Good for a laugh. - Larissa

[Old Friend]

On the lighter side, I was browsing in "politics" when I found this little gem. I thought I would bring it over here, so me and my compatriots could poke fun. HaaaaHaaaaa (Courtesy of the Simpsons)!

"I hate the CIA, I hate the US "Intelligence" (if it can be called intelligent) ...and above all, I HATE THE FUCKING LATIN AMERICAN CRYING LITTLE GIRLS who beg the US to intervene in their internal political affaris!!! It pisses me off so much!!!

Sorry, I'm working under pressure...since we have no shit-chat forum anymore, I'm expressing my shit anger here.

Have a nice day, and never quit struggling. Like Che said, "son los más". (they - the oppressed - are the majority)... let's realize WE are the "más"."

[Old Friend]

Che said, "son los más". (they - the oppressed - are the majority)... let's realize WE are the "más"."

I guess I'll get this started off by saying that Che was a real son of a *****, and his grave is one of the few graves that I would actually piss on. *Others being Stalin, Mao, Trotsky, Lenin, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Min, Castro, Mugabe (when he dies, hopefully soon), and most notably Hugo Chavez (I'm sure the intelligence community will expedite his timely death).

[Hampton]

Pointless.

[Invader Zim]

WOW Flamming a new level of shit headedness for you Norman

[Zombie]

Che was a real son of a *****, and his grave is one of the few graves that I would actually piss on.

I'll be pissin' on urs too, lamer

[peaccenicked]

SN's puerile nonsense reaches the dizzy depths of his scumpit stomache.

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from peaccenicked on 5:37 pm on Mar. 14, 2003
SN's puerile nonsense reaches the dizzy depths of his scumpit stomache.

Yes thats a far better description of his new lows than i made earlier. Perhaps this diserves a place in the Commi club under, Re-Ban perhaps. No thats a little harsh. I think just delete would be better.

(Edited by AK47 at 5:40 pm on Mar. 14, 2003)

[American Kid]

I must say that both combatants' arguments were peculiarly well-put and amusing in their own way.

Naturally, one being more funny than the other.

-AK

[RedCeltic]

Stormin Norman is all flash and not gusto. You can go piss on anthing your heart desires.. hell your hero in the white house is pissing on the Constitution, I'm sure that makes you proud.

But while he's busy taking away civil liberties and winning victories against woman's rights in America... you're talking about pissing on graves.

Who does that help? Nobody. It doesn't even make any changes Good/bad or right/left... so go ahead... knock yourself out and piss on whatever you want.

The rest of us will be effectively pushing for change via direct action.

In short: Up your's.

[Guardia Bolivariano]

Hey Norm ,Retarded-Bastards.com needs a new moderator and only you fit the requirements;)

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from Guardia Bolivariano on 2:03 pm on Mar. 14, 2003
Hey Norm ,Retarded-Bastards.com needs a new moderator and only you fit the requirements;)

lol... good one. :)

[Larissa]

Well, I guess our dear "Old friend" has shown once more how "respectfull" he is towards other people. I only wonder why he insists on being banned again and again, maybe to sign up with a different name and access the forums he is not allowed to?

Anyway, he is very much interested in this website. I believe he is such a moron he must have been already banned from a (LOL!!) "Retard-bastartds.com" forum due to his brainless comments.

I think he got upset when I said that if Bush were a chimpanzee it would be an offense for chimpanzees.

:wink:



(Edited by Larissa at 7:37 pm on Mar. 14, 2003)

[DEFMARX]

I'm really shocked that "old Friend" so blatantly ignorant. Is he joking? This must be some sort of prank or something. I have a hard time accepting the fact that one person can be so....I'm literally speachless. I cannot even put the feelings I have toward him into words.

Lets put it this way "Old Friend", if the revolution comes anytime soon, I'll kill you FIRST!

[Felicia]

Quote: from Guardia Bolivariano on 4:03 pm on Mar. 14, 2003
Hey Norm ,Retarded-Bastards.com needs a new moderator and only you fit the requirements;)

hahahaha......I guess you're feeling better ;)

[canikickit]

Poor Norm is being oppressed. Silly fucker.

