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The Something
13th September 2008, 12:32
By Juan Forero - WASHINGTON POST
Updated: 09/13/08 6:43 AM


BOGOTA, Colombia — The United States has accused three top aides to Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez of helping Colombian guerrillas traffic in cocaine and trying to topple the Colombian government, the first time the Bush administration has publicly outlined what it calls tight links between a terrorist group and the highest echelon of Venezuela’s leftist government.
The condemnation came Friday in the form of a designation by the Treasury Department that accused former Interior Minister Ramon Rodriguez Chacin and two leading intelligence officials of helping the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia procure weapons and weaken Colombian President Alvaro Uribe’s U. S.-backed government. The United States and Europe have blacklisted the FARC, as the rebel group is known, as a terrorist organization, and it is widely reviled in this country for carrying out mass kidnappings and assassinations.
“Today’s designation exposes two senior Venezuelan government officials and one former official who armed, abetted and funded the FARC, even as it terrorized and kidnapped innocents,” Adam Szubin, director of Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control, said in a statement Friday.
Under the designation, any property the three Venezuelans own in the United States would be frozen and any American doing business with them could face criminal penalties.
But more significantly, the designation underscores how the Bush administration is prepared to escalate an ongoing conflict with Chavez, a populist who, critics say, has spent billions of dollars to help allies and radical leftist groups across Latin America. The American announcement came a day after Chavez ordered U. S. Ambassador Patrick Duddy to leave the country in 72 hours in an act of solidarity with his close ally in Bolivia, President Evo Morales, who on Wednesday expelled the American ambassador in La Paz.
Both South American leaders, among a five-nation bloc including Cuba, Nicaragua and Ecuador that are opposed to many American policies, say that the Bush administration is trying to foment unrest, topple them from power and take over their countries’ natural resources.
The United States has in the past simply denied the accusations. This time, Washington upped the ante in a way that will surely lead Chavez to retaliate. On Thursday, Chavez had warned that his country could cut oil supplies to the United States — although American officials doubt Venezuela, dependent on oil sales, would do so.

I see this is escalating far more quickly than I had anticipated. More excuses for the U.S. to try another coup and call it "nessecary". Sad state of affairs we are in, truly sad.

Can't post links yet but here is the story. The wonder of copy and paste.
buffalonews.com/nationalworld/international/story/437840.html

Abluegreen7
13th September 2008, 13:13
I thought Americas coups of Latin America were over with the end of the cold war. Somthing must be done... The United States must not be allowed to Bully Latin America. They whined about Georgia, do they think what they are doing is Ok?

BIG BROTHER
14th September 2008, 02:49
Well, this doesn't necessary have to escalate, I mean remember how the tensions use to be between Venezuela and Colombia? I think we need to observe this more carefully before making any predictions.

Harrycombs
14th September 2008, 02:56
I saw this in the paper this morning. I doubt it will amount to anything. We want their oil, so sanctions are out of the question, and they have been recently been getting support from Russia. Attacking them would be highly unlikely, and I think a coup would fail.

Abluegreen7
14th September 2008, 12:54
If they have links to the Columbian Guerillas then why is Venezuala not arming them up. :rolleyes:

Mindtoaster
14th September 2008, 18:50
If they have links to the Columbian Guerillas then why is Venezuala not arming them up. :rolleyes:

Because FARC is heavily involved in the cocaine trade and I doubt Chavez wants to associate with that

Abluegreen7
14th September 2008, 18:53
Thats another thing I dont understand about Farc why are they in the trade that is capitalist?

Comrade B
14th September 2008, 20:09
Thats another thing I dont understand about Farc why are they in the trade that is capitalist?
Have to get your gun money some how. Bank robbery might be more ethical though, however that often ends up being a cycle of getting nothing done as happened often in West Germany (Rob bank, buy guns with money, Rob bank with guns, buy guns with money, over and over).

RedHal
14th September 2008, 21:56
So the "Socialist Dictator" Chavez is now linked to the cocaine trade? Hmm wasn't there a video game that came out recently where they invaded Venezuela to oust the Drug trafficking dictactor:rolleyes:

Abluegreen7
14th September 2008, 22:03
Yes there was it was Mercanaries 2. Its upsetting how western media potrays Chavez.

bayano
16th September 2008, 03:04
Bush should like drug smugglers. they do their job better and he doesn't have to pay so much for his fix

RadioRaheem84
16th September 2008, 04:19
United States of Hypocrites....OLLIE NORTH.....US Government Aide tied to drug trafficers in Central America. Ofcourse, though no one would ever accus good old Reagan of doing anything illegal. :sneaky:

Comrade B
16th September 2008, 05:10
Ollie North promptly after buried his gold under Stan Smith's (think that is the right name) house.

The above statement was a popular culture reference, please ignore it


though no one would ever accus good old Reagan of doing anything illegal.I actually managed to get a hard core conservative to admit that Reagan was a criminal a little while ago. The guy still didn't hate Reagan because it would have made the poor fellow's eyes melt.
Americans see communism as an ultimate evil, yet few of them even know what it is, funny no?

reddevil
16th September 2008, 18:15
the united states would do well to remember their own involvement in the drug trade and its role in funding thugs, torturers and mercenaries the world over in the name of "democracy". lest we forget the rotten colombian bourgeouisse and their funding of murderous paramilitaries who have murdered more trade unionists in the past decade tham the rest of the world combined. they might also remember that the hostage the farc freed a month or so ago (i forget her name) thanked chavez personally for his intervention.

Guerrilla22
16th September 2008, 23:51
Interesting that the US is all bent out of shape over alleged connections between the Chavez administration and FARC, but kept quiet over the proven connections between the Uribe government and the AUC.

Nothing Human Is Alien
17th September 2008, 00:00
Of course. Uribe has well established ties to the rightwing paramilitaries and cocaine cartels, but that's no problem for the U.S., because he does their bidding.

FARC taxes coca growers in the territory they control, just as they tax others. Farmers in Colombia grow coca because they get a lot more for that crop than they do for growing things like coffee.

Chavez has publicly called for FARC to disarm. He says the days of armed struggle are over.