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Dr Mindbender
12th September 2008, 01:27
Is the practice of sunday business a progressive move or is it simply a ploy on the part of the liberal beourgiose to extrapolate more labour?

It could be argued that it is evidence of the christian lobby ceding socio-political influence.

Demogorgon
12th September 2008, 01:44
So long as people have several days off a week, it doesn't hugely matter which days those are. Sunday trading is of course just part of the progression of capitalism, and can't be seen as progressive, but it is not increasing exploitation except where people are having to work more hours as a result. Where people are simply working different hours it is harmless. Not to mention stopping society for Sunday always was a really silly concept anyway. It would have been great a couple of centuries back where the Sabbath was the only respite from work most workers got, religious feasts exepted, but these days there is no need for it and only those who wish to observe the Sabbath should have to go along with it.

Dr Mindbender
12th September 2008, 13:51
another point i'd like to raise is that the cultural effect of deification of the seventh day.Accepted, all workers are entitled to at least 2 days off, i cant argue with that. From the point of view of someone requiring services, the 'sabbath' lobby have made this wholely more difficult since for the most part, both government and private institutions that run on the 5 day basis which span essential services such health care. For example, if i get sick on a saturday or sunday theres never a doctor's surgery or a pharmacy available to cash my prescription so it may be a case of ''tough shit, you have to wait until monday for the capitalist system to wake up again''. Everyone should be able to access such essentials not just freely, but whenever needed, including weekends.

Bud Struggle
12th September 2008, 15:05
Accepted, all workers are entitled to at least 2 days off, i cant argue with that..

I don't see why. That's just some sort of cultural norm. I don't see "entiltled" as being the right word.

Just being picky, I guess--but wht two days?

Dr Mindbender
12th September 2008, 15:09
I don't see why. That's just some sort of cultural norm. I don't see "entiltled" as being the right word.

Just being picky, I guess--but wht two days?

people have families. They have children to nurture, and spend time with.When you expect workers to jump at your every whim you are also depriving youngsters of their parents. I think Marx put it best when he referred to ''the beourgiose claptrap'' about espousing family values in one hand and in the other co-ercing workers into long work routines removed from their relatives.