Somebody is Listening to Your Friend, Stormin Norman

[Ghost Writer]

Today, Iraqi T.V. was shut down (http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,6190144%255E1702,00.html) due to concentrated air strikes. Was the purpose of the raid to blackout our enemy's media? Probably. Should Al-Jazeera be targeted next? Certainly. I still don't understand why Iraqi satellite television is still operating normally. Knock it the f*ck out. That regime no longer has a voice in the world.

(Edited by Ghost Writer at 10:26 pm on Mar. 25, 2003)

[Pete]

And you say you support freedom of speech?

[Chiak47]

Good news...

[canikickit]

Norm is fully in favour of censorship of opposing viewpoints. Check out his comments about a new "blacklist".

Why should Al-Jazeera be taken out, because they are showing Iraqi deaths?

[Palmares]

Quote: from canikickit on 9:20 am on Mar. 26, 2003
Norm is fully in favour of censorship of opposing viewpoints. Check out his comments about a new "blacklist".

Why should Al-Jazeera be taken out, because they are showing Iraqi deaths?

I doubt the U$ would take out Al-Jazeera. It was founded by a pro-US Qatari (just happens to be the leader of Qatar).

[Ghost Writer]

And you say you support freedom of speech?

This belongs in some sort of hall of fame. The idea that the state of Iraq runs a free press has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have heard a left winger say, in all the time we have been discussing this war. The fact that you would call my opposition to one of the largest propaganda machines, guilty of terrorizing their own people, an assault on free-speech demonstrates your inability to understand such a concept. Their press is largely responsible for repression the Iraqi people suffer under.

Let your enemy operate their propaganda machine freely! Are you some kind of a moron, or something? I'm glad those who are prosecuting this war do not feel as you do, otherwise we would be dead already. Freedom of the press is something you grant your own people, so long as they are not coup plotting, undermining your country's national security, or acting in a blatant disregard for the rights to enjoy similar freedoms. Frredom of speech is something that exists among people who are willing to accept the rules of the political game and play within those boundaries, not something that should be granted to tyrants that put people in woodchippers if they disagree. Saddam's regime does not accept any rules that civilized societies agree upon. They have used their media to project images of their brazen violation of the Geneva Convention. What's more important in a time of war, the freedom of a madman to produce Orwellian propaganda, or the morale of the civilian backing of an armed incursion and the morale of the troops in the field? The answer to this question should be evident to the most uneducated observer.

If you want more on my views of the 'free Arab press', check out my latest work "Psyops, Al-Jazeera, and the American Press" (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=1895). This is not some benign political opposition group that rallies against some governmental policy. Hell, its not even the useful idiots of Saddam Hussein, which constitute the anti-war groups throughout the country. This is a regime that has killed 1.5 million Muslims in order to thwart the sort of political opposition mention earlier. This is a state that sponsors the sort of deaths brought to us on 9-11. Their regime has the most experience in the use of chemical weapons out of any country in the world. There exists a credible threat that they may use them on our troops, and our people. Like the convicted felon, they forfieted their rights when they committed their crimes. Time for them to accept their punishment.

[Ghost Writer]

Why should Al-Jazeera be taken out, because they are showing Iraqi deaths?

I have already told you why? Because:

Al-Jazeera is being used as a weapon against us. First of all, they produce the propaganda that rallies our enemies to the cause of the Islamofascists, who use their religion as a way to manipulate the sentiment in the Arab world. Al-Jazeera produces the kind of anti-Semitic rhetoric that most Arabs can agree on. In addition, they tie America to the “Jewish conspiracy”, in a successful attempt to further demonize the United States, their sworn enemy. Al-Jazeera also elevates Osama bin Laden to the level of a folk hero on the Arab Street. More recently, they have depicted Saddam Hussein, and Iraq as a victim of colonization. Furthermore, they depict America as a murdering nation, as they blame the United States for the deaths of Iraqis who have been starved to death by their own President. They seek to inflame the Mid-Eastern populace by pointing to U.S. military bases on their most sacred lands. They perpetuate the encroachment of multinational interests as a modern threat from the infidels, as they compare strip malls to the crusades. They emphasis Arab casualties in Iraq, for the purposes of creating further hostilities, in an attempt to further destabilize the region. Their main objective is to ignite the Arab world, by using inflammatory language to drum up support for Jihad.

[RedCeltic]

um... yea I actually agree with SN here for once. Iraq doesn't have free speech even with coms up.

[Xvall]

I regret to inform you, norm, that propoganda is not illegal. If you believe that Al-Jazeera should be taken out, than I will stand in full support of the head of Fox News being taken into an alley and shot. Acutally; I would probably that the head of Fox and shoot him, regardless of weather or not you think Al-Jazeera should be taken out. I hate Fox that much, Norm.