood some.

Don't purge me

[RedCeltic]

What I find most interesting about this thread is that if it was an arnarchist who threw a brick through a shop window, both of us would be calling him an idiot and a criminal, but because this bafoon can't control his rage, he's now called a "True American."

Someone sould like they are hypocritical. Stupid acts of violence and rage are just that, no matter what side of the issue you are on.

[Chiak47]

I said it before.You people are out to destroy everything we true Americans hold true to our heart.

You try to strip our religion.
You try to strip our guns.
You try to break our troops moral.
You try to get our kids pregnate at a early age
You try to give them abortions
You try to get drugs on every street corner

I can go on but you get the point.

True Americans are sick of it.Leave us alone and we will do the same for you.
Then when we get fed up you hide behine the same rights we love and will die for.

[Guest1]

God is dead
Weapons are immoral
Soldiers are murderers
Sex is a choice
Women own their bodies
Drugs are a right

[Chiak47]

gay mary,I would protect your right to say that.Only by holding the first guy that swings at your head to do it myself..
Thank you hippie.

Go smoke dope,
BTW disarm me.

[synthesis]

I would protect your right to say that.No, you wouldn't. Seriously, what the fuck? You just celebrated someone attempting to kill a group of peace protestors and you expect no one to notice your hypocrisy when you say shit like this?


I see it here-you all hate this country yet you hide behind the very same freedoms you wish death on. We hardly hide behind freedoms - can such a thing be done? - nor do we hate this country. In fact, we are far more American than you are, judging by the words of these men who have a much greater idea of what it means to be American than you do.

“This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it.”
-Abraham Lincoln

“I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
-Thomas Jefferson

“A great industrial Nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the Nation and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the world — no longer a Government of free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men.”
-Woodrow Wilson

“Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of today.”
-Theodore Roosevelt

“I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavour to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.”
-Abraham Lincoln

“The whole fabric of society will go to wrack if we really lay hands of reform on our rotten institutions. ... From top to bottom the whole system is a fraud, all of us know it, laborers and capitalists alike, and all of us are consenting parties to it.”
-Henry Adams

“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson.”
-Franklin D. Roosevelt

“The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to the point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That in its essence is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group or any controlling private power.”
-Franklin D. Roosevelt

“We can have a democratic society or we can have the concentration of great wealth in the hands of the few. We cannot have both.”
-Louis Brandeis (Supreme Court Justice 1916-39)

“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, from those who are cold and are not clothed. The world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.”
-Dwight Eisenhower


This final link that I will provide you, Chiak47, differs from the rest in that it comes from the pen of not an American president, founding father or other official figure, but from a man named John Locke - a man on whose ideals this country was founded.

“Any single man must judge for himself whether circumstances warrant obedience or resistance to the commands of the civil magistrate; we are all qualified, entitled, and morally obliged to evaluate the conduct of our rulers.

This political judgment, moreover, is not simply or primarily a right, but like self-preservation, a duty to God. As such it is a judgment that men cannot part with according to the God of Nature.

It is the first and foremost of our inalienable rights without which we can preserve no other.”




I am very interested in how you will respond to these quotes, which incontrovertibly state that those who freely make use of their first amendment rights are more American than a man who celebrates the attempted murder of those Americans.

[Chiak47]

See they were talking about over throwing it to reform a goverment they had and most there started.

Your talking about over throwing it-to change it to the exact opposite of what they had established.
My framers would have you shot for treason.
Say they wouldnt.
Thomas Jefferson shot a opponent in a duel,but listen I would love too give you a history lesson-but I don't work for free.Go read up on the subject then check back with me later.
BYE-BYE

[RedCeltic]

"You try to strip our religion."


As long as you stop trying to force your "God" on MY Kids (if I had them) and trying to influence the govt. with your religion.... FINE worship Santa Claus for all I care.

"You try to strip our guns."

This is compleate ignorance here. For one thing, most of the people I know who are in the college democrats in Albany are also in the NRA. I don't think guns should be banned... but I DO think you should get a licence to own one and have the thing regestered.

In New York State we have a problem with Deer because all the natural preditors have been killed off. So hunters are needed to thin them out.

"You try to break our troops moral."

What the heck are you talking about?

"You try to get our kids pregnate at a early age "

Yea right... you mean personally? Are you talking about Sex ed? Because I believe that Sexual education at an early age will reduce the amount of kids who get pregnant at an early age. I'm sure you are against giving out condoms in schools as well, which would reduce young pregnancies, and aids.


"You try to give them abortions "

NOBODY... thinks abortions are wonderful. But making them illegal will only cause women to be cut up by back ally butchers and coathangers. Abortions existed in the middle ages, in biblical times, and in the 50's when wealthy women could afford an aborton in a more reasonable countery, and poor women more often than not, died from abortions.

"You try to get drugs on every street corner"

They already are on every street corner.



TRUE AMERICANS QUESTION THE GOVERNMENT

[Chiak47]

but I DO think you should get a licence to own one and have the thing regestered.

Interesting.you had up to this point.

Registration?For what?The criminal's will still get weapons.The greatest mass murder in this country was caused by umm"BOXCUTTERS".
People will always seek away to destroy.
It's human nature.

No wonder commie clinton is your senator.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Criminals get their weapon illegally. That way they can't be traced. Only a stupid person would legally acquire a gun to commit a crime.

[Ghost Writer]

I can't say I would have shed a tear had one of them been killed, but that doesn't make it right.

[Disgustipated]

Quote: from Chiak47 on 2:42 am on Mar. 26, 2003

but I DO think you should get a licence to own one and have the thing regestered.

Interesting.you had up to this point.

Registration?For what?The criminal's will still get weapons.The greatest mass murder in this country was caused by umm"BOXCUTTERS".
People will always seek away to destroy.
It's human nature.

No wonder commie clinton is your senator.




The greatest mass murder in this country was the genocide committed on the indigenous Native Americans. Read some history. We even used biological warfare on them.

Nice reply to DyerMakers post too. Just about what I expected.

[synthesis]

Quote: from Chiak47 on 7:15 am on Mar. 26, 2003
See they were talking about over throwing it to reform a goverment they had and most there started.

Your talking about over throwing it-to change it to the exact opposite of what they had established.
My framers would have you shot for treason.
Say they wouldnt.
Thomas Jefferson shot a opponent in a duel,but listen I would love too give you a history lesson-but I don't work for free.Go read up on the subject then check back with me later.
BYE-BYE



Wow, you're a bigger moron than I thought. I wasn't sure if that was physically possible, but you seem to defy a lot of rules about the limits of human stupidity. Congratulations.

[Hampton]

You try to strip our religion.
You try to strip our guns.
You try to break our troops moral.
You try to get our kids pregnate at a early age
You try to give them abortions
You try to get drugs on every street corner

Why does Chiak47 remind me of that General Ripper in Dr. Strangelove? Talking about a secret communist plot to rob Americans of their "precious bodily fluids."

[RedCeltic]

Regestration of fire arms means that you can

[list]1) make sure they take and pass a safty test.
2) firearms are not sold to people with a known criminal record
3) if lost or stolen they can be traced easy. [list]

You think that because illegal fireams can't be traced that legal ones shouldn't be also? That's rubish.

but don't get me wrong, I'm not strong in the issue as I'd rather see smaller more responsible govt.

as for Clinton... she's no commie, actually she's to the right, and she voted for the war so will not be reciving votes from me and my family in the future. We recently had a protest against her a few months ago when she was in Albany with hardball.