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OI OI OI
4th September 2008, 23:18
St. Paul Police Shut Down Concert, Continue Assault
5,000 Marching Against Poverty Met with Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets

Undeterred by a climate of heavy police repression and threats, over 5,000 protesters took to the streets of St. Paul to march against poverty on Sept. 2, the second day of the Republican National Convention. From the early morning until late into the night, thousands more took part in protest actions all over the city.


St. Paul police filled the streets with tear gas The "Poor people's march for our lives" marched through downtown St. Paul, past the Minnesota State Capitol and to the Xcel Center, site of the RNC. Made up of thousands of young people, the protest was militant and very multi-national. Vibrant chants of "Education, Not Occupation! Education, Not Incarceration!" echoed strongly throughout the march.

On day two, the police continued their intimidation tactics and brutality. Young people on bikes were targeted. The ANSWER delegation witnessed people being knocked off their bikes by police and arrested. Teams of bicycle cops systematically harassed, surrounded and questioned anyone who was walking to an anti-RNC event.

Police in riot gear shut down a permitted free concert at the State Capitol where thousands of people had gathered to listen to Rage Against the Machine. The police surrounded the band's trailer and informed them that they were being shut down on the grounds that their concert would "incite a riot."

Rage Against the Machine defied the order and played a short acoustic set.

In the evening, police fired large amounts of teargas, "anti-crowd" explosives and pepper spray at thousands of protesters who gathered outside the Xcel Center at the end of the big anti-poverty march. The Xcel Center is surrounded by eight foot fencing and heavily guarded at all times.

On Sept. 2, another 10 people were arrested. The broad assault on the protesters has been coordinated at the federal and local level and carried out by the FBI, ICE, the National Guard, state police, local police and the coast guard.

Showing clearly that the arrests are coordinated to intimidate protest of the RNC, local police have announced that they are planning to hold protesters until the end of the convention. Bragging openly about the police plan of repression, Ramsey County Sheriff Bob Fletcher said, "We know we have 200 of the biggest trouble makers in jail from Monday and they're not getting out for some time, so that's a big help."

At the time of this report the majority of the nearly 300 protesters who have been arrested during the RNC continue to be illegally jailed. Minnesota law requires arrestees to be released or officially charged within 36 hours after being arrested. Attorneys from the National Lawyers Guild and other law collective support teams are working to free all those detained during the protest.

Please take a moment and click this link to send a letter to Chris Coleman, the mayor of St. Paul, demanding that all protesters and social justice organizers be released, and that all charged be dropped. <http://www.pephost.org/site/R?i=VQBJSFowIccrw_V_26smaQ..> (http://www.pephost.org/site/R?i=VQBJSFowIccrw_V_26smaQ..) The real criminals are the "law enforcement" authorities, who have systematically violated the free speech rights of protesters, and in more than a few cases carried out physical abuse.

Protests are continuing over the next two days with a mass march and rally on Thursday set to coincide with John McCain's acceptance speech. The Minnesota Anti-war Committee is sponsoring the protest and the ANSWER Coalition along with many other local and national groups have endorsed the action.

Comrade B
5th September 2008, 02:30
Shit, did the police attack the concert too? I know a few people that went to that

bcbm
5th September 2008, 03:13
The police have attacked pretty much every demonstration that has occurred since day one. Actually, not "pretty much-" every one. They attacked the Poor People's March on day two, and the Rage show then. And the Rage show last night. And the Anti-War march today.

Sendo
5th September 2008, 03:18
What incentive is there for non-violent protest?

Any non-DN!, non-Indymedia news outlets will not mention anything about the RNC8, about the FBI raids.

The police are calling everyone a rioter. If you're gonna go to jail for violence you must as well get some violence in.

bcbm
5th September 2008, 05:50
What incentive is there for non-violent protest?

We need a diversity of tactics in the struggle against all of this shit in order to allow space for all kinds of people to voice their displeasure with the system and these actions.


Any non-DN!, non-Indymedia news outlets will not mention anything about the RNC8, about the FBI raids.

Several locals have mentioned the raids. We're in communication with them right now over some of the more recent fucked-up shit that has happened. We have some contacts in national media we can get in touch with as well and can hopefully milk that.

Psy
5th September 2008, 06:14
We need a diversity of tactics in the struggle against all of this shit in order to allow space for all kinds of people to voice their displeasure with the system and these actions.

In other words there is no mass support of the mass of workers to pull a Paris May 1968 when the police does this. There simply is not the numbers to push police back and to build barricades to keep them back. Lets not lie to ourselves, if we had the means to violently push the police back we would.

KurtFF8
5th September 2008, 06:41
What incentive is there for non-violent protest?

Any non-DN!, non-Indymedia news outlets will not mention anything about the RNC8, about the FBI raids.

The police are calling everyone a rioter. If you're gonna go to jail for violence you must as well get some violence in.

