10 Facts that Che-Haters Hate

[John Lenin]

10 FACTS THAT CHE-HATERS HATE


(1) Che was named one of the 100 most influential people of the 20th century by Time Magazine, and listed as a "Saint and Icon".

(2) Che's famous image entitled: "Guerrillero Heroico" has been declared the most famous and reproduced image in the world.

(3) Che Guevara is prayed to as "Saint Ernesto" in Bolivia and seen as an equal figure to Christ and the Virgin Mary by rural campesinos.

(4) In September of 2007, Che was voted "Argentina's greatest historical and political figure", and this Summer they erected a giant statue of him in Rosario.

(5) In Argentina schools are named after Che.

(6) In Cuba, Che is on the 3 dollar Peso, and school children begin every morning reciting "we will be like Che".

(7) Che oversaw the revolutionary tribunals of convicted War criminals from the U.$. Supported Batista dictatorship. These rapists, torturers, and goons ran Batista's dungeons and killed 20,000 people. Che simply reviewed the appeals of those sentenced to death. A decision supported by 93 % of Cubans at the time.

(8) Cuba under Batista was a Mafia ran casino and hooker haven for American tourists, where mostly US companies owned 75 % of the arable land. This is the context that Fidel and Che rose to power in.

(9) Che's radicalism was spawned from living in Guatemala during the 1953 overthrow of Jacobo Arbenz by the CIA at the behest of the United Fruit Co.

(10) Later, U.S. Imperialism would follow this practice up by overthrowing Mossadeq, Allende etc and propping up Brutal dictators like the Shah, Suharto, Marcos, Pinochet, and Saddam Hussien (Just like they did with Batista).



[1] http://www.time.com/time/time100/heroes/profile/guevara01.html

[2] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1352650.stm

[3] http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/23/theobserver.worldnews

[4] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7455196.stm

[5] http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSN1446436420080614?sp=true (http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSN1446436420080614?sp=true)

[6] http://www.pww.org/article/view/5880/1/234/

[7] http://www.socialistalternative.org/news/article20.php?id=640

[8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Revolution

[9] http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1141/is_19_35/ai_54176319

[10] http://www.apk2000.dk/netavisen/artikler/global_debat/2002-1126_us_imp _basic_stats.htm (http://www.apk2000.dk/netavisen/artikler/global_debat/2002-1126_us_imp%20_basic_stats.htm)

[John Lenin]

this Summer they erected a giant statue of him in Rosario.


Reuters Photo Gallery

http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/articleslideshow?articleId=USN1446436420080614&channelName=worldNews#a=1

[Pirate Utopian]

6 is kinda cultish dont you think?

[John Lenin]

6 is kinda cultish dont you think?
Not really.

Many countries start out by having their kids say a "pledge" in the morning. In Cuba they start out by stating that they would like to be like Che ... and I can't think of a better role model for a Cuban child, can you ?

[John Lenin]

(5) In Argentina


BBC Video Report

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7455257.stm

[Pirate Utopian]

Not really.

Many countries start out by having their kids say a "pledge" in the morning. In Cuba they start out by stating that they would like to be like Che ... and I can't think of a better role model for a Cuban child, can you ?
Maybe then pledges are together are cultish. I never had to pledge in school here in Holland.

[RedDawn]

(1) Che was named one of the 100 most influential people of the 20th century by Time Magazine, and listed as a "Saint and Icon".

(2) Che's famous image entitled: "Guerrillero Heroico" has been declared the most famous and reproduced image in the world.

(3) Che Guevara is prayed to as "Saint Ernesto" in Bolivia and seen as an equal figure to Christ and the Virgin Mary by rural campesinos.

(4) In September of 2007, Che was voted "Argentina's greatest historical and political figure", and this Summer they erected a giant statue of him in Rosario.

(5) In Argentina schools are named after Che.

(6) In Cuba, Che is on the 3 dollar Peso, and school children begin every morning reciting "we will be like Che". Mindless patronage means nothing. What matters are the principles Che stood for and Cuba and Argentina don't stand by those principles at all. Bolivia is slowly headed that way. We don't need hero worship, we need theoretical study and practical work.

