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Xvall
24th March 2003, 23:48
Brawl erupts after song played at rodeo
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Felix Fanaselle says he and another rodeo patron got into a fight during the playing of Lee Greenwood's Proud to be an American.
By Elma Barrera
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(3/14/03) — Talk of war with Iraq has sparked an atmosphere of tension and anxiety. And it may be to blame for a brawl that broke out at the rodeo Thursday night.
ABC-13 report
With some 15,000 to 20,000 folks at the rodeo drinking beer and having fun, things can get a little out of hand at times. It happened when a tape of Lee Greenwood's song Proud To Be An American was playing. Some rodeo fans were standing and others were sitting down. Felix Fanaselle and his buddies chose to remain seated.
"This guy behind us starts yelling at us (because) we're not standing up," said Fanaselle. "He starts cussing at us, telling us to go back to Iraq."
The 16-year-old said the man seated behind him started spitting at him and spilling his beer on him and his friends.
"By the end of the song, he pulled my ear. I got up. He pushed me. I pushed him," said Felix. "He punched me in my face. I got him off me."
When the dust settled, Fanaselle had been handcuffed and released. He and John McCambridge were cited for "mutual combat" and fighting in public. That's a $200 fine. Fanaselle's lawyer says you don't have to stand for a country and western song.
"I guess next time, he'll think maybe we need to stand for the Okie From Muscogee," said attorney Clayton Rawlings. "This is phony patriotism. This man needs to be ashamed of himself for what he did."
Rawlings says he and the Fanaselle family will give McCambridge a chance to make this right without going to court. The family says the biggest insult was McCambridge telling Fanaselle to go back to Iraq. Fanaselle is half Hispanic and half Italian.
"He was born in this country and who is this clown to tell him to go back where he came from? He came from Houston, Texas, so he is where he came from," said Rawlings.
Rawlings says if the citation isn't dismissed after witnesses testify, they'll be going to court with accusations of assault and battery, mental anguish and lawyer's fees. Eyewitness news tried to contact John McCambridge in Austin for his side of the story, but so far there's been no response.
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Just thought this was interesting. I am hoping that the majority of the patriotic pro-war people are not like this.
(Edited by Drake Dracoli at 11:55 pm on Mar. 24, 2003)
Chiak47
25th March 2003, 00:00
He has no right to wear that shirt.
Fake ass punk.I bet if the US liberated his sorry ass he would have stood up.
Hampton
25th March 2003, 00:06
I thought wearing whatever shirt you wanted to was part of the greatness of america.
Chiak47
25th March 2003, 00:08
I am willing to bet all he is not a Marine.
Men died for that right-he is a fake.
Next lie please.
Pete
25th March 2003, 00:14
Quote: from Chiak47 on 7:00 pm on Mar. 24, 2003
He has no right to wear that shirt.
Fake ass punk.I bet if the US liberated his sorry ass he would have stood up.
Hypocrite.
Chiak47
25th March 2003, 00:17
liar.
Pete
25th March 2003, 00:22
How am I a liar?
By your comments you prove yourself a hypocrite.
Chiak47
25th March 2003, 00:28
I can tell you this from a son and a grandson of US Marines.
Marines love this country with all thier heart.My dad and grandpa stand tall and proud to show thier love to this country.
This guy is not a Marine.
So fuck off red
Chiak47
25th March 2003, 00:35
BTW what the fuck did he expect at a RODEO.Nothing but rich cappies run those.
Mostly rich ranchers and oil men.
Thats like a cappie wearing a che shirt going to a S&M shop to spout anti fag shit and wonder why he was raped.
Eastside Revolt
25th March 2003, 00:42
Every time I go to a hockey game I almost get into a scrap because I refuse to stand for the yankee anthem.
Pete
25th March 2003, 00:54
You did not prove me a liar still, but I did not expect that.
redstar2000
25th March 2003, 00:55
Drake, you say that you hope the "majority of the patriotic pro-war people are not like this."
There's no way to tell for sure, of course, but I think the comments by the pro-war people on this board suggest that they'd like to do this kind of shit...if they had the opportunity and the courage.
I keep telling people that there are a huge number of Americans who have never read a speech by Mussolini or Hitler, have never even seen a Nazi flag, couldn't find Germany or Italy on a map of Europe...and yet by any meaningful definition of the word are fascists.