That's not true (and also they were the police raids aided by the FBI, not FBI raids). Also the AP has mentioned and covered the treatment of the protesters as I think about 3-4 AP photographers have been arrested at this point.

And the local media has covered the protests quite thoroughly.

It is quite ridiculous how everyone is "trying to riot and disturb the peace" though.

And I also can't believe that there's actually now an "RNC 8". It's almost like they're just taunting the left at this point.

bcbm
5th September 2008, 06:46
And I also can't believe that there's actually now an "RNC 8". It's almost like they're just taunting the left at this point.

They're targeting people from outside the RNC WC now. One person from Milwaukee has been charged with Conspiracy to Riot, and others have been threatened with it. I saw the affidavit today and its pretty absurd. One informant has been outed:
http://twincities.indymedia.org/2008/sep/suspicion-infiltrator-confirmed

Horse99
5th September 2008, 15:26
With McCains believable (for once) promise to shake things up in Washington by routing corruption, pork, earmarks, waste and social engineering, who are the "pigs" now? Democrats, mostly. Funny how things get turned upside down over time.

Psy
5th September 2008, 15:34
With McCains believable (for once) promise to shake things up in Washington by routing corruption, pork, earmarks, waste and social engineering, who are the "pigs" now? Democrats, mostly. Funny how things get turned upside down over time.
McCain won't change a thing. It matters not who runs the bourgeoisie state, it would still be a bourgeoisie regardless of who's gets elected, revolution is only path the change.

KurtFF8
5th September 2008, 16:22
With McCains believable (for once) promise to shake things up in Washington by routing corruption, pork, earmarks, waste and social engineering, who are the "pigs" now? Democrats, mostly. Funny how things get turned upside down over time.

So after one speech by McCain, you're a supporter now? Wow.

Anyway, these protests have been pretty important in exposing how police are increasingly getting more "ballsy" (although apparently some of the protesters are too). In a sense this reminds me of 1999 (Although probably not as much of a major even at 99).

GPDP
5th September 2008, 17:48
Guys, I think Horse is being sarcastic.

KurtFF8
5th September 2008, 18:22
Guys, I think Horse is being sarcastic.

I would hope so

Psy
5th September 2008, 19:37
Anyway, these protests have been pretty important in exposing how police are increasingly getting more "ballsy" (although apparently some of the protesters are too). In a sense this reminds me of 1999 (Although probably not as much of a major even at 99).

Protesters are getting more ballsy but not more militant. The police acted as bad as the Paris police did in May 1968 yet the America working class didn't come to aid of protesters by walking off their jobs and attack the rear lines of the riot police.

Faux Real
5th September 2008, 20:02
Any non-DN!, non-Indymedia news outlets will not mention anything about the RNC8, about the FBI raids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELeSPqIb44M - good footage from the AP. The comments there can be quite frustrating though.

KurtFF8
7th September 2008, 19:11
Protesters are getting more ballsy but not more militant. The police acted as bad as the Paris police did in May 1968 yet the America working class didn't come to aid of protesters by walking off their jobs and attack the rear lines of the riot police.

True, but at the same time, the St Paul protests were quite political and focused around a specific political parties policies. It's hard to gain popular action against something like that, where as if it were something like the WTO, it's much easier to have a popular uprising.

Sendo
8th September 2008, 02:49
The locals did pay good attention to the RNC, yes, and the AP mentions it. But the BIG national TV networks only just started talking about and only b/c of pressure from other news media and various contacts and pleas from the outside. If left to themselves MSNBC/CNN/Fox News wouldn't have mentioned the Patriot Act or given the anarchists press time to explain their views.

bayano
8th September 2008, 21:28
True, but at the same time, the St Paul protests were quite political and focused around a specific political parties policies. It's hard to gain popular action against something like that, where as if it were something like the WTO, it's much easier to have a popular uprising.

while i wish we could coalesce better as workers and activists around things that werent specifically partisan Republican, you're just plain wrong. at the very least look at the RNC in nyc. unions came out (tho they couldve done it bigger) and workers joined in big numbers in or out of unions.

on a funny (to me) note, during the RNC they tried to play as a surprise at a free protest concert at the state capitol. the riot police moved in and prevented that. as the band members left in their shaded window suvs, the poor peoples march happened to intercept them at a street corner. a few ran to see who the celebrities were, but a big number then start shouting against celebrities, flipping off the SUVs and even chucking rocks. im sure some of those who did that were in part radicalized by rage. i just stood there laughing

KurtFF8
8th September 2008, 23:55
Well I wasn't aware of that. All media accounts of protests at the conventions seems to say otherwise (then again I'm not talking about any type of in-depth analysis of the protests)

bayano
9th September 2008, 20:12
it was true this time. there was supposedly a teamster/trucker rally tuesday, and a marxist-led teamster local from chicago brought a bunch of folks up that monday, but the unions, twin cities and national, pretty much ignored, or even sabotaged, the convention protests. pretty sick. no major unions came out big, and many locals went out of town for the week.