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canikickit
25th March 2003, 23:56
Dulce Et Decorum Est, by Wilfred Owen

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned out backs,
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots,
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.

Gas! GAS! Quick, boys!--An ecstasy of fumbling
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time,
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime.--
Dim through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.

In all my dreams before my helpless sight
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin,
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,--
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.

CruelVerdad
26th March 2003, 00:13
Nice, even it was kind of difficult to understand...

canikickit
26th March 2003, 01:46
It's a great poem. "Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori. ", by the way, means "It is a sweet and honerable thing to die for one's country".

Here's another (better) one:

Base Details - Siegfried Sassoon

If I were fierce, and bald, and short of breath,
I'd live with scarlet Majors at the Base,
And speed glum heroes up the line to death.
You'd see me with my puffy, petulant face,
Guzzling and gulping in the best hotel,
Reading the Roll of Honour. 'Poor young chap,'
I'd say --- 'I used to know his father well;
Yes, we've lost heavily in this last scrap.'
And when the war is done and youth stone dead,
I'd toddle safely home and die --- in bed.

Siegfried Sassoon and Wilfred Owen both fought in World War I.

(Edited by canikickit at 1:47 am on Mar. 26, 2003)

Liberty Lover
26th March 2003, 06:17
Was there a point behind this thread?

(Edited by Liberty Lover at 6:18 am on Mar. 26, 2003)

Chiak47
26th March 2003, 06:20
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honest intellectual
26th March 2003, 21:17
God, cappies, you're dumber than I thought.

canikickit, Base Details is no where near as good as Dulce Et Decorum Est! I don't like Sassoon much, he thinks he's so fuckin' clever. Owen writes beautiful, elaborate English and Dulce Et Decorum Est is his best

canikickit
26th March 2003, 21:35
HI, you're even crazier than I thought!


And speed glum heroes up the line to death.
You'd see me with my puffy, petulant face,
Guzzling and gulping in the best hotel

I prefer the subject matter of Base Details; it's great.
ah...I like them both.

Was there a point to this thread? I thought I would share some great poetry with the right winger, seeing as they can't post in the literature forum. If you're a philistine or just not a fan of (some) art, that's okay with me.