"The strong should stomp the ass of the weak"...that's the fascist mentality, whether it's Donald Rumsfeld's latest press conference or the morons that pollute this site.
Some are more rabid than others, of course. Some would just try to beat you up...others would murder you in cold blood...others would torture you to death.
None of them would give you a big wet kiss!
:cool:
Xvall
25th March 2003, 01:26
Chiak47:
He has no right to wear that shirt.
Really? Will the shirt police arrest him on shirt-wearing charges?
Fake ass punk. I bet if the US liberated his sorry ass he would have stood up.
He probably is a fake ass punk. There are a lot of fake ass punks these days. I see pleanty of kids wearing Marine/Military shirts that have no intention of joining the Armed Forces. However, I don't think it is right to point him out exclusively.
I am willing to bet all he is not a Marine.
You are probably right. He probably isn't a Marine. If he was, he would be over in the gulf right now.
Next lie please.
Not to sound rude; but please refrain from saying that every time you post. If nececarry, put it in your signature.
BTW what the fuck did he expect at a RODEO.Nothing but rich cappies run those. Mostly rich ranchers and oil men. Thats like a cappie wearing a che shirt going to a S&M shop to spout anti fag shit and wonder why he was raped.
I know what you are saying, but I don't think that the man deserved what happened to him. He is most certainly not an anti-american of any sort; he probably isn't even a leftist. He may be apolitical for all we know. He simply wanted to remain seated. Maybe he just doesn't feel like standing up. It is a person's right to remain seated, no? It isn't even like it was the national anthem or anything; it's not like he started burning American flags in front of everyone. He simply made the decicion to remain seated while a certain song was playing; a lot of people did the same thing. According to the report, several people remained seated. By the looks of the individual, he seems to apear slightly arabic; so some idiot probably thought it would be a good idea to start crap, or thought that because of the recent events that all people of arabic ethnicity should be forced to confrom to the same beliefs as everyone else. Like I said. He didn't say, "Fuck off yank!" or burn a flag. He simply decided to sit down while a tape is playing. If that is something illegal; there is something terribly wrong with this country.
redstar2000:
There's no way to tell for sure, of course, but I think the comments by the pro-war people on this board suggest that they'd like to do this kind of shit...if they had the opportunity and the courage.
Unfortunately, there are probably a lot of people like that. However, I do not think that most of the people on the board feel the same. Although there are a few arbitrarily violent 'patriots' on this board; I am under the impression that most of the political right-wingers (CI, DC, Etc.) are civilized enough to refrain from starting barfights because someone decides to sit down during a song. Overall though; yeah, you are right. There are too many people like that. I don't know if it's just the violence on television or some crap, but it needs to go as soon as possible.
Mazdak
25th March 2003, 01:44
What is a liar? Define Liar. If i Lied about a lie, would i be telling the truth, or lying further?
Chiak47
25th March 2003, 01:47
Mazdak that made more sence too me than most of the drivel on this board.
Mine included..
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(Edited by Chiak47 at 1:48 am on Mar. 25, 2003)
Eastside Revolt
25th March 2003, 01:53
Quote: from Chiak47 on 1:47 am on Mar. 25, 2003
Mazdak that made more sence too me than most of the drivel on this board.
Mine included..
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(Edited by Chiak47 at 1:48 am on Mar. 25, 2003)
That's 'cause your quite alike.
Mazdak
25th March 2003, 02:10
Define similarity. Congruence is sameness, yet similarity represents sameness to a lesser degree. Which do you mean?
Umoja
25th March 2003, 02:13
Mazdak= Ahru Mazda worship him.
Seriously though, Chiak, maybe he like many marines loves the country enough, not to support the way it's currently being run. Maybe he sees our country falling from it's greatness, and seeks to protest an administration that's against our countries greatness. Ever looked out that eye?
Mazdak
25th March 2003, 02:16
Uh oh, the Quaker wanker is back. I think i made myself clear. Mazdak is not Mazda.
Dont mind the wanker thing. I just had to say it.
Chiak47
25th March 2003, 02:24
Umoja-i grew up in a Marine household.I doubt he is a Marine against the war when Marine's are in harms way.
Xvall
25th March 2003, 02:27
But that is the whole reason why a Marine would be against the war; because they are in harms way. If the war is called off then he would not have to worry about his other Marine friends getting killed; they would no longer be at risk.