Also, any Marxist worth their salt knows there's no such thing as saints.

[Dr Mindbender]

its a shame that none of these points are specifically complementitive to his theoretical validity.

[OI OI OI]

its a shame that none of these points are specifically complementitive to his theoretical validity.

Che had good intentions but no theoretical validity!

[CHE with an AK]

right-wingers hate reality ... and so they invent their own :)

[Jerolin]

Some pretty good points, but some of them are sort of bothersome. Cult of personality (#3,#6) is just as ridiculous and backwards as religion, in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong, although I'm ideologically different than Che, I do think he was an exceedingly interesting figure, and a valuable leftist that died all too early. I just don't like when individuals in a movement get sanctified or 'cultified'.

[Invincible Summer]

None of these really show any contributions he's made. It's more of a "See, he's popular nah-nah-nahnah-nah!!!" thing

[Barry Lyndon]

I doubt that Che-haters even know this stuff.

Also, argument from popularity is not really a good way to go. It doesn't prove anything. I mean, there are millions of people in the United States who still(incredibly!) admire Ronald Reagan. Does that make him a hero?

Don't get me wrong. Che Guevara is a hero for me. I just think that half these points are kind of weak.

[Ocean Seal]

#7 is an especially good point. Most capitalists state that Che was a murderer yet they do not remember that the United States participated in the Nuremberg trials sentencing many Nazi officials to their deaths. Here's a question. What's the difference between a German fascist and a Cuban fascist?
Answer: Absolutely Nothing

[Manifesto]

Reuters Photo Gallery

http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/articleslideshow?articleId=USN1446436420080614&channelName=worldNews#a=1



That link does not work.

[Joe Payne]

However, Che also sent anarchists, many of them from the unions that admirably fought for the Revolution in Cuba, to their deaths as well. For all the Batista thugs that were sent out, he also murdered the most revolutionary workers in Cuba at that time. Remember, Che was influenced by Mao's ideas of peasant armies fighting imperialism, not workers' militias battling Capital itself.

Him and Castro are responsible for the murder of revolutionary workers, no matter how much the Cuban State tries to jolly up his image.

[Revolutionair]

school children begin every morning reciting "we will be like Che".

That is some terrible brain washing to be honest. :(

[Dimentio]

Threads older than a year should be autolocked really.

[Nolan]

That is some terrible brain washing to be honest. :(

Totally bro. It's not like other countries worship political figures in schools.

[Nolan]

However, Che also sent anarchists, many of them from the unions that admirably fought for the Revolution in Cuba, to their deaths as well. For all the Batista thugs that were sent out, he also murdered the most revolutionary workers in Cuba at that time. Remember, Che was influenced by Mao's ideas of peasant armies fighting imperialism, not workers' militias battling Capital itself.

Him and Castro are responsible for the murder of revolutionary workers, no matter how much the Cuban State tries to jolly up his image.

You mean potential counterrevolutionaries who could have divided Cuba at a time most convenient for imperialists next door. There's a reason behind everything.

Don't act like anarchists were "the most revolutionary workers in Cuba" like everyone else was secretly in bed with capital.

That said, I don't think any anarchists should have been executed - after all it was Cuba that provided refuge to all kinds of left wing refugees and dissidents from Chile, Spain, etc.

Also I don't see why one can't fight capital and imperialism at the same time. Actually I don't see how they could be combated separately. Even the most reactionary of those fighting imperialism hurt capitals strength in some way.

[Burn A Flag]

Totally bro. It's not like other countries worship political figures in schools.


Seriously, in America there is a serious cult of personalilty. Americans like to deny it, but there are monuments to Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln in Washington D.C. Also, we have to say the pledge of alegiance every day in school, which forces us to say the USA is under a god. There is inherent bias when learning about the left. We learn about atrocities committed by leftists, but never by the USA. We also have former presidents on money.

Don't forget Mt. Rushmore either.