[Guardia Bolivariano]

Quote: from DEFMARX on 10:45 pm on Mar. 14, 2003
Lets put it this way "Old Friend", if the revolution comes anytime soon, I'll kill you FIRST!


No. First you piss on him and then you kill him.

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from Guardia Bolivariano on 6:16 pm on Mar. 14, 2003

Quote: from DEFMARX on 10:45 pm on Mar. 14, 2003
Lets put it this way "Old Friend", if the revolution comes anytime soon, I'll kill you FIRST!




No. First you piss on him and then you kill him.

Than you piss on his grave. ;)

[Commie Bitch Slapper]

It seems to me that Old Friend makes a decent point. Larissa's criticism of the intelligence community was rather childish. Can you blaim him for pointing it out? What I find to be most telling is your overwhelming disgust with Old Friend, while you totally ignore the atrocities commited by the people whose graves he claimed he would piss on.

Take Pol Pot, he killed upwards off 1,000,000 people, while he led the communist Khmer Rouge government from1975-1979. Yale University is still trying to document one of the worst atrocities of the Twentieth Century. If you would like to get an idea, check outTime.com's photo essay (http://www.time.com/time/daily/polpot/1.html), or check out this CNN profile of Pol Pot (http://www.cnn.com/resources/newsmakers/world/asia/pol.html).

I mean, come on! Let's cut Old Friend a break here. He was merely pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of someone who attacks the U.S. intelligence community, while defending communist ideals. Perhaps he was trying to do it in a silly manner, but I think the crimes of those he would pee on speak for themselves.

Besides, I have read some of his other work. The jovial criticisms of other's ideas are far outwieghed by the thought provocking posts he routinely submits. Come on. This use of the ban is pathetic, and tells me that you have been lying in wait for him to slip up, so you can relieve yourselves of the daunting task of having to answer to him. Are your convictions that weak that you can not handle opposition?

If you don't like Old Friend's criticism of Marx, perhaps you would rather hear it from a man who was basically banished from the Communist Party for detailing the many crimes of Stalin during a secret session of the 20th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. Nikita S. Krushchev, First Secretary of the Communist Party wrote "Crimes of the Stalin Era" (http://www.trussel.com/hf/stalin.htm). He is primarily responsible for blowing the lid off of the atrocities commited by Stalin, during his reign of terror. For his honesty and bravery he was ousted from his position, rather than killed. Things had changed in Soviet Russia, as speaking out against the party like this would normally get you an earlier retirement in the form of a dirt nap. Could the party engage in the kind of politicide Stalin was famous for, with respect to Krushchev, or would that further expose the truth behind the position he was taking, and undermine the legitimacy of the Communist Party government?

To provide some indication as to why Old Friend would piss on Stalins Grave, one only need to look at this:

"In 1989 the KGB set the death toll in Stalin's 26-year reign of terror (1927-53) at 36 million. But that figure included only the victims of Stalin's liquidation's of individuals and groups. Serious research began stepping up with Gorbachev's policy of glasnost. Norman Davis, in his celebrated History of Europe suggested a figure of 54 million. The University of Moscow, in association with the University of Madrid, put the figure at 57 million."-from Federal Observer (http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=1364)

As for Trotsky, he was one of the key organizers of the Red Terror that swept over Russia during the Bolshevik Revolution. During the revolution, the Bolsheviks often mutilated the bodies of those who were killed for oppossing the revolution. They were some of the first to perfect the use of terrorism to achieve political ends. Having said this, it is easy to understand why Old Friend hates the likes of Trotsky and Lenin.

The others on his list are quite obvious. I would suggest lifting the ban on him so we can all hear him defend his stance on this issue. This was obvoiusly a ploy to initiate a heated debate over communism's most notorious leaders, and compare their use of intelligence agencies to the United States equivalent, or lack thereof. I would like to see him defend himself before you guys rush to ban him, once again. Its pretty pathetic that you rushed to ban him without offering him the chance to defend his statements.