Chiak47
25th March 2003, 02:30
You have to understand a Marine's mindset.It's brutal and it would hurt alot of people's feelings if I let them in on it.
I was never a Marine but living with my dad as a kid and my grandpa as a teen I came to understand it after years of fighting it.
(Edited by Chiak47 at 2:30 am on Mar. 25, 2003)
Umoja
25th March 2003, 03:01
Yes! The immortal Quaker Wanker is back, and has read the Zend Avestas and I shall now worship you properly. I just need to set you on fire, oh divine fire of Mazda.
Mazdak
25th March 2003, 03:04
Excellent. The Temples of Fire. Rock on.
Umoja
25th March 2003, 12:32
I'm going to get quotes from the Zend Avestas and add them to my profile just to honor you, the great Mazda.
Disgustipated
25th March 2003, 14:24
Why has this become a thread about the kid's tee shirt? The issue here is that the citizen was attacked unprovoked.
Even the cappies here should be worried about that. The song being played was not the national anthem. Whats the problem? Is he protected by the Constitution or isn't he? Is he not because you think he's a poser marine? Maybe his dad or brother is a marine. You know nothing about him other than he was attacked unprovoked.
Maybe you'll get attacked for looking French, or German, or Chinese, or Russian. Is that your definiition of freedom? That it's okay to attack people with differing ideologies or that look different?
Get your priorities straight.
Atlas Shrugged
25th March 2003, 16:03
[quote]Quote: from redstar2000 on 6:55 am on Mar. 25, 2003
Drake, you say that you hope the "majority of the patriotic pro-war people are not like this."
There's no way to tell for sure, of course, but I think the comments by the pro-war people on this board suggest that they'd like to do this kind of shit...if they had the opportunity and the courage.
I keep telling people that there are a huge number of Americans who have never read a speech by Mussolini or Hitler, have never even seen a Nazi flag, couldn't find Germany or Italy on a map of Europe...and yet by any meaningful definition of the word are fascists.
^^^A huge number of Americans huh? That is the stupidest thing I have ever read.
Zombie
25th March 2003, 16:17
A huge number of Americans huh? That is the stupidest thing I have ever read
lol, cos we all know you speak for the mass don't u. oh you big boy you.
Non-Sectarian Bastard!
25th March 2003, 16:50
Ahh, the good old US marines, who can't handle any fight without "airsupport", withother words they are just watching while the fighter pilots do all the work.
But they are not complete loosers, they were great targets when the Spetsnaz units tested the Dragunoff sniper in Vietnam on them.
Moskitto
25th March 2003, 16:54
so if a guy thinks that a particular patriotic song is pretty shit musically it's ok to beat him up? that's like little stupid trendy kids going round beating up people who see shit music like garage as what it is, shit.
gee, i never knew how much US patriots resembled stupid little trendy kids.
Moondog
25th March 2003, 21:33
My sis lives on a military base in Colorado. Every day at 5 pm on military bases they play the national anthem, and no matter what your doing you have to stop. A few months ago I was walking out of the bx (base exchange) and I saw a woman with 3 young children walking to her car to put away her groceries. The anthem came on and she just kept going to the car because it was raining really hard. I was shocked when some old guy walked up and started yelling in her face about respect for the military and the country and such. I felt bad for this lady but what can you do?
Chiak47
25th March 2003, 21:36
Ahh, the good old US marines, who can't handle any fight without "airsupport", withother words they are just watching while the fighter pilots do all the work.
But they are not complete loosers, they were great targets when the Spetsnaz units tested the Dragunoff sniper in Vietnam on them.
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http://www.gnt.net/~jrube/text/puller.htm
Lieutenant General Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller was a colorful veteran of the Korean War, four World War II campaigns, and expeditionary service in China, Nicaragua, and Haiti. He was the only Marine to win the Navy Cross five times for heroism and gallantry in combat.
A Marine officer and enlisted man for 37 years, General Puller served at sea or overseas for all but ten of those years, including a hitch as commander of the "Horse Marines" in China. Excluding medals from foreign governments, he won a total of 14 personal decorations in combat, plus a long list of campaign medals, unit citation ribbons and other awards. In addition to the Navy Crosses, the highest honor the Navy can bestow, he holds its Army equivalent, the Distinguished Service Cross.
