Cumannach
9th September 2008, 12:54
Maybe someone can help me with this.
I'm trying to reconcile Marx's position on Free Trade, definitvely expressed in his famous speech about the repeal of the corn laws, and the central tenet of marxism, which is that, the urban proletariat is the first and only class in history capable of overthrowing the ruling class and instituting majority rule.
Now as I understand it, Marx repeatedly and coherently regarded capitalism as progressive, insomuch as it gave birth to the first class of people capable of succesful revolution and capable of establishing socialism.
Next, although it is contrary to the teaching of the 'Austrian school of Economics' and others of their ilke, common sense tells us that, in order for a country to develop industry, it must not have to compete for it's own market with a foreign industry, long established and far advanced compared to the starting up domestic industry. This obvious fact is brilliantly expounded upon and driven home by the writings of for example, Friedrich List, 19th century German economist (whose writings are online), and more recently Ha Joon Chang. Therefore the development of industry requires protectionism.
Now clearly the more industry there is in a country, the more urban proletariat also exists there, and without industry, the population will almost wholly consist of the peasantry, a class useless for revolution. Free trade must cripple the development of the proletariat as it cripples the development of bourgeois industry in any country less advanced industrially.
How then can Marx, at a time when England was far in advance in almost all industries, of all the other countries of Europe, argue for free trade, a move which would halt the development of the proletariat throughout the rest of Europe, as the capitalists of Europe were not slow to realise? Does Marx imagine the English proletariat alone can conquer the whole of Europe and the world? If so, does he then advocate all measures to speed their development (the English proletariat), which is, to speed the development of capitalism in England, by making the whole world the market of the English Bourgoisie?
Am I missing something?
I'm trying to reconcile Marx's position on Free Trade, definitvely expressed in his famous speech about the repeal of the corn laws, and the central tenet of marxism, which is that, the urban proletariat is the first and only class in history capable of overthrowing the ruling class and instituting majority rule.
Now as I understand it, Marx repeatedly and coherently regarded capitalism as progressive, insomuch as it gave birth to the first class of people capable of succesful revolution and capable of establishing socialism.
Next, although it is contrary to the teaching of the 'Austrian school of Economics' and others of their ilke, common sense tells us that, in order for a country to develop industry, it must not have to compete for it's own market with a foreign industry, long established and far advanced compared to the starting up domestic industry. This obvious fact is brilliantly expounded upon and driven home by the writings of for example, Friedrich List, 19th century German economist (whose writings are online), and more recently Ha Joon Chang. Therefore the development of industry requires protectionism.
Now clearly the more industry there is in a country, the more urban proletariat also exists there, and without industry, the population will almost wholly consist of the peasantry, a class useless for revolution. Free trade must cripple the development of the proletariat as it cripples the development of bourgeois industry in any country less advanced industrially.
How then can Marx, at a time when England was far in advance in almost all industries, of all the other countries of Europe, argue for free trade, a move which would halt the development of the proletariat throughout the rest of Europe, as the capitalists of Europe were not slow to realise? Does Marx imagine the English proletariat alone can conquer the whole of Europe and the world? If so, does he then advocate all measures to speed their development (the English proletariat), which is, to speed the development of capitalism in England, by making the whole world the market of the English Bourgoisie?
Am I missing something?