Lift the ban, and let's see what this proveyor of truth has to say for himself. Aren't you the slightest bit curious? Hasn't he provided you with hours of entertainment? Doesn't he challenge you to think? Why do you hate him so much that you find it necessary to ban him every other day? Isn't the idea of the forum to discuss ideas, and ridicule those ideas that do not hold up to thoughtful debate? You communists are too quick to rid yourselve's of the challenge that opposition presents, and this characteristic is one of the key reasons why millions were killed by Stalin, Trotsky, Lenin, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Mihn, Castro, and Mugabe. Let's hear what Old Friend has to say about these fuckers, and not quash the debate before it even gets its start.

[peaccenicked]

There is no debate genocide has nothing to do wih communism , So fuck off

[Commie Bitch Slapper]

There is no debate genocide has nothing to do wih communism.

You sound a holocaust denier.

[peaccenicked]

What I am saying is that Stalinism has nothing to do with communism. Have nt you listened to anything.

[Commie Bitch Slapper]

What I am saying is that Stalinism has nothing to do with communism. Have nt you listened to anything.

And I'm telling you that you know better, and are trying to perpetrate the next great lie. Don't feed me your bullshit, for I am not buying it.

[peaccenicked]

Well. You spend a lot time with people you think are extremely dishonest. Perhaps you should take my advice in ''Denying Freedom"

[Commie Bitch Slapper]

You should remove the ban on Old Friend. He did nothing more than try to spur a debate. By banning him while he was absent you prove what a bunch of cowards you truly are. You should have allowed him to answer for his remarks before killing off another prominent member of this board. Why don't you fucking wimps just get rid of the opposition forum altogether, if you are going to ban people for no god damn reason. I am sure his banning has something to do with the arrival of Commie ***** Slapper. Maybe you could let me get back to being your old friend Stormin Norman, and accept me for who I am. For all the whining about denying the anti-war protestors their freedom to demonstrate, you guys sure are quick to rid the oppossing views forum of any oppossing views. I have never seen bigger wussies in my life.

(Edited by Commie ***** Slapper at 2:24 pm on Mar. 15, 2003)

[peaccenicked]

I was not a part of any the decisions to ban you.
Nor did I protest, so I can accept responsibility to a degree.
As far as I can see both SN and OF were banned for extremely bad behaviour. There was a lot of tolerance for both name. One only need look at the post count.
You cannot see your own offensive behaviour, look at your defence of your name. How is any women to know that you are not meaning to demean woman?

[Commie Bitch Slapper]

I can call you a ***** and not offend any women. One must put it in context. Here's a good solution. Give me back my old name and Commie ***** Slapper disappears.

[Pete]

***** means female dog.

"You sound a holocaust denier. "

You sound a professional bullshiter. That statement has nothing to do with anything. Shut the fuck up norman. America is not the sugar wonderland you think it is.

[canikickit]

Poor Norm is being oppressed. So sad. Why spend time in a forum where your intent is to annoy?

[American Kid]

I'm gonna paraphrase Peter Fonda at the end of Easy Rider here, Norm:

You blew it

From what I've read, the "Stormin"-incarnation-banning might have been warranted. But I'll be honest, I think the lastest banning of Old Friend is lame. I'll think of better ways to put it when I sober up. But I think it was sentimental at it's core. What better punishment for he who would fuck with the "comma momma."

Before anyone goes banning me, me and Larissa are on quite nice terms. We have a connection concerning a certain New England town I can't remember at the moment on account of alchohol.

thanks.

But seriously, Norm, you had a good thing going. Bring it down a notch. blah blah blah . Fuck me. Fuck you.

lol
-ak

[American Kid]

But what do I know? I'm just a dirty leftist sympathizer.

I hear 50 Cent. Seriously....from down the hall.

I'm gonna go drink Bacardi like it's "My birthday."

-50 Cent's homeslice

[Larissa]

I love you American Kid. Happy Birthday! :smile: I think it was Framingham, wasn't it?

[American Kid]

No I love you.

And yes, now that you remind me, it was Framingham. I was out of control last night. Apologies. :)

My head hurts.

-AK

[mentalbunny]

So you had a good time then? Good to hear it!

[Guest1]

hahaha, norm is banned, and he can't cry "oppression!" this time :)

To norm, who is inevitably coming back to read this: I don't consider saying your gonna piss on someone's grave political opposition, I consider it the ramblings of a six year old tainted by his parents' closed mindedness.

"haha, you're a commie! my dad told me we should piss on every commie's grave!"