Born 26 June 1898, at West Point, Virginia, the general attended Virginia Military Institute until enlisting in the Marine Corps in August 1918. He was appointed a Marine Reserve second lieutenant 16 June 1919, but due to force reductions after World War I, was placed on inactive duty ten days later. He rejoined the Marines as an enlisted man to serve with the Gendarmerie d'Haiti, a military force in that country under a treaty with the United States. Most of its officers were U. S. Marines, while its enlisted personnel were Haitians.
After almost five years in Haiti, where he saw frequent action against the Caco rebels, Puller returned in March 1924 to the United States. He was commissioned a Marine second lieutenant that same month, and during the next two years, served at the Marine Barracks, Norfolk, Virginia, completed the Basic School at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and served with the 10th Marine Regiment at Quantico, Virginia.
In July of 1926, Puller embarked for a two-year tour of duty at the Marine Barracks, Pearl Harbor. Returning in June 1928, he served in San Diego, California, until he joined the Nicaraguan National Guard Detachment that December. After winning his first Navy Cross in Nicaragua, he returned to the United States in July 1931 to enter the Company Officers Course at the Army Infantry School, Fort Benning, Georgia. He completed the course in June 1932 and returned to Nicaragua the following month to begin the tour of duty that brought him a second Navy Cross.
In January 1933, Puller left Nicaragua for the United States. A month later he sailed from San Francisco to join the Marine Detachment of the American Legation at Peiping, China. There, in addition to other duties, he commanded the famed "Horse Marines." Without coming back to the United States, he began a tour of sea duty in USS AUGUSTA of the Asiatic Fleet. In June 1936 he returned to the United States to become an instructor in the Basic School at Philadelphia. He left there in May 1939 to serve another year as commander of the AUGUSTA's Marine Detachment, and from that cruiser, joined the 4th Marine Regiment at Shanghai, China, in May 1940.
After serving as a battalion executive and commanding officer with the 4th Marines, Puller sailed for the United States in August 1941. In September, he took command of the 1st Battalion, 7th Marines, 1st Marine Division, at Camp Lejeune. That Regiment was detached from the 1st Division in March 1942 and the following month, as part of the 3rd Marine Brigade, sailed for the Pacific theater. The 7th Regiment rejoined the 1st Marine Division in September 1942, and Puller, still commanding its 1st Battalion, went on to win his third Navy Cross at Guadalcanal.
The action that brought him that medal occurred on the night of October 24-25 1942. For a desperate three hours his battalion, stretched over a mile-long front, was the only defense between vital Henderson Airfield and a regiment of seasoned Japanese troops. In pouring jungle rain the Japanese smashed repeatedly at his thin line, as General Puller moved up and down its length to encourage his men and direct the defense. After reinforcements arrived, he commanded the augmented force until late the next afternoon. The defending Marines suffered less than 70 casualties in the engagement while 1400 of the enemy were killed and 17 truckloads of Japanese equipment were recovered by the Americans.
After Guadalcanal, Puller became executive officer of the 7th Marines. He was fighting in that capacity when he won his fourth Navy Cross at Cape Gloucester in January 1944. There, when the commanders of the two battalions were wounded, he took over their units and moved through heavy machine-gun and mortar fire to reorganize them for attack, then led them in taking a strongly fortified enemy position.
In February 1944, Puller took command of the 1st Marines at Cape Gloucester. After leading that regiment for the remainder of the campaign, he sailed with it for the Russell Islands in April 1944. He went on to command it at Peleliu in September and October 1944. He returned to the United States in November 1944, named executive officer of the Infantry Training Regiment at Camp Lejeune in January 1945, and took command of that regiment the next month.
In August 1946, Puller became Director of the 8th Marine Corps Reserve District, with headquarters at New Orleans, Louisiana. After that assignment, he commanded the Marine Barracks at Pearl Harbor until August 1950, when he arrived at Camp Pendleton, California, to re-establish and take command of the 1st Marines, the same regiment he had led at Cape Gloucester and Peleliu.
