patriotism - why should anyone support our troops?

[Jaha]

i was thinking about the patriots supporting "our troops"

if i support the government, will it support me?
if i respect the government, will it respect me?
if i trust the government, will it trust me?
if i love the government, will it love me?

no, no, no, and no

but

if i hurt the government, will it hurt me?

yes. you could bet your life on it.

TO ALL THE BLIND PATRIOTS READING THIS, I SAY: SHAME ON YOU. A SHAME YOU ARE TO THE HUMAN RACE.

[Liberty Lover]

lay of the crack

[Liberty Lover]

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oops...off...OFF...OFF

[Pete]

You can edit your posts. It is one of the buttons (whatever) at the top.

[Liberty Lover]

Quote: from CrazyPete on 5:05 am on Mar. 23, 2003
You can edit your posts. It is one of the buttons (whatever) at the top.

You learn something new everyday.

[Tkinter1]

"TO ALL THE BLIND PATRIOTS READING THIS, I SAY: SHAME ON YOU. A SHAME YOU ARE TO THE HUMAN RACE."

Burn the heathans!

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from Liberty Lover on 11:09 pm on Mar. 22, 2003

Quote: from CrazyPete on 5:05 am on Mar. 23, 2003
You can edit your posts. It is one of the buttons (whatever) at the top.

You learn something new everyday.

Now say, "Thank you dirty commie" lol

[Liberty Lover]

Now say, "Thank you dirty commie" lol

...Never

[RedCeltic]

Personally I support the troops.


That's right... I support them.....


...... to come home! ;)


But seriously, unlike many of my comrades on this board and real life, I don't hate a person for doing their job. Even if that job is supporting imperialism. It is the officers and politicians that need to be strung up.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Jaha on 4:20 am on Mar. 23, 2003
i was thinking about the patriots supporting "our troops"

if i support the government, will it support me?
if i respect the government, will it respect me?
if i trust the government, will it trust me?
if i love the government, will it love me?

no, no, no, and no

but

if i hurt the government, will it hurt me?

yes. you could bet your life on it.

TO ALL THE BLIND PATRIOTS READING THIS, I SAY: SHAME ON YOU. A SHAME YOU ARE TO THE HUMAN RACE.


love and trust can not be received form any entity such as a "government, so you propose a false relationship

as for support and respect, I feel that I receive both from my government, thank you

[Anarcho]

While I am unsure if the mission over there is as clear cut as I would like, and I think that the end results are going to be a little (honestly, only a little) bit unsatisfactory to the Iraqi people, it has little to no bearing on my regards for the troops themselves.

Many of them are what the hard core Marxists here would consider the working class.

My brother is in Kuwait right now, driving a truck for freedom... heheheh.....

So while I don't have blanket approval of the actions the government has them doing, I support our troops because they are husbands and sons, wives and daughters of all of us.

[Liberty Lover]

as for support and respect, I feel that I receive both from my government, thank you

What?... are you part of the force CI?

[Subcomandante Marcos]

how can someone support people who are bossed arpund by a midless dictator in order to kill innocent irakies ??

its simple stupid to support war, aggression is a barbaric form of settleing thing and in order for the human race to evolve into something to be prud of war must be the first hing to eliminate, along with Bush

the minds oir militaries only think on killing whatever comes on their way and defending the ultra-nationalism

[Just Joe]

Quote: from RedCeltic on 5:19 am on Mar. 23, 2003
Personally I support the troops.


That's right... I support them.....


...... to come home! ;)


But seriously, unlike many of my comrades on this board and real life, I don't hate a person for doing their job. Even if that job is supporting imperialism. It is the officers and politicians that need to be strung up.


its the right view to have. many soldiers join because they have no other options in life; victims of capitalism. Socialists should not be anti-soldier, but anti-officer. a lot of the soldiers don't want to be there, but they cant refuse, or they'd be blacklisted from employment for life. they are not scabs, as redstar2000 called them. that my view on the soldiers in the Gulf, i think differently of those in the 6 counties.

and people who follow there troops blindly are not Patriots. patriotism is a love of your country, not your government. i love Ireland, but i don't even recognise the free state or the occupied northern governments.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Yes...I support the troops....when they SHOOT down their officer!

(Edited by CCCP at 2:06 pm on Mar. 23, 2003)

[Pete]

Quote: from CCCP on 9:05 am on Mar. 23, 2003
Yes...I support the troops....when they SHOOT down their officer!

(Edited by CCCP at 2:06 pm on Mar. 23, 2003)


Like Vietnam, or the Red Revolution, or the Indian Mutiny of 186?

[honest intellectual]

Quote: from CrazyPete on 5:05 am on Mar. 23, 2003
You can edit your posts. It is one of the buttons (whatever) at the top.
but that would have been less funny.

Patriotism isn't about supporting one's government, it's about supporting one's country

[Saint-Just]

One socialist view is that both forces are tools of the bourgeois ruling class. That the soldiers are misled and they will suffer not at the hands of the enemy but at the hands of the ruling class.

[kelvin90701]

If you do not support the troops, then do you support the idea of spitting on them when they get back?

They are there on orders. Regardless of thier politcal views, it is simply thier duty to obey. When they come back there will be a life time of nightmares, therapy, and healing to be done. I say SHAME on anyone who has any notions of spitting on a soldier.