[Anonymous]

pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge ARE NOT stalinists..
nor socialists or communists in any way...

"Pol Pot (Born Saloth Sar 1925) was first exposed to communist ideals when he lived and studied in France which inspired him to draft a programme of economic and social equalities for the Cambodian peoples. In 1953 Pol Pot returned to Cambodia with his ambitions to establish 'an equal Cambodia'. He held a job as a teacher where he often spoke to his students of a better and more equally just future, motivating many of them for his cause. It was not hard for the common Cambodian peasant to recognized the widespread corruption and elitism by the Royal Sihanou regime which rules over Cambodia and the situation only became worse as the Vietnam war spilled over into Cambodia. Pol Pot spoke out against the Sihanou regime freaquent and effectively which eventually developed into a large and powerful grassroots movement. Cambodia, by 1975 was completely devistated, first by a corrupt and elitist royal regime, and then a war in which they didnt want any part in and now the peoples war of the Khmer Rouge seemed to be the only hope for salvation. The Khmer Rouge was the government of the people and by the people and would deliver to the people the fruits in which they have been deprived, so they thought.

The principles of Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge were based around the demand for a complete and immidiate classless society by displacing all classes and city dwellers into the rural peasantry. The Khmer Rouge defied Marxism in just about every aspect as they denied the people universal progress and instead enforced universal oppression. The Rouge declared that anyone and anything that was not a rural peasant was an enemy of the people; this included, doctors, teachers, technicians, journalists and even people who wore glasses and read books; these people became the focus of the ever famous 'killing fields'. Within a short period of 3 years the Khmer Rouge successfully crushed any potential threat within the confines of their territory.

The Khmer Rouge sealed its fate in 1977 however when they launched an attack on a Vietnamese village. The Vietnamese responded by establishing rebel armies within Cambodia in conjuction with vietnamese forces and by 1979 the Khmer Rouge was driven from Phnom Penh and confined to the northwest corner of Cambodia. The Vietnamese and the Cambodian civilian army remained in conflict with the Khmer Rouge until 1989 when Vietnam withdrew its forces from Cambodia.

The Vietnamese uncovered in their invasion of Cambodia the exact nature of the Khmer Rouge and publicized all the evidence and even though the atrocities became public knowledge, the Khmer Rouge retained most of its supporters. During the exile years of the Khmer Rouge they functioned mainly as a rebel army within sovereign Cambodia and even after the Vietnamese withdrew they had no position, none the less they held out until the death of Pol Pot in 1998.

The result of the Khmer Rouge is a direct result of opportunst distorted revisions that crippled an ideology into a self serving prostitution. In no instance did the Rouge apply Marxist principles to the communist bumper sticker in which they tagged onto their mission statement. The historical experiences of Cambodia demonstrate to us all the more reason why we must maintain ever so vigilant in obstructing the next 'Saloth Sar' to rising to power. "

http://www.sovietrevolution.com/asia.html

[Ghost Writer]

pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge ARE NOT stalinists..
nor socialists or communists in any way...

You're wrong.

[Larissa]

Quote: from American Kid on 2:20 pm on Mar. 16, 2003
No I love you.

And yes, now that you remind me, it was Framingham. I was out of control last night. Apologies. :)

My head hurts.

-AK
:wink: no need to apologize, hope your head's ok now!

[DisruptiveBehaviour]

To SN (A.K.A. OF AKA CBS):

I know you are going to be reading this under some other name , So I would just like to say , thank god you have been banned. We, (the general left at Che-Lives) , well most of us, did, will, and continue to hate you. Although, contrary to your whining it is not that we hate you because you are a cappie, or because your american, we hate you because , unlike some posts as SN you seem to have been cursed with torettes because you have to refer to 'fuck you', 'fuck che' , 'commies suck' , 'your a stupid bullshitter' in EVERY post . I know that myself and many others do like to debate with cappies, but not when it comes to a point where it is a perpetual screaming match every time you and a leftist meet. This is why AK is accepted, while you are banned, three times over. So , unless you've gained another mental disabillity:

Stop the Insults or STFU!

[Anonymous]

You're wrong.
care to elaborate? or youl just stick with the average capitalist reply and hope someone magicly believes i am wrong because you said so?