Landing with the 1st Marines at Inchon, Korea, in September 1950, he continued to head that regiment until January 1951, when he was promoted to brigadier general and named Assistant Commander of the 1st Marine Division. That May he returned to Camp Pendleton to command the newly reactivated 3rd Marine Division in January 1952. After that, he was assistant at division commander until he took over the Troop Training Unit, Pacific, at Coronado, California, that June. He was promoted to major general in September 1953, and in July 1954, assumed command of the 2nd Marine Division at Camp Lejeune. Despite his illness, he retained that command until February 1955, when he was appointed Deputy Camp Commander. He served in that capacity until August, when he entered the U. S. Naval Hospital at Camp Lejeune prior to retirement.
In 1966, General Puller requested to return to active duty to serve in Vietnam, but was turned down because of his age. He died 11 October 1971 in Hampton, Virginia, after a long illness. He was 73.
This mans cat had more balls than you-fag.Anytime your in Chicago e-mail me and we will talk some.BTW-I'm sure the Drag was tested on non-conformers in the USSR.
(Edited by Chiak47 at 9:39 pm on Mar. 25, 2003)
truthaddict11
25th March 2003, 22:11
WHAT THE FUCK! PEOPLE IN THIS THREAD ARE MORE CONCERNED OVER A GODDAMN SHIRT, THEN THAT A MAN WAS ATTACKED BY A RACIST! (rant over)
If someone wears an LAPD,NYPD or another Police shirt does that make them a "fake ass punk"? This forum pisses me off more and more, flamming cappie assholes
Chiak47
25th March 2003, 22:13
The point is that punk does not have the respect to stand up for the Marines in harms way but he has the balls to wear their shirt.
Chiak47
25th March 2003, 22:15
Moondog it's PX-post exchange.Anyways good show old man.
Without the military we would have any freedoms-cause punk commie dopeheads (such as the ones here) would chew them up and spit them out.
Disgustipated
25th March 2003, 22:37
Quote: from Chiak47 on 5:13 pm on Mar. 25, 2003
The point is that punk does not have the respect to stand up for the Marines in harms way but he has the balls to wear their shirt.
WTF are you talking about? What the hell does this have to do with some kid not standing up for a shit country western song with a bunch of rednecks?
Chiak47
25th March 2003, 22:45
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data/500/18415WWPD.jpg
Disgustipated
25th March 2003, 22:53
Dude....you've lost it.
Chiak47
25th March 2003, 22:54
WWPD=What Would Patton Do..
He would have slapped the shit out of that yellow belly.
Xvall
25th March 2003, 23:23
Atlas Shrugged:
"Can't close my eyes because all I see is terror, I hate the man in the mirror, because his reflection makes the pain turn realer." - Makaveli
Not to dissapoint you or 'Makaveli', but realer is not a word.
Chiak47:
Lieutenant General Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller was a colorful veteran of the Korean War, four World War II campaigns, and expeditionary service in China, Nicaragua, and Haiti. He was the only Marine to win the Navy Cross five times for heroism and gallantry in combat.
That's nice that he got some chunks of metal to represent his heroism and gallantry for fighting poorly armed natives in small Latin-American countries and all; but I don't see what any of this idiot's metal chunks has to do with the fact that a United States citizen was unlawfully attacked for not standing during some stupid song.
In 1966, General Puller requested to return to active duty to serve in Vietnam,
That's cute; that he wanted to kill natives in Indochina too.
but was turned down because of his age.
Thank god!
He died 11 October 1971 in Hampton, Virginia, after a long illness. He was 73.
Woo-Hoo! Yes! I most certainly am trying to piss you off; by the look of your face, it is working!
This mans cat had more balls than you-fag.
I don't care about his cat (Whatever the hell that means) and am unsure what strange disease causes a person to grow more than two testicles. This may have contributed to the amount of testosterone that was no doubt flowing through his bloodstream throughout the period of time that he was valliantly shooting peasants. This is probably why he died before eighty.
Anytime your in Chicago e-mail me and we will talk some.
I live right near Chicago. However, I do not want to e-mail you; I do not want to 'talk' either. We can talk here.
BTW-I'm sure the Drag was tested on non-conformers in the USSR.
That's right. All dissident in the Soviet Union was smashed! That's why there were some people cheering at the collapse of the Berlin Wall.
The point is that punk does not have the respect to stand up for the Marines in harms way but he has the balls to wear their shirt.
