UN's Real Intent=

[Michael2]

I seen from several sources online that the UN wants to the one or more of the following:



Make a one global governmnet (see
Spread Communism
Spread Democracy
Be the WMD gestapo
Spread world peace
End hunger

So what is it?

[#FF0000]

Ever hear of a cartel?

Same general principle. ;)

[Winter]

I seen from several sources online that the UN wants to the one or more of the following:



Make a one global governmnet (see
Spread Communism
Spread Democracy
Be the WMD gestapo
Spread world peace
End hunger
So what is it?

The first two are preached by right-wingers, especially Ron Paul supporters. Apparently, they are afraid of the U.S. losing it's sovereignity, and naturally blame the commies. I mean, after all, commies want borderless countries.

As for the true intent of the U.N.? Probably something along the lines of bourgeois reactionaries of the world teaming up to make sure they stay in power.

[Charles Xavier]

The UN is something all real communists should be supporting its the base for enforcing International Law. At times of weakness the UN is used as a tool of the Imperialists but this is not the norm and a violation of the principles of the UN. The problem of the UN is that the general assembly has less power than the security council. Everything the General Assembly passes is not enforced.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

The UN is something all real communists should be supporting its the base for enforcing International Law.

A law which most members don't give a fuck about. If it makes money they will do it. Sod human rights if it makes a profit it damn well happens.




At times of weakness the UN is used as a tool of the Imperialists

It is a tool of the imperlists.



but this is not the norm and a violation of the principles of the UN.

Fuck its principles what really happens is what i care more about.




The problem of the UN is that the general assembly

The vast vast vast majority (if not all) the countrys in the General assembly are run by tossers. They will vote for tossy things which helps them not the proles. "The working class has not country" reamber that?




has less power than the security council. Everything the General Assembly passes is not enforced.

Well duh why would the top countrys give a fuck about a little one outside of profit. That said the little countrys are run by tossers aswell.

[Charles Xavier]

I think we should help Comrade Joe lead a country, he doesn't sound like a tosser. He sounds mature and well thought out.:rolleyes:

I love his ideas of "fuck everything"

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

I think we should help Comrade Joe lead a country, he doesn't sound like a tosser. He sounds mature and well thought out.:rolleyes:

I love his ideas of "fuck everything"

I dont want to lead a country.

You fail.

Also attacking the arugment not the work fuck.

[Charles Xavier]

The problem of the UN is now nothing is enforced.

The basis for international law is important, the UN has helped the world avoid a world war in the last 60 years.

The UN is important, but what would you suggest? Disband the UN, disband international Law?

I think its useless to criticize unless you can provide a solution.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

The problem of the UN is now nothing is enforced.

No alot of it is enforced. If rich countries can afford to not listen to the UN.


The basis for international law is important, the UN has helped the world avoid a world war in the last 60 years.

Or was that the unprofitablility of being blown up?


The UN is important, but what would you suggest? Disband the UN, disband international Law?

I think the very idea of international law is naught more then a PR stunt.


I think its useless to criticize unless you can provide a solution.

Hang them.

[Demogorgon]

It is there to try and provide a conflict resolution system that prevents countries going to war. No need to come up with conspiracy theories.

Other stuff connected to the UN like some of the international finance systems are not so nice, but no need to invent anything.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

It is there to try and provide a conflict resolution system that prevents countries going to war. No need to come up with conspiracy theories.

Of course its stopped wars before. But could ordaniry international pressure alone not have done that?

[Charles Xavier]

Of course its stopped wars before. But could ordaniry international pressure alone not have done that?

the UN is organized International pressure.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

the UN is organized International pressure.

Big countries dont care if little countries say "dont do that". Big countries only care if a more powerful or a combination of powerful countrys say that. That dont need th UN.

[Charles Xavier]

Big countries dont care if little countries say "dont do that". Big countries only care if a more powerful or a combination of powerful countrys say that. That dont need th UN.

Thats because for the last 20 years there was a unipolar world.

[Sam_b]

The UN is something all real communists should be supporting its the base for enforcing International Law.

Why should we be supporting an imperialist institution at all?


the UN has helped the world avoid a world war in the last 60 years

But its been fine when brutal proxy wars have been carried out in Korea, Vietnam; as well as US intervention in Chile, Nicaragua....


but what would you suggest? Disband the UN, disband international Law?

Yes. International law has had little to no use when it comes to holding imperialism to account.

[GPDP]

The biggest problem with the UN, I think, is that it is rarely effective at enforcing its resolutions against powerful countries, especially the US. If we don't like a resolution, tough shit, it doesn't get enforced. The rest of the world could get (and has gotten) together in support of a resolution, but as ol' Chomsky likes to say, it is ultimately what we say that goes. Any resolution not backed by the US is doomed to failure.

[Lynx]

The concept of national sovereignty is too strongly embraced for the UN to be made effective. The Earth remains a patchwork of fiefdoms with their respective elites clinging to power and privilege as they always have. If you want an effective UN, the status quo must first be swept aside.