No; point is that for the past two days you've been talking out of your ass about 'punks' with 'no respect' and jumping to crazy conclusions about people that you never have, and most likely never will, meet. The point is that an American was assulted for not conforming to the standards of some drunken republiklan rodeo. I don't care if the man was burning flags. It is all within his rights; and no one should be attacked for not standing during a damned song. Stand up for the Marines in harms way? What the fuck are you talking about!? It was a bloody song! It's not like someone took the microphone and said 'Everyone who doesn't want the Marines to die, Stand up!'; they played a silly song written by some silly man years ago! I know if you heard that some guy in Cuba got the crap beat out of him for not saluting the Cuban Flag that you would be pretty pissed!
Moondog it's PX-post exchange.Anyways good show old man.
That's right kids. I don't care if it's raining fire outside; you had better stop whatever you're doing when they play the National Anthem! Driving an ambulance? The Anthem is on! You can wait!
Without the military we would have any freedoms-cause punk commie dopeheads (such as the ones here) would chew them up and spit them out.
That's right. Without people to restrict our freedoms and keep us in check, us evil commie punk dopeheads will totally ruin it for everyone. Remember. Martial Law is a freedom!
WWPD=What Would Patton Do..
Shoot villagers. What's that? You don't like my crazy alligations? I don't like yours either! Cut it out!
He would have slapped the shit out of that yellow belly.
Patton was kinda fat. I don't think he could chase us down.
Chiak47
25th March 2003, 23:31
Drake is there not some improvershed people that need you helping hand right now?
Why turn against this great country.
Chesty fought many a evil ideas-yet you disgrace him by being an American.
Give up your citizenship and move where you would be wanted.
WWPD?
Pete
25th March 2003, 23:45
Chiak, how come whenever you are presented with logic you return it with flames? You do not understand the value of debate, or you would not have made teh comments you just did about Drake. It appears to me that you are sitting in your chair trying to hide your eyes from what you are reading, and then reply with nonsense.
Chiak47
25th March 2003, 23:55
Pete? you still with us pete?
canikickit
26th March 2003, 00:06
Stop spamming, Chiak47.
Moondog
26th March 2003, 00:06
Chiak, px is army, bx is air force. But it would be easier to call them both by the same name.
Chiak47
26th March 2003, 00:12
moondog I was not aware of that thanks for the correction.Just Legs in my family.
getkicked-stop trolling me.
CruelVerdad
26th March 2003, 00:23
"By the end of the song, he pulled my ear. I got up. He pushed me. I pushed him," said Felix. "He punched me in my face. I got him off me."
To an agression you get more agression back!
Chiak47
26th March 2003, 01:07
Crueluseofsperm....I agree...
Just Joe
26th March 2003, 01:35
i actually find Chiak47 quite funny. in an annoying, unfunny kinda way.
Chiak47
26th March 2003, 01:44
JustJoe watch what you say.People here are taking lists and if that day comes when they check them your remarks will be noted and you will be purged.
Hopefully for your sake it will be fast in the back of the head.I pray lime will not be used so your family can ID you and they can call me too search for your killers.
thank you for your support...
Just Joe
26th March 2003, 01:47
yeah. i don't know, but for some reason this responce:
"Crueluseofsperm....I agree... "
made me laugh progressivly more each time i read it.
Disgustipated
26th March 2003, 12:52
No....whats really funny is this bit of twaddle....
http://www.ak-47.net/
hahahahahahahahaha
Zombie
26th March 2003, 13:19
"Limited Edition AK will be a limited to a small series, highly detailed, lots of options and one of a kind."
i hope they include Air Conditionning and Power Steering with that... lol
Non-Sectarian Bastard!
26th March 2003, 16:33
Quote: from Chiak47 on 9:36 pm on Mar. 25, 2003
Ahh, the good old US marines, who can't handle any fight without "airsupport", withother words they are just watching while the fighter pilots do all the work.
But they are not complete loosers, they were great targets when the Spetsnaz units tested the Dragunoff sniper in Vietnam on them.
http://www.gnt.net/~jrube/images/chesty.jpg
http://www.gnt.net/~jrube/text/puller.htm
Lieutenant General Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller was a colorful veteran of the Korean War, four World War II campaigns, and expeditionary service in China, Nicaragua, and Haiti. He was the only Marine to win the Navy Cross five times for heroism and gallantry in combat.
A Marine officer and enlisted man for 37 years, General Puller served at sea or overseas for all but ten of those years, including a hitch as commander of the "Horse Marines" in China. Excluding medals from foreign governments, he won a total of 14 personal decorations in combat, plus a long list of campaign medals, unit citation ribbons and other awards. In addition to the Navy Crosses, the highest honor the Navy can bestow, he holds its Army equivalent, the Distinguished Service Cross.
Born 26 June 1898, at West Point, Virginia, the general attended Virginia Military Institute until enlisting in the Marine Corps in August 1918. He was appointed a Marine Reserve second lieutenant 16 June 1919, but due to force reductions after World War I, was placed on inactive duty ten days later. He rejoined the Marines as an enlisted man to serve with the Gendarmerie d'Haiti, a military force in that country under a treaty with the United States. Most of its officers were U. S. Marines, while its enlisted personnel were Haitians.
After almost five years in Haiti, where he saw frequent action against the Caco rebels, Puller returned in March 1924 to the United States. He was commissioned a Marine second lieutenant that same month, and during the next two years, served at the Marine Barracks, Norfolk, Virginia, completed the Basic School at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and served with the 10th Marine Regiment at Quantico, Virginia.
In July of 1926, Puller embarked for a two-year tour of duty at the Marine Barracks, Pearl Harbor. Returning in June 1928, he served in San Diego, California, until he joined the Nicaraguan National Guard Detachment that December. After winning his first Navy Cross in Nicaragua, he returned to the United States in July 1931 to enter the Company Officers Course at the Army Infantry School, Fort Benning, Georgia. He completed the course in June 1932 and returned to Nicaragua the following month to begin the tour of duty that brought him a second Navy Cross.
In January 1933, Puller left Nicaragua for the United States. A month later he sailed from San Francisco to join the Marine Detachment of the American Legation at Peiping, China. There, in addition to other duties, he commanded the famed "Horse Marines." Without coming back to the United States, he began a tour of sea duty in USS AUGUSTA of the Asiatic Fleet. In June 1936 he returned to the United States to become an instructor in the Basic School at Philadelphia. He left there in May 1939 to serve another year as commander of the AUGUSTA's Marine Detachment, and from that cruiser, joined the 4th Marine Regiment at Shanghai, China, in May 1940.
After serving as a battalion executive and commanding officer with the 4th Marines, Puller sailed for the United States in August 1941. In September, he took command of the 1st Battalion, 7th Marines, 1st Marine Division, at Camp Lejeune. That Regiment was detached from the 1st Division in March 1942 and the following month, as part of the 3rd Marine Brigade, sailed for the Pacific theater. The 7th Regiment rejoined the 1st Marine Division in September 1942, and Puller, still commanding its 1st Battalion, went on to win his third Navy Cross at Guadalcanal.
The action that brought him that medal occurred on the night of October 24-25 1942. For a desperate three hours his battalion, stretched over a mile-long front, was the only defense between vital Henderson Airfield and a regiment of seasoned Japanese troops. In pouring jungle rain the Japanese smashed repeatedly at his thin line, as General Puller moved up and down its length to encourage his men and direct the defense. After reinforcements arrived, he commanded the augmented force until late the next afternoon. The defending Marines suffered less than 70 casualties in the engagement while 1400 of the enemy were killed and 17 truckloads of Japanese equipment were recovered by the Americans.
After Guadalcanal, Puller became executive officer of the 7th Marines. He was fighting in that capacity when he won his fourth Navy Cross at Cape Gloucester in January 1944. There, when the commanders of the two battalions were wounded, he took over their units and moved through heavy machine-gun and mortar fire to reorganize them for attack, then led them in taking a strongly fortified enemy position.
In February 1944, Puller took command of the 1st Marines at Cape Gloucester. After leading that regiment for the remainder of the campaign, he sailed with it for the Russell Islands in April 1944. He went on to command it at Peleliu in September and October 1944. He returned to the United States in November 1944, named executive officer of the Infantry Training Regiment at Camp Lejeune in January 1945, and took command of that regiment the next month.
In August 1946, Puller became Director of the 8th Marine Corps Reserve District, with headquarters at New Orleans, Louisiana. After that assignment, he commanded the Marine Barracks at Pearl Harbor until August 1950, when he arrived at Camp Pendleton, California, to re-establish and take command of the 1st Marines, the same regiment he had led at Cape Gloucester and Peleliu.
Landing with the 1st Marines at Inchon, Korea, in September 1950, he continued to head that regiment until January 1951, when he was promoted to brigadier general and named Assistant Commander of the 1st Marine Division. That May he returned to Camp Pendleton to command the newly reactivated 3rd Marine Division in January 1952. After that, he was assistant at division commander until he took over the Troop Training Unit, Pacific, at Coronado, California, that June. He was promoted to major general in September 1953, and in July 1954, assumed command of the 2nd Marine Division at Camp Lejeune. Despite his illness, he retained that command until February 1955, when he was appointed Deputy Camp Commander. He served in that capacity until August, when he entered the U. S. Naval Hospital at Camp Lejeune prior to retirement.
In 1966, General Puller requested to return to active duty to serve in Vietnam, but was turned down because of his age. He died 11 October 1971 in Hampton, Virginia, after a long illness. He was 73.
This mans cat had more balls than you-fag.Anytime your in Chicago e-mail me and we will talk some.BTW-I'm sure the Drag was tested on non-conformers in the USSR.
(Edited by Chiak47 at 9:39 pm on Mar. 25, 2003)
WTF do I need this biography for?
Proof that they are people who have no life and to fill up the gap in their lives, they just go "liberating" some people with bombs, m-16's and airstrikes?
And yes, Spetsnaz units were active in Vietnam, some of them carried the new snipergun, Dragunoff, with them to test in action.
The test proofed to be very succesfully, many US marines suckers catched the shiny 7.62 mm bullets of the Dragunoff.
Non-Sectarian Bastard!
26th March 2003, 16:41
BTW: AK-47.net is a cool site, except the commercialing and propagandizing to connect Saddam Hussain's never proofen link with Al'Qaida, however the US did train mister Osama in the 1980's.
How come an US nationalistic captalist adores a weapon made to kill captalists in the name of communism.
Shouldn't you make M-16.net or something?
RedCeltic
26th March 2003, 16:55
Well... this post relates WAYYYYYYYYYYYYback to the first page... sorry but I don't have time to read all of this... however a comment was made about the wearing of a USMC T-Shirt, while being against military action.
Personally, I see nothing wrong with supporting the troops, but not suporting the war. The troops are doing their job, it's the justification for the war, and what the aftermath will bring that is the problem.
I myself served in the US Navy, and I will not let some screwball crack pot gun nut flag waving hypocritical republican tell me that I should be pro-war because I'm a vet.
I also will not stand for anti-war demostrators trying to tell me that I should be ashamed to be a vet. Because I'm not.
as for the USMC... jarheads are over rated anyway. I don't know why it's fashionable to wear that stuff, nobody is going to think a skiny punk kid is a marine.
And... to the origional topic... They where not playing the national anthem, they where playing a song. But even if it was the national anthem, I've been to high school football games where people didn't stand for it, and no one gave a shit.
Serving time in the military has given me a fond respect for freedom of choice.
Chiak47
26th March 2003, 19:52
as for the USMC... jarheads are over rated anyway. I don't know why it's fashionable to wear that stuff, nobody is going to think a skiny punk kid is a marine.
Red,
Good point.
BTW remember
The Marines are the mens department of the Navy.
Thank you for your service Red.
Now get your head out of your ass and flip parties.
I'm sorry the party I belong too does not have free handout.I'm sorry we want to stop evil before evil spreads.
Hell I can get you a button though.
Thank you Red,
From a Gulag In Chicago
Chiak47
27th March 2003, 06:07
http://www.spbr.com/1999/Savannah,%20Ga.%20Feb.%2099/Savannah%20-Fri%20-more.-more/Opening%20Ceremonies%20-American%20Flag-Brent%20Young.jpg
Hodgo
27th March 2003, 12:48
Chiak, you've convinced me that you're utterly fucked in the head. The topics about a kid who got beat up for refusing to stand for a country western song, and you've done all you can to shift the topic, first by talking about the kids T-SHIRT, then posting stupid, irrelevent shit, first a biography of a dude that liked to kill peasants, then a picture of the guy, and now a picture of a cowboy riding a horse carrying a fucking American flag. What the fuck has that shit got to do with the topic at hand? "Oh, you think you're so good with your "rational debate" and your "facts", well, I can beat that, I've got a picture of a dude riding a horse and carrying a flag!".
You call us commie dopeheads, but it seems like you're on some way heavier shit than